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Post by gbone on May 15, 2018 12:14:47 GMT
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 15, 2018 15:46:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:02:26 GMT
It's a Lars Van Trier film. Was this audience expecting something warm and cuddly?
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 15, 2018 16:09:18 GMT
It's a Lars Van Trier film. Was this audience expecting something warm and cuddly? Well, Cannes audiences are notoriously demonstrative. They don't just yawn and roll their eyes at movies they don't like, they stand up and loudly boo, and they don't just react and enjoy a film, they give them minutes long standing ovations afterward. Also, Lars Von Trier is who he is and has a history of pissing people off at Cannes, so there's a good chance that some of these walk out folks went there with the intention of making a scene no matter the content of the film itself. And then there is also the possibility that the movie did actually affect people that much. Those of us not at the festival will have to wait and see.
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 15, 2018 16:22:53 GMT
Reading some of these responses can be funny, like the predictable cries of 'he's finally gone too far' and 'showing this kind of violence is not art' and other such soft nonsense.
But I especially enjoyed this, "why can’t Lars von Trier just make a normal fcking movie for once?" and this, "he mutilates children... and we are all there in formal dress expected to watch it?"
and then there's the other side of predictable: "People are walking out of the new Lars Von Trier movie. Like they didn't know exactly what they were getting into."
But it seems the call of it being gross AND pretentious might be fair.
The shots of the tigers juxtaposed against the sheep in the trailer are some of the lamest attempts at trying to be artistic I can imagine. It's like a parody of some douchey film school short.
Maybe that's the point. We'll have to see.
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Post by gbone on May 15, 2018 17:31:00 GMT
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on May 16, 2018 19:38:07 GMT
It's been called "vomitive" which only makes me wanna see it even more.
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 16, 2018 19:41:36 GMT
It's been called "vomitive" which only makes me wanna see it even more. Has it? I know it's been called 'vomitous' which is an actual word... If these idiots have been using pseudo-intellectual, misused, made up words that's even funnier. Edit: a 'vomitive' is evidently a medicine that induces vomit, so I suppose it is apt, though I still think that critic was trying for the adjective .
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on May 16, 2018 19:59:48 GMT
It's been called "vomitive" which only makes me wanna see it even more. Has it? I know it's been called 'vomitous' which is an actual word... If these idiots have been using pseudo-intellectual, misused, made up words that's even funnier. Edit: a 'vomitive' is evidently a medicine that induces vomit, so I suppose it is apt, though I still think that critic was trying for the adjective . It has! "Gross. Pretentious. Vomitive.Torturous. Pathetic." That's what one Cannes viewer called it. That word elicited quite the chortle from myself, and made my day!
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 16, 2018 23:57:50 GMT
Lol based on that reception I really want to see it.
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Post by politicidal on May 19, 2018 18:15:34 GMT
It's a Lars Van Trier film. Was this audience expecting something warm and cuddly? Evidently. They did the same with Nicolas Winding Refn.
