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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 9:35:18 GMT
This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume. InfoWars had the same article, but it said "not secure" for some reason, so I went with this one.  Nephilim SkullsWell, now that the "head binding" theory has been shot down in flames, it leaves two possibilities: 1) The Bible is correct and angels got together somehow with human women and produced a race of hybrids. 2) Aliens from another world came here in ancient times and mixed their DNA with human DNA, thus producing a race of hybrids. Which one is more plausible? You have to decide that for yourself.  |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 12, 2018 11:00:34 GMT
I've decided what is more plausible, which is a striking hereditary macrocephaly, thanks anyway.
When we examine the content of such claims, and who is making them, we find lots of reasons to be skeptical of the hype about the skulls. Such announcements are not made in a scientific journal, but typically via the sensationalist media—the same media that promotes mermaids, Bigfoot, and other startling claims. The author of the article to which you link has apparently written a (more speculative than usual) book on The Rapture. And so on. This does not mean that the claims are necessarily wrong but, imho, it makes them less likely to be right. A sceptical and more sober look at the DNA evidence can be found here:
violentmetaphors.com/2016/09/20/genetic-mythologies-nephilim-dna-from-the-paracas-skulls/ |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 12, 2018 14:20:30 GMT
This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume. InfoWars had the same article, but it said "not secure" for some reason, so I went with this one. Nephilim SkullsWell, now that the "head binding" theory has been shot down in flames, it leaves two possibilities: 1) The Bible is correct and angels got together somehow with human women and produced a race of hybrids. 2) Aliens from another world came here in ancient times and mixed their DNA with human DNA, thus producing a race of hybrids. Which one is more plausible? You have to decide that for yourself. Would you say that it's possible to change the volume of human necks via artificial means systematically applied from a young age? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 17:42:19 GMT
This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume. InfoWars had the same article, but it said "not secure" for some reason, so I went with this one. Nephilim SkullsWell, now that the "head binding" theory has been shot down in flames, it leaves two possibilities: 1) The Bible is correct and angels got together somehow with human women and produced a race of hybrids. 2) Aliens from another world came here in ancient times and mixed their DNA with human DNA, thus producing a race of hybrids. Which one is more plausible? You have to decide that for yourself. Would you say that it's possible to change the volume of human necks via artificial means systematically applied from a young age? Do you mean reduce the volume or increase it, or both? |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 12, 2018 17:44:37 GMT
Would you say that it's possible to change the volume of human necks via artificial means systematically applied from a young age? Do you mean reduce the volume or increase it, or both? I was thinking specifically of increasing it, but sure, we could include decreasing, too. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 17:46:35 GMT
Do you mean reduce the volume or increase it, or both? I was thinking specifically of increasing it, but sure, we could include decreasing, too. Are you referring to the Kayan women of Myanmar? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 17:54:09 GMT
I've decided what is more plausible, which is a striking hereditary macrocephaly, thanks anyway.
When we examine the content of such claims, and who is making them, we find lots of reasons to be skeptical of the hype about the skulls. Such announcements are not made in a scientific journal, but typically via the sensationalist media—the same media that promotes mermaids, Bigfoot, and other startling claims. The author of the article to which you link has apparently written a (more speculative than usual) book on The Rapture. And so on. This does not mean that the claims are necessarily wrong but, imho, it makes them less likely to be right. A sceptical and more sober look at the DNA evidence can be found here:
violentmetaphors.com/2016/09/20/genetic-mythologies-nephilim-dna-from-the-paracas-skulls/ If you mean L.A. Marzulli, yes, he believes in the Rapture. I don't. Is there a way to get one's finding published in scientific journal without being an atheist? |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 12, 2018 17:56:24 GMT
I was thinking specifically of increasing it, but sure, we could include decreasing, too. Are you referring to the Kayan women of Myanmar? That's an example, yes. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 18:00:47 GMT
Are you referring to the Kayan women of Myanmar? That's an example, yes. It changes the shape on the neck, and not the volume that I'm aware of, at least not significantly. 25% is significant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 18:12:11 GMT
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 12, 2018 18:14:44 GMT
"Which one is more plausible?"
As a nonbeleiver, I suppose the second. But I'm not sure how much sense that would even make. I'm not a genetics expert, but I do know that DNA between two species has to be similar enough (I believe over 90%) to produice offspring. To put that into perspective a chimp shares about 96% of DNA with humans and it's not even known for sure if we can breed with them. On top of that, it doesn't really make any sense only the skulls would look "alien", it would serve to reaosn the rest of their skeleton would look at least a bit different from normal humans.
"This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume."
How do you figure that? Perhaps the binding process does in fact increase the cranium size if you do it at a young enough age. As Terrpain Station already meantined, African tribes do a smiliar thing with women's necks.
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 12, 2018 18:22:14 GMT
lowtacks86
WRONG!
