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Post by darkpast on May 23, 2018 22:35:18 GMT
Presales are bad for a Disney star wars film. If it plays more like Marvel family film it could barely break 100m for the 3 day.
Bad for 250m+ movie
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Post by merh on May 24, 2018 2:33:34 GMT
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 24, 2018 2:36:06 GMT
OMG!1!
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Post by darkpast on May 24, 2018 2:39:57 GMT
Deadpool 2 is an R-Rated film and Infinity War came out a month ago
No excuse if it underperforms
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Post by merh on May 24, 2018 3:49:47 GMT
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Post by darkpast on May 25, 2018 22:04:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 22:12:44 GMT
Disney/Lucasfilmβs Solo: A Star Wars Story posted $14.1M in Thursday night previews. Disney is calling that a record for a Thursday prior to Memorial Day weekend, exceeding the $13.2M made by Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worldβs End on the Thursday prior to its holiday weekend. We already mentioned last night how Solo towers over other Memorial Day weekend previews such as The Hangover Part 2 ($10.4M), X-Men: Apocalypse ($8.2M), X-Men: Days of Future Past ($8.1M), and Fast and Furious 6 ($6.5M). At Worldβs End grossed $139.8M over four-days, a Memorial Day record with $153M over five-days. Soloβs previews rank behind Thor: Ragnarokβs $14.5M which opened to $122.7M during the first weekend in November.
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Post by darkpast on May 25, 2018 23:36:34 GMT
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Post by NormanClature on May 26, 2018 1:57:26 GMT
Everyone has been saying the Solo marketing team are lying shitbags for weeks. They were claiming an opening weekend of $150 million plus and yet nobody could find a theater that was sold out opening night. If the above article is true then they are guilty of some pretty heinous BS. That's the sort of scummy behavior we have become used to from WB marketing the DCU.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 26, 2018 12:37:23 GMT
So basically the movie is fucking trash, and audiences hated it.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on May 26, 2018 15:48:43 GMT
The movie got okay reviews, this wasnt enough to build up a great opening weekend.
The difference this and Last Jedu, which most people disliked, is that it had many of the classics characters in it people wanted to see again. This movie only has their names. That wont draw the big crowds.
The big question is how well it can do overseas, because this movie won't even make 300 million domestically. And it needs to make at least 500 million to turn a profit.
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Post by NormanClature on May 26, 2018 16:34:08 GMT
The movie got okay reviews, this wasnt enough to build up a great opening weekend. The difference this and Last Jedu, which most people disliked, is that it had many of the classics characters in it people wanted to see again. This movie only has their names. That wont draw the big crowds. The big question is how well it can do overseas, because this movie won't even make 300 million domestically. And it needs to make at least 500 million to turn a profit. $500 million to break even? What planet are you from? Do you really spend time on here reading posts about BO and learn absolutely nothing? Even if the stated production budget of $250 million includes the costs of having to reshoot nearly the entire movie (highly unlikely), Solo would still need $750 million from the worldwide BO to break even in theaters.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on May 26, 2018 17:46:25 GMT
The movie got okay reviews, this wasnt enough to build up a great opening weekend. The difference this and Last Jedu, which most people disliked, is that it had many of the classics characters in it people wanted to see again. This movie only has their names. That wont draw the big crowds. The big question is how well it can do overseas, because this movie won't even make 300 million domestically. And it needs to make at least 500 million to turn a profit. $500 million to break even? What planet are you from? Do you really spend time on here reading posts about BO and learn absolutely nothing? Even if the stated production budget of $250 million includes the costs of having to reshoot nearly the entire movie (highly unlikely), Solo would still need $750 million from the worldwide BO to break even in theaters. Deadline already confirmed the 250 million includes the reshoots. And since Disney takes more money overseas than every other studio 500 million is about right.