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Post by ck100 on May 19, 2018 18:26:44 GMT
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Aug 7, 2019 21:05:20 GMT
The Trailer That Jack Built! This movie was okay, until the strange and unsatisfying ending. I get what Lars was trying to do, I just would have preferred something else.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Aug 8, 2019 19:01:10 GMT
The Trailer That Jack Built! This movie was okay, until the strange and unsatisfying ending. I get what Lars was trying to do, I just would have preferred something else. Do you get what he was trying to do? I'm not entirely sure that I do. Looking back over this thread now that it has been resurrected, I see comments I (and others) made over a year ago, and now that I've seen the film it's interesting how it was just exactly what we were all expecting. The lame attempts at artful juxtaposition, the overt attempts to be shocking, the skill as a filmmaker but hampered by confused messaging. It's all pure Lars Von Trier. All in all, I come away not knowing what to make of it, as with many of his films. I was indeed disturbed and didn't get through it upon the first viewing. I had to take a break. It was indeed disturbingly violent, but mostly I stopped because of the nihilism of it all. There was nothing but unpleasantness and ugliness. When I came back to it, I saw the humor a bit more. Especially after the point where I had paused it. It was so ludicrously over the top nihilistic and graphic that it just couldn't be taken seriously anymore, and it became more and more clear that Von Trier was sort of making fun of the perception of his work and himself personally... especially by people who go to the Cannes film festival. But I came to that assessment well before he had to lay it on way too thickly by splicing in a montage of his own films as an example of the awful things in the world. And then it takes takes another crazy turn. I'm not sure of anyone cares if it's spoiled, but the last half hour or so both explains the first portion of the movie, and also feels like a wild departure. It's weird. At that stage it was clearly more metatextual, satirical, and silly, but also played pretty straight with some cool effects and sets that sell the thing. All in all, it's weird. It's interesting. It's gross and disturbing. It's well directed, and the performances are largely very strong. I thought about it for some time afterwards, but I don't know that I care to give it a whole lot more of my attention. One thing that is sort of funny, and probably completely intentional, is that the movie is something completely different after the point at which people would have walked out, so that none of those people would have any way to review the film accurately. Von Trier may or may not be a great artist, but I do believe that he is a great prankster.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Aug 8, 2019 20:06:15 GMT
The Trailer That Jack Built! This movie was okay, until the strange and unsatisfying ending. I get what Lars was trying to do, I just would have preferred something else. Do you get what he was trying to do? I'm not entirely sure that I do. Looking back over this thread now that it has been resurrected, I see comments I (and others) made over a year ago, and now that I've seen the film it's interesting how it was just exactly what we were all expecting. The lame attempts at artful juxtaposition, the overt attempts to be shocking, the skill as a filmmaker but hampered by confused messaging. It's all pure Lars Von Trier. All in all, I come away not knowing what to make of it, as with many of his films. I was indeed disturbed and didn't get through it upon the first viewing. I had to take a break. It was indeed disturbingly violent, but mostly I stopped because of the nihilism of it all. There was nothing but unpleasantness and ugliness. When I came back to it, I saw the humor a bit more. Especially after the point where I had paused it. It was so ludicrously over the top nihilistic and graphic that it just couldn't be taken seriously anymore, and it became more and more clear that Von Trier was sort of making fun of the perception of his work and himself personally... especially by people who go to the Cannes film festival. But I came to that assessment well before he had to lay it on way too thickly by splicing in a montage of his own films as an example of the awful things in the world. And then it takes takes another crazy turn. I'm not sure of anyone cares if it's spoiled, but the last half hour or so both explains the first portion of the movie, and also feels like a wild departure. It's weird. At that stage it was clearly more metatextual, satirical, and silly, but also played pretty straight with some cool effects and sets that sell the thing. All in all, it's weird. It's interesting. It's gross and disturbing. It's well directed, and the performances are largely very strong. I thought about it for some time afterwards, but I don't know that I care to give it a whole lot more of my attention. One thing that is sort of funny, and probably completely intentional, is that the movie is something completely different after the point at which people would have walked out, so that none of those people would have any way to review the film accurately. Von Trier may or may not be a great artist, but I do believe that he is a great prankster. This is a great review, thanks for putting it into words.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Aug 8, 2019 21:46:34 GMT
This is a great review, thanks for putting it into words. My pleasure. So that's how you took the ending too?
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Aug 8, 2019 22:16:00 GMT
This is a great review, thanks for putting it into words. My pleasure. So that's how you took the ending too? Yeah, Lars loves to revel in the uglier facets of humanity, in all his movies. Melancholia, although pretty to look at, was ugly too. I wouldn't say the ending was ruined by what happened, but I would have preferred a more satisfying ending, rooted in the reality that the film was made in, up until then. Your feelings are the same as mine, I think he did it to throw people off, to surprise audiences...but is it the way it should have ended?
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Post by forca84 on Aug 9, 2019 19:33:27 GMT
I haven't watched it yet. I have read about some scenes of animal abuse. Which personally just turns me off...
I know... Weird I like horror films. But get easily sad if an animal gets hurt or killed in a movie. Knowing it's (usually) fake.
I did watch "Melancholia" when it first came to dvd a long time ago.
"Antichrist"? I don't think I could watch it... Even for me it sounds too much. Just reading about it. Yikes.
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