The women are from Thailand and Vietnam.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 18:23:42 GMT
"Which one is more plausible?" As a nonbeleiver, I suppose the second. But I'm not sure how much sense that would even make. I'm not a genetics expert, but I do know that DNA between two species has to be similar enough (I believe over 90%) to produice offspring. To put that into perspective a chimp shares about 96% of DNA with humans and it's not even known for sure if we can breed with them. On top of that, it doesn't really make any sense only the skulls would look "alien", it would serve to reaosn the rest of their skeleton would look at least a bit different from normal humans. "This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume." How do you figure that? Perhaps the binding process does in fact increase the cranium size if you do it at a young enough age. African tribes do a smiliar thing with women's necks. Asian. People probably think they're African because of that Bugs Bunny carton where he disguises himself by putting a spring around his neck. Like I told Terrapin Station, I don't see how that would increase the volume. It merely changes the shape. I've noticed that people seem to be somewhat disturbed by the idea of crossbreeding with a nonhuman race, unless it's in a work of fiction, like Star Trek. I find it a little disturbing too, but the evidence tells me that's indeed what happened. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 12, 2018 18:25:30 GMT
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WRONG!
The women are from Thailand and Vietnam. African women do it as well:
"The South Ndebele peoples of Africa also wear neck rings as part of their traditional dress and as a sign of wealth and status. Only married women are allowed to wear the rings, called dzilla. Metal rings are also worn on different parts of the body, not just the neck. Traditionally these rings are given to a wife by her husband, and not removed until the husband's death; however, these rings are individual and do not function as a body modification. [4][5] The rings are usually made of copper or brass."
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 18:27:03 GMT
lowtacks86
WRONG!
The women are from Thailand and Vietnam. African women do it as well:
"The South Ndebele peoples of Africa also wear neck rings as part of their traditional dress and as a sign of wealth and status. Only married women are allowed to wear the rings, called dzilla. Metal rings are also worn on different parts of the body, not just the neck. Traditionally these rings are given to a wife by her husband, and not removed until the husband's death; however, these rings are individual and do not function as a body modification. [4][5] The rings are usually made of copper or brass."
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 12, 2018 18:30:17 GMT
"Which one is more plausible?" As a nonbeleiver, I suppose the second. But I'm not sure how much sense that would even make. I'm not a genetics expert, but I do know that DNA between two species has to be similar enough (I believe over 90%) to produice offspring. To put that into perspective a chimp shares about 96% of DNA with humans and it's not even known for sure if we can breed with them. On top of that, it doesn't really make any sense only the skulls would look "alien", it would serve to reaosn the rest of their skeleton would look at least a bit different from normal humans. "This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume." How do you figure that? Perhaps the binding process does in fact increase the cranium size if you do it at a young enough age. African tribes do a smiliar thing with women's necks. Asian. People probably think they're African because of that Bugs Bunny carton where he disguises himself by putting a spring around his neck. Like I told Terrapin Station, I don't see how that would increase the volume. It merely changes the shape. I've noticed that people seem to be somewhat disturbed by the idea of crossbreeding with a nonhuman race, unless it's in a work of fiction, like Star Trek. I find it a little disturbing too, but the evidence tells me that's indeed what happened. I find the idea of alien crossbreeding quite fascinating, but rather implausible (again, the DNA would have to be similar enough, considering an alien has a completely different evoltuionary lineage it seems highly unlikely they would have similar DNA).
"I don't see how that would increase the volume."
I don't see why not, again we've seen a smiliar thing happen with neck extensions.
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 12, 2018 18:34:19 GMT
Lowtacks86
You are still incorrect, as we are speaking about body modification. Stay on topic.
The tribes in Vietnam and Thailand, use it AS BODY MODIFICATION.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 18:41:31 GMT
This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume. InfoWars had the same article, but it said "not secure" for some reason, so I went with this one. Nephilim SkullsWell, now that the "head binding" theory has been shot down in flames, it leaves two possibilities: 1) The Bible is correct and angels got together somehow with human women and produced a race of hybrids. 2) Aliens from another world came here in ancient times and mixed their DNA with human DNA, thus producing a race of hybrids. Which one is more plausible? You have to decide that for yourself. 3) You're a conspiracy idiot. Occam's razor... |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 18:56:59 GMT
Asian. People probably think they're African because of that Bugs Bunny carton where he disguises himself by putting a spring around his neck. Like I told Terrapin Station, I don't see how that would increase the volume. It merely changes the shape. I've noticed that people seem to be somewhat disturbed by the idea of crossbreeding with a nonhuman race, unless it's in a work of fiction, like Star Trek. I find it a little disturbing too, but the evidence tells me that's indeed what happened. I find the idea of alien crossbreeding quite fascinating, but rather implausible (again, the DNA would have to be similar enough, considering an alien has a completely different evoltuionary lineage it seems highly unlikely they would have similar DNA).
"I don't see how that would increase the volume."
I don't see why not, again we've seen a smiliar thing happen with neck extensions.
Changing the shape is not the same as changing the volume. A square box 2 x 2 x 2 has the same volume as a rectangular box 1 x 2 x 4, or 1 x 1 x 8. Different shape, same volume. Yes, it seems highly unlikely that aliens would have DNA similar enough for successful breeding with humans, which helps very much to debunk the alien scenario in my mind. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2018 18:57:49 GMT
This cannot be accomplished by binding the head of an infant, which changes the shape of the skull but does not increase volume. InfoWars had the same article, but it said "not secure" for some reason, so I went with this one. Nephilim SkullsWell, now that the "head binding" theory has been shot down in flames, it leaves two possibilities: 1) The Bible is correct and angels got together somehow with human women and produced a race of hybrids. