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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 18, 2017 16:53:59 GMT
The MCU head also confirms Spider-Man will appear in 'Avengers 4' and the studio will return to Comic-Con this July. If Monday was a comic book, it would have had “Special Collector’s Item” written all over it. In a rare move, and with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2's opening just a few weeks out, Marvel Studios opened the doors of its headquarters, located on the Walt Disney Studios lot in Burbank, Calif., offering a peek inside its movie making process. Designs of characters and worlds were glimpsed (Thanos!), dailies were shown (Black Panther!), directors such as Thor: Ragnarok’s Taika Waititi and Ant-Man’s Peyton Reed shared thoughts on their process. And Marvel head Kevin Feige sat for a small group to talk on a wide-range of topics, while also confirming the studio will return to San Diego Comic-Con this year. Here’s what Heat Vision learned from Feige:
... Feige has no plans for an R-rated movie.
Don’t look for an R rated Marvel movie in wake of success of such bloody and potty-mouthed movies such as Logan and Deadpool any time soon. “My takeaway from both of those films is not the R rating, it’s the risk they took, the chances they took, the creative boundaries that they pushed,” Feige explained. “That should be the takeaway for everyone.” While the R-rating is an easy-identifiable trait of those movies, Feige cited the breaking of the fourth wall in Deadpool and the finality of the Wolverine story as examples of what made those movies stand out. ... And you thought it was going to be just another Tuesday - Woot!
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 19, 2017 2:44:31 GMT
Dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 2:48:16 GMT
Thank goodness Feige has the sense to know what people truly liked about those films and what worked about them, instead of just seeing the rating and their successes and saying, "WE NEED EVERY MARVEL FILM TO BE LIKE THAT! STAT!"
Now here will come the troll brigade to make a mountain out of this molehill.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 4:03:34 GMT
Thank goodness Feige has the sense to know what people truly liked about those films and what worked about them, instead of just seeing the rating and their successes and saying, "WE NEED EVERY MARVEL FILM TO BE LIKE THAT! STAT!" Now here will come the troll brigade to make a mountain out of this molehill. Actually, no one seems to care about Kevin's boyish devil-may-care smile and shrewd observations. He is the reason the Marvel machine works as well as it does. I'm sure he's swimming in olympic-sized pools full of cash but, has Hollywood truly recognized this individual for the visionary producer that he is? He's only spearheaded the most successful franchise in movie history. j/s SaveSave
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Post by politicidal on Apr 19, 2017 4:16:23 GMT
Good.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 19, 2017 8:51:54 GMT
I certainly didn't like Deadpool and Logan just because they're rated. I like them because they're good movies. The R-rating certainly didn't hurt them
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Post by charzhino on Apr 19, 2017 12:17:18 GMT
Because he doesn't want to lose his majority kid audience.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 13:03:06 GMT
He's the man in charge of the studio. So yeah, but he still has his bosses. One day he will step down by choice or force. Either way it will be sad to see him go. But hoefully whoever takes over will have his/her own clrar vision but will also be open to the variety of content and vernaculars that can be found in the comics. I love the MCU but they are limiting themselves to the formula they've used so far. Not a bad thing, obviously since it's worked so well. But times change and the product will have to change along with it eventually.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 13:03:10 GMT
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 14:39:30 GMT
“My takeaway from both of those films is not the R rating, it’s the risk they took, the chances they took, the creative boundaries that they pushed,” Feige explained. “That should be the takeaway for everyone.” The irony of this quote is that Doctor Strange, the most recent MCU movie we have seen so far, has made as few risks as possible (stunning visuals or a superhero with "magic" do not count as risks, narratively and formally). I would say that the rating is nothing but a distractor in this kind of debates when creativity is not even on Marvel/Disney's priority list. Here's a little more iron for the debate - the MCU itself was conceived as a bet-the-company risk. SaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by Lee on Apr 19, 2017 15:21:12 GMT
As long they keep the Netflix Series, i don't care about the movies.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 16:04:04 GMT
As long they keep the Netflix Series, i don't care about the movies. As fair as that is, I don't think it's likely. The movies may be a necessary evil for you, Neo. SaveSave
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Post by Lee on Apr 19, 2017 16:17:54 GMT
Not really. The movies give me simoly nothing, one exception is The Winter Soldier, and maybe Black Panther.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 16:55:42 GMT
“My takeaway from both of those films is not the R rating, it’s the risk they took, the chances they took, the creative boundaries that they pushed,” Feige explained. “That should be the takeaway for everyone.” The irony of this quote is that Doctor Strange, the most recent MCU movie we have seen so far, has made as few risks as possible (stunning visuals or a superhero with "magic" do not count as risks, narratively and formally). I would say that the rating is nothing but a distractor in this kind of debates when creativity is not even on Marvel/Disney's priority list. You are such a hypocrite. You demonize Disney/Marvel as being uncreative, yet have the gall to think other companies, which are also only out to make money, are any different? Go to hell.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 17:57:52 GMT
The irony of this quote is that Doctor Strange, the most recent MCU movie we have seen so far, has made as few risks as possible (stunning visuals or a superhero with "magic" do not count as risks, narratively and formally). I would say that the rating is nothing but a distractor in this kind of debates when creativity is not even on Marvel/Disney's priority list. You are such a hypocrite. You demonize Disney/Marvel as being uncreative, yet have the gall to think other companies, which are also only out to make money, are any different? Go to hell. It's normal to want to see something as big and successful as the MCU fail. We're all wired that way on a subconscious level. For some, Marvel Studios and the MCU must seem to have sprung up overnight like an alien weed spewing out brainwashing pheromones. I understand MCU hatred even if I don't agree or can't sympathize. It's the bizarre and arbitrary rationalizations that throw me off.
