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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 10, 2018 19:53:05 GMT
Had Power Ranger said "some of the humor" then it would have been a valid criticism. He said "a lot of the humor" and in further replies implied that he actually meant most of the humor. That made his statement entirely false. Because the bad humour can be particularly irritating. It can kill scenes. Some hate the turds and nipples. Some don’t mind it. But NO ONE watches Marvel for the turds and nipples. So why have it? *By turds and nipples I mean all of the humour fails obviously. Dude, you like Power Rangers. Power Rangers. The worst joke in the MCU is like something from the golden era of The Simpsons or best of Seinfeld when compared to the better jokes in Power Rangers. Unless you don't actually like Power Rangers and your nickname and avatar is supposed to be ironic... |
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Post by spooner5020 on May 10, 2018 20:07:45 GMT
This board is a place for any opinion on the MCU. Either positive or negative. It's not a place to chase off those who criticise it. Just so long as theres a point to the criticism and it isn't just done to get under people's skin then it shouldn't really be a problem. Again someone who didn’t get why I made this thread. I made it very clear. I don’t care if there are people that don’t like the MCU. It’s when they are not truthful about how something was done in an MCU movie or how they’ll bring up false proof like DC-Fan does. They also act like their opinion is the right opinion and that anyone that disagrees with them is unintelligent. Again we don’t care if they don’t like the MCU we just want them to stop with the trolling. |
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Post by Lee on May 10, 2018 21:38:12 GMT
As long you guy doesn't stop trolling other boards, no one will do this too.
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Post by onethreetwo on May 10, 2018 22:14:06 GMT
This thread is low key trolling, right? Like, it has to be. And frankly if it is, kudos to the OP for making it so subtle that I'm not 100 percent sure.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 10, 2018 22:41:19 GMT
This thread is low key trolling, right? Like, it has to be. And frankly if it is, kudos to the OP for making it so subtle that I'm not 100 percent sure. No actually it’s not trolling. Everyone is tired of the trolls. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 10, 2018 22:45:36 GMT
This thread is low key trolling, right? Like, it has to be. And frankly if it is, kudos to the OP for making it so subtle that I'm not 100 percent sure. Everyone is tired of the trolls. So basically you're leaving. |
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Post by sostie on May 10, 2018 22:51:55 GMT
Given up, for the moment being bothered with the trolls and their ilk. It has made the place shittier. I suggest if it bothers that much return the favour in the Star Wars boards...seems where a good few come from. I can't be bothered. Even suggesting it I found was too much hard work
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Post by thenewnexus on May 11, 2018 3:44:38 GMT
Winter Soldier,Black Panther and the Netflix stuff is the only good part of the mcu.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 4:23:42 GMT
You can have humour but just not terrible humour and lots of it. That’s limited to think it’s success justifies its entire context. Turds and nipples (and hundreds of others) isn’t justified simply because the films are a success. I’d argue that the films succeed due to the positive factors that are so strong that they carry films which get so much wrong. The technical staff are meticulous in their work. Why shouldn’t the writing be held to the same standards? Turds and nipples is the equivalent of Rocket Raccoon being stick figure CGI. We wouldn’t accept that. The worst thing they do is undercut dramatic moments with humor in almost every scene. Quill is forced to promise Gamora that he will kill her to prevent Thanos from capturing her. Very dramatic and poignant- but of course it's instantly cheapened by a joke with Drax. They do this to make the drama palatable for general audiences, especially younger ones. Thankfully they didn't add a joke like this in the final scenes. The thing that people aren't getting is that these aren't dramas. These are action/adventure movies. These movies aren't here to make you depressed. Scenes that end in a humorous moment is tension and release. They have you hold your breath and then give you that moment to breath again. If all the scenes have you hold your breath, you'd suffocate. Why do you think Marvel released the Ant-man and the Wasp trailer after the weekend Infinity War was released and not with the movie? Infinity War ended with you holding your breath. There wasn't even that second humorous end credits scene. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 4:44:18 GMT
Winter Soldier,Black Panther and the Netflix stuff is the only good part of the mcu. What about IW? |
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Post by thenewnexus on May 11, 2018 4:49:37 GMT
Winter Soldier,Black Panther and the Netflix stuff is the only good part of the mcu. What about IW? It had too many jokes,all that ruined from the serious moments |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 5:02:02 GMT
A lot of the comedy in the MCU is not only terrible, but unnecessary and is detrimental to the films’ quality. How is this false? You should be honest to yourself. We’re critical because we want the films to be better so we can enjoy them too. It's false because it is opinion. Especially when it has been shown time and time again that humor in the movies is far from detrimental. It even shows when other movie series with less (and even worse humor) don't do nearly as well. It's kinda telling that a small group of people want these movies to be more like those other movies when not many people want to go see those movies. Like they want all these movies to be in a niche corner. And the ironic part about it is that the better movies (and lauded ones by that groups praises) are the ones most like the movies they claim to not like. Crazy that.
