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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
I feel as if "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" is unfairly lumped into the dreaded "Prequel Trilogy" and it's not fair.
I love how Anakin puts on the mask at the very end of Episode III as opposed to how Darth Vader takes off the mask at the end of Episode VI. The only thing it's missing is a Force Ghost scene with Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi Wan. That would have been perfect, as opposed to Yoda saying Obi Wan can correspond with Qui-Gon alluding to the force ghost.
I believe Revenge of the Sith is more creative, innovative, higher stakes and lower depths of darkness than The Force Awakens. The more I watch TFA, the more unbearable it holds up. The unmasking of Kylo Ren was terrible. He went from sort of menacing to an emo douche. The acting was terrible, and people talk about the prequel acting.
People loved it because it featured the OG cast members and it was a beat for beat remake of "A New Hope", so it was essentially a nostalgia trip. However, Revenge of the Sith paved the story and universe forward, I feel TFA took it backward.
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. Return of the Jedi
5. The Force Awakens
6. The Phantom Menace
7. The Attack of the Clones
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Post by miike80 on Mar 15, 2017 15:18:36 GMT
The unmasking of Kylo Ren was terrible. He went from sort of menacing to an emo douche. He already was undermined 5 minutes into the movie, the moment Poe Dameron delivers that terrible " who talks now?"crap |
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Post by miike80 on Mar 15, 2017 15:23:20 GMT
By the 4th(it's star wars, of course it's gonna be at least 3 viewings) viewing I found TFA really unwatchable
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:35:14 GMT
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3. The Attack of the Clones
4 & 5. Return of the Jedi/The Force Awakens (tie)
6. The Phantom Menace
7. Revenge of the Sith
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:52:54 GMT
1. Empire Strikes Back 2. Star Wars 3. The Attack of the Clones 4 & 5. Return of the Jedi/The Force Awakens (tie) 6. The Phantom Menace 7. Revenge of the Sith We have virtually the exact list, except flip Episode III and II. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Mar 15, 2017 22:07:53 GMT
People loved it because it featured the OG cast members and it was a beat for beat remake of "A New Hope", so it was essentially a nostalgia trip. However, Revenge of the Sith paved the story and universe forward, I feel TFA took it backward. Rest assured, you are not alone with this line of thought. Revenge of the Sith is a flawed masterpiece, while Force Awakens is a flaw modelled after a masterpiece (i.e. ANH & OT). IMHO. |
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Post by jammer81386 on Mar 17, 2017 16:34:45 GMT
I feel as if "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" is unfairly lumped into the dreaded "Prequel Trilogy" and it's not fair. I love how Anakin puts on the mask at the very end of Episode III as opposed to how Darth Vader takes off the mask at the end of Episode VI. The only thing it's missing is a Force Ghost scene with Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi Wan. That would have been perfect, as opposed to Yoda saying Obi Wan can correspond with Qui-Gon alluding to the force ghost. I believe Revenge of the Sith is more creative, innovative, higher stakes and lower depths of darkness than The Force Awakens. The more I watch TFA, the more unbearable it holds up. The unmasking of Kylo Ren was terrible. He went from sort of menacing to an emo douche. The acting was terrible, and people talk about the prequel acting. People loved it because it featured the OG cast members and it was a beat for beat remake of "A New Hope", so it was essentially a nostalgia trip. However, Revenge of the Sith paved the story and universe forward, I feel TFA took it backward. 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. Star Wars 3. Revenge of the Sith 4. Return of the Jedi 5. The Force Awakens 6. The Phantom Menace 7. The Attack of the Clones I personally would rank Sith number 4 below Jedi. But I agree that EP III had many strong points that are overlooked in favor of its shortcomings which are relatively minor. I also agree that Awakens was more of a remake than a sequel. It was desperately lacking in originality, especially in regards to Starkiller base which was essentially yet another Death Star. Evil super weapons are a common trope in the saga. But other stories at least made them different. For example Dark Forces has the Dark Trooper a high tech battle droid that could wipe out Rebel Bases with ease. Knights of the Old Republic had the Star Forge, an ancient space platform that could produce starships quickly and cheaply. The creators of these were able to think of something original way couldn't a major motion picture studio do the same. Say what you want about the prequels, at least they tread new ground. With regards to Kylo Ren. I at least appreciate that they were trying to add a new type of villain to the series. A psychologically unstable and somewhat sympathetic antagonist was one of the few original things in the sequel trilogy. I agree that it wasn't executed very well, with the character coming off more petulant than tortured. I also didn't find his appearance(unmasked) to be intimidating. I think shorter hair would have been wise. Calling Awakens a nostalgia trip is pretty accurate and therefore I do not think the movie will age well. It may be effective at reintroducing the public to the series but as time goes on A New Hope will become the entry point again and Awakens will be seen as redundant. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 5:11:15 GMT
False. It's the best of film of the entire Star Wars Saga.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 20, 2017 15:42:15 GMT
False. It's the best of film of the entire Star Wars Saga. Agreed! |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 29, 2017 3:59:29 GMT
Every time I watch it the movie gets better. It shot from second to last on my Star Wars ranked list to third as well. It has even aged pretty well. My present-day list is:
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. The Force Awakens
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Attack of the Clones
7. Phantom Menace
AotC and RotJ are practically a tie for me.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 29, 2017 6:23:49 GMT
Every time I watch it the movie gets better. It shot from second to last on my Star Wars ranked list to third as well. It has even aged pretty well. My present-day list is: 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. A New Hope 3. Revenge of the Sith 4. The Force Awakens 5. Return of the Jedi 6. Attack of the Clones 7. Phantom Menace AotC and RotJ are practically a tie for me.Same, with an incredibly slight edge to Jedi, on account of childhood nostalgia: Revenge of the Sith A New Hope The Phantom Menace The Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi Attack of the Clones Ewoks: The Battle for Endor The Clone Wars (animated film) Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure I don't consider any of the fan films Disney has financed since they acquired the rights to use the Star Wars branding actual canon, so that's the extent of my list.  |
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Post by pete8680 on May 22, 2017 2:46:41 GMT
It's the best 2 me. It's rememberd for....
Good Anakin good! Kill him! Kill him now! DO IT!
I am the Senate! Not yet!
Order 66. ......And we shall have peace.
The Declaration of the New Order and So this is how liberty dies.....
The death of Padme & the birth of Vader & the twins.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ( i don't care. He was angry.)
And the greatest ending so far. Vader, Tarkin & Palpatine looking at the DS. Baby Leia delivered to Alderaan. Obi-Wan delivers Baby Luke 2 the Lars with a Binary Sunset. (Or was it a Sunrise? ;-) ).
I thought R1 was gonna pass it but it still needs to sink in.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 22, 2017 11:28:44 GMT
It's the best 2 me. It's rememberd for.... Good Anakin good! Kill him! Kill him now! DO IT! I am the Senate! Not yet! Order 66. ......And we shall have peace. The Declaration of the New Order and So this is how liberty dies..... The death of Padme & the birth of Vader & the twins. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ( i don't care. He was angry.) And the greatest ending so far. Vader, Tarkin & Palpatine looking at the DS. Baby Leia delivered to Alderaan. Obi-Wan delivers Baby Luke 2 the Lars with a Binary Sunset. (Or was it a Sunrise? ;-) ). I thought R1 was gonna pass it but it still needs to sink in. dude, it's also remembered for the Opera scene, Immolation montage, the fight Yoda v Palps in which they destroy the senate (prematurely, and Palps still enjoys it a lot), for the very first shot and battle, for Anakin burning, for the horrifying cheezy "Unlimited Power", for Anakin/Padmes sensing each from the distance, and many other...
This made me a fan, despite being inicially being very reserved towards the lil kiddy franchise Star Wars.
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Post by ryboto on May 22, 2017 12:10:58 GMT
My only issue with the movie, is how fragile and weak Padme is portrayed after how strong and independent she was previously. Maybe Lucas was thinking her pregnancy would make her more emotional? Still seemed way out of character. Otherwise, it's a movie I rewatch in a heartbeat given the opportunity.
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Post by ryboto on May 22, 2017 18:11:14 GMT
I feel as if "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" is unfairly lumped into the dreaded "Prequel Trilogy" and it's not fair. I love how Anakin puts on the mask at the very end of Episode III as opposed to how Darth Vader takes off the mask at the end of Episode VI. The only thing it's missing is a Force Ghost scene with Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi Wan. That would have been perfect, as opposed to Yoda saying Obi Wan can correspond with Qui-Gon alluding to the force ghost. I believe Revenge of the Sith is more creative, innovative, higher stakes and lower depths of darkness than The Force Awakens. The more I watch TFA, the more unbearable it holds up. The unmasking of Kylo Ren was terrible. He went from sort of menacing to an emo douche. The acting was terrible, and people talk about the prequel acting. People loved it because it featured the OG cast members and it was a beat for beat remake of "A New Hope", so it was essentially a nostalgia trip. However, Revenge of the Sith paved the story and universe forward, I feel TFA took it backward. 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. Star Wars 3. Revenge of the Sith 4. Return of the Jedi 5. The Force Awakens 6. The Phantom Menace 7. The Attack of the Clones its the best prequel film no doubt about it, but the acting and dialogue is pretty bad, only just passes as a decent star wars film
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi
4. The Force Awakens
5. Revenge of the sith
6. Attack of the Clones
7. Phantom Menace
Yea, the acting and dialogue in TFA is pretty bad, only just passes as a decent star wars film. 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. A New Hope 3. Return of the Jedi 4. Revenge of the Sith 5. The Phantom Menace 6. Attack of the Clones 7. -- |
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Post by ryboto on May 22, 2017 18:36:48 GMT
Yea, the acting and dialogue in TFA is pretty bad, only just passes as a decent star wars film. 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. A New Hope 3. Return of the Jedi 4. Revenge of the Sith 5. The Phantom Menace 6. Attack of the Clones 7. -- TFA is better than ROTS, this is fact, better and bigger scores, and it crushed it at the box office, this is all the evidence you need. You lose time and time again, next please. TFA is not better, and my saying so doesn't make it fact, it's an opinion. Box office numbers don't indicate film quality, your argument is flawed. Address any number of the topics that dissect all the reasons TFA is a failure as a SW film. Otherwise, next please. |
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on May 22, 2017 20:05:16 GMT
Can't say I agree with the OP.
However, as far as I see things ROTS does have one interesting thing going for it - it is the only Star Wars film released to date which is better than the one released immediately before it...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 21:38:33 GMT
Can't say I agree with the OP. However, as far as I see things ROTS does have one interesting thing going for it - it is the only Star Wars film released to date which is better than the one released immediately before it... Disagree on that point. |
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