If you dislike what they do it would be more honest to say, I just don't like it rather than concoct unprovable, circuitous arguments.
Saying that Marvel takes no risks is just being willfully disingenuous. The goal is to create a good product. Taking risks doesn't always or often lead you there. Risk has been fetishized as the single aspect that makes any creative endeavor successful. For some reason, we all need to break away from what's come before all the time. The only reason to take a risk is if you believe it will serve your art. Risk for risk's sake should not be a thing.
If some of Marvel's offerings have been sanitized to build capital, I can understand that on a business level so long as they reinvest in bigger films like Infinity War.SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 18:55:56 GMT
You are such a hypocrite. You demonize Disney/Marvel as being uncreative, yet have the gall to think other companies, which are also only out to make money, are any different? Go to hell. It's normal to want to see something as big and successful as the MCU fail. We're all wired that way on a subconscious level. For some, Marvel Studios and the MCU must seem to have sprung up overnight like an alien weed spewing out brainwashing pheromones. I understand MCU hatred even if I don't agree or can't sympathize. It's the bizarre and arbitrary rationalizations that throw me off.
If you dislike what they do it would be more honest to say, I just don't like it rather than concoct unprovable, circuitous arguments.
Saying that Marvel takes no risks is just being willfully disingenuous. The goal is to create a good product. Taking risks doesn't always or often lead you there. Risk has been fetishized as the single aspect that makes any creative endeavor successful. For some reason, we all need to break away from what's come before all the time. The only reason to take a risk is if you believe it will serve your art. Risk for risk's sake should not be a thing.
If some of Marvel's offerings have been sanitized to build capital, I can understand that on a business level so long as they reinvest in bigger films like Infinity War.SaveSaveYou're right, of course. These people just get on my nerves, and the fact that they just can't be honest to just say, "Marvel doesn't tickle my fancy, and I don't get the appeal," is all the more infuriating.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 23, 2017 13:26:51 GMT
Not really. The movies give me simoly nothing, one exception is The Winter Soldier, and maybe Black Panther. If you're into that sell-out, bankrupt "grounded" approach instead of something that embraces comic books.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 23, 2017 13:27:28 GMT
Because he doesn't want to lose his majority kid audience. I seriously doubt having a Spider-Man movie where he and MJ randomly have anal would improve on the story.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 23, 2017 14:32:46 GMT
Here’s what Heat Vision learned from Feige:
... Feige has no plans for an R-rated movie.
Don’t look for an R rated Marvel movie in wake of success of such bloody and potty-mouthed movies such as Logan and Deadpool any time soon. “My takeaway from both of those films is not the R rating, it’s the risk they took, the chances they took, the creative boundaries that they pushed,” Feige explained. “That should be the takeaway for everyone.” While the R-rating is an easy-identifiable trait of those movies, Feige cited the breaking of the fourth wall in Deadpool and the finality of the Wolverine story as examples of what made those movies stand out. ... I've been saying this since Deadpool came out and Logan was announced as being rated R. The reason that Deadpool is the best X-men movie is not because of the R rating. It's because they understand the character. That movie could have been PG-13 and it would have been good because they would have still made a Deadpool movie with the love of people that know Deadpool. Apocalypse was made by people that wanted to make an X-men movie as if it was in the MCU, but still in the Fox universe. They really didn't care for the characters other than Magneto. The movie was bits and pieces of other X-men movies that it was boring. Let's restart the timeline just to give you the same things from before. If they made Apocalypse R rated the movie would still be middling crap.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 18:28:32 GMT
Here’s what Heat Vision learned from Feige:
... Feige has no plans for an R-rated movie.
Don’t look for an R rated Marvel movie in wake of success of such bloody and potty-mouthed movies such as Logan and Deadpool any time soon. “My takeaway from both of those films is not the R rating, it’s the risk they took, the chances they took, the creative boundaries that they pushed,” Feige explained. “That should be the takeaway for everyone.” While the R-rating is an easy-identifiable trait of those movies, Feige cited the breaking of the fourth wall in Deadpool and the finality of the Wolverine story as examples of what made those movies stand out. ... I've been saying this since Deadpool came out and Logan was announced as being rated R. The reason that Deadpool is the best X-men movie is not because of the R rating. It's because they understand the character. That movie could have been PG-13 and it would have been good because they would have still made a Deadpool movie with the love of people that know Deadpool. Apocalypse was made by people that wanted to make an X-men movie as if it was in the MCU, but still in the Fox universe. They really didn't care for the characters other than Magneto. The movie was bits and pieces of other X-men movies that it was boring. Let's restart the timeline just to give you the same things from before. If they made Apocalypse R rated the movie would still be middling crap. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASP! Someone just said something negative about the X-Men films and precious R-rating! Crucify the blasphemer!
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