Let's look at some examples. X-men and Spider-man. X-men was very popular all through the 90s. Spider-man had a huge drop off because of the Clone Saga. The X-men movie had dry and sometimes in your face humor. A lot of the time it's meta humor (most times saying how the comics are stupid). Didn't do big numbers like The Matrix that came out the previous year. Spider-man, on the other hand, has lots of humor. Even has some heart to heart moments with his aunt (most of which ended with her being humorous). Spider-man did way better than X-men. The Amazing Spider-man movies were made as if the Raimi movies were made like an X-men movie. Still had Spider-man's humor, but the world didn't have that corny glaze on it. Another example is The Dark Knight Trilogy. Lots of humor. Dramatic scenes all are tension builders that are capped with humor. Batman Begins has scenes like Bruce telling Alfred about how he wants to do something to help Gotham and become a symbol. It ends with Bruce wondering if Alfred is afraid people will come after Rachel to get back at him, when Alfred laughs it off saying he's worried about himself and to gas up the cars that he now owns. Alfred is used to this affect through out the series. Even Bruce has humor throughout. Batman beats up a bunch of guys on a dock and ends with him saying "Nice coat" to a homeless guy he gave the coat to years earlier.
I really don't get the anti-humor outcry. When all these movies have humor and humorous scene cappers.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 5:11:12 GMT
It had too many jokes,all that ruined from the serious moments Winter Soldier and Black Panther has lots of humor and humorous scene cappers. I mean, the stand out characters in Black Panther was M'Baku and Shuri. Both are comedic characters (especially Shuri). The casino scene was undercut with Okoye complaining about her wig (and a Stan Lee appearance). The chase ended with Okoye and Nakia's car getting blasted and Nakia sliding down the street in just the driver's seat. Humor undercutting the scene. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 11, 2018 5:14:25 GMT
It had too many jokes,all that ruined from the serious moments How so? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 11, 2018 5:14:51 GMT
Winter Soldier,Black Panther and the Netflix stuff is the only good part of the mcu. Nope. The good is much wider than that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 5:34:32 GMT
The worst thing they do is undercut dramatic moments with humor in almost every scene. Quill is forced to promise Gamora that he will kill her to prevent Thanos from capturing her. Very dramatic and poignant- but of course it's instantly cheapened by a joke with Drax. They do this to make the drama palatable for general audiences, especially younger ones. Thankfully they didn't add a joke like this in the final scenes. The thing that people aren't getting is that these aren't dramas. These are action/adventure movies. These movies aren't here to make you depressed. Scenes that end in a humorous moment is tension and release. They have you hold your breath and then give you that moment to breath again. If all the scenes have you hold your breath, you'd suffocate. Why do you think Marvel released the Ant-man and the Wasp trailer after the weekend Infinity War was released and not with the movie? Infinity War ended with you holding your breath. There wasn't even that second humorous end credits scene. Not the point though. There's a centuries old literary rule that you don't immediately undercut dramatic tension with comedy... Unless it's an actual comedy. The MCU movies aren't dramas? Then what are they? Are they comedies? Of course you can have plenty of humor- just not with the deliberate intention of cheapening the most important moments of the story. Imagine Empire Strikes Back with Luke quipping after Vader reveals that he's his father. It would destroy the moment. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 5:56:46 GMT
The thing that people aren't getting is that these aren't dramas. These are action/adventure movies. These movies aren't here to make you depressed. Scenes that end in a humorous moment is tension and release. They have you hold your breath and then give you that moment to breath again. If all the scenes have you hold your breath, you'd suffocate. Why do you think Marvel released the Ant-man and the Wasp trailer after the weekend Infinity War was released and not with the movie? Infinity War ended with you holding your breath. There wasn't even that second humorous end credits scene. Not the point though. There's a centuries old literary rule that you don't immediately undercut dramatic tension with comedy... Unless it's an actual comedy. The MCU movies aren't dramas? Then what are they? Are they comedies? Of course you can have plenty of humor- just not with the deliberate intention of cheapening the most important moments of the story. Imagine Empire Strikes Back with Luke quipping after Vader reveals that he's his father. It would destroy the moment. Action/adventure.
Um... What rule are you speaking of? Has there been a "I am your father" scene in the MCU that was undercut with comedy when the rest of the movie wasn't as comedic? Especially a movie ending revelation?
You just made up that "rule". Didn't you?
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Post by thenewnexus on May 11, 2018 6:19:54 GMT
It had too many jokes,all that ruined from the serious moments Winter Soldier and Black Panther has lots of humor and humorous scene cappers. I mean, the stand out characters in Black Panther was M'Baku and Shuri. Both are comedic characters (especially Shuri). The casino scene was undercut with Okoye complaining about her wig (and a Stan Lee appearance). The chase ended with Okoye and Nakia's car getting blasted and Nakia sliding down the street in just the driver's seat. Humor undercutting the scene. Those are minor compared to the other mcu movies |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 6:27:18 GMT
Winter Soldier and Black Panther has lots of humor and humorous scene cappers. I mean, the stand out characters in Black Panther was M'Baku and Shuri. Both are comedic characters (especially Shuri). The casino scene was undercut with Okoye complaining about her wig (and a Stan Lee appearance). The chase ended with Okoye and Nakia's car getting blasted and Nakia sliding down the street in just the driver's seat. Humor undercutting the scene. Those are minor compared to the other mcu movies Minor? Stuff like that is all through the movie. I think you guys don't know what you don't like about the movies (if you don't at all) so just use the "socially accepted" reason. Next you'll move on to another "reason". |
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Post by Skaathar on May 11, 2018 6:28:52 GMT
Winter Soldier,Black Panther and the Netflix stuff is the only good part of the mcu. I bet you just loved the Twilight movies. |
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