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Post by NormanClature on May 26, 2018 17:51:49 GMT
$500 million to break even? What planet are you from? Do you really spend time on here reading posts about BO and learn absolutely nothing? Even if the stated production budget of $250 million includes the costs of having to reshoot nearly the entire movie (highly unlikely), Solo would still need $750 million from the worldwide BO to break even in theaters. Deadline already confirmed the 250 million includes the reshoots. And since Disney takes more money overseas than every other studio 500 million is about right. No. It isn't. It's not as though people haven't demonstrated to you before why your perception is incorrect. Are you like this with everything in life? You just shake your head and carry on believing what you want to believe no matter what evidence is put in front of you.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on May 26, 2018 19:54:28 GMT
Deadline already confirmed the 250 million includes the reshoots. And since Disney takes more money overseas than every other studio 500 million is about right. No. It isn't. It's not as though people haven't demonstrated to you before why your perception is incorrect. Are you like this with everything in life? You just shake your head and carry on believing what you want to believe no matter what evidence is put in front of you. That is funny coming from you who denies the budget is truly 250 million after reshoots, even though credible sources say otherwise. And do you know why double the budget is the benchmark for the start of making profit? Because studios get between 50 and 65 percent of the money domestically, depending on the studio. Disney is one that commands the most. And as high as 45 percent overseas. I've been studylying box office for well over a decade now. I know what I'm talking about.
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Post by NormanClature on May 26, 2018 21:16:27 GMT
No. It isn't. It's not as though people haven't demonstrated to you before why your perception is incorrect. Are you like this with everything in life? You just shake your head and carry on believing what you want to believe no matter what evidence is put in front of you. That is funny coming from you who denies the budget is truly 250 million after reshoots, even though credible sources say otherwise. And do you know why double the budget is the benchmark for the start of making profit? Because studios get between 50 and 65 percent of the money domestically, depending on the studio. Disney is one that commands the most. And as high as 45 percent overseas. I've been studylying box office for well over a decade now. I know what I'm talking about. You also always argue the same shit and you are ALWAYS wrong. I didn't deny the budget was $250 million, if you know how to read and comprehend text, that is.
And for someone who has been studylying BO for over a decade, it's a wonder how you always forget to include the marketing budget in any of your calculations.
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Post by politicidal on May 27, 2018 0:30:01 GMT
That must be upsetting.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on May 27, 2018 1:22:48 GMT
That is funny coming from you who denies the budget is truly 250 million after reshoots, even though credible sources say otherwise. And do you know why double the budget is the benchmark for the start of making profit? Because studios get between 50 and 65 percent of the money domestically, depending on the studio. Disney is one that commands the most. And as high as 45 percent overseas. I've been studylying box office for well over a decade now. I know what I'm talking about. You also always argue the same shit and you are ALWAYS wrong. I didn't deny the budget was $250 million, if you know how to read and comprehend text, that is.
And for someone who has been studylying BO for over a decade, it's a wonder how you always forget to include the marketing budget in any of your calculations. What are you blabbering. You have talk to me once and all of a sudden you know who I am? Give me a break.
Marketing costs are not forgotten, just often offset by other things. Like in film advertising or toy lines for example for Star Wars.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on May 27, 2018 1:25:53 GMT
Presales are bad for a Disney star wars film. If it plays more like Marvel family film it could barely break 100m for the 3 day. Bad for 250m+ movie $35 million (domestic) on it's opening day. Compare that to films with similar numbers it projects to $300 million to $550 million. Breaking $500 million might even be considered optimistic. (Yes, breaking $500 million domestic is very optimistic).
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Post by NormanClature on May 27, 2018 1:37:15 GMT
You also always argue the same shit and you are ALWAYS wrong. I didn't deny the budget was $250 million, if you know how to read and comprehend text, that is.
And for someone who has been studylying BO for over a decade, it's a wonder how you always forget to include the marketing budget in any of your calculations. What are you blabbering. You have talk to me once and all of a sudden you know who I am? Give me a break.
Marketing costs are not forgotten, just often offset by other things. Like in film advertising or toy lines for example for Star Wars.
On what planet does "highly unlikely" = denial?
I have read a number of articles which have said the budget is "at least $250 million." You read an article that says the budget is $250 million. Cool. I never said that it isn't.
Disney won't see much of the money made from ancillaries for ages. A movie is judged as a success or a failure based on it's performance in theaters. $250 million budget + $125 million marketing = $375 million. Even allowing for a fifty/fifty split with theater chains worldwide (which we know there isn't), Solo would need to gross $750 million to break even on it's theatrical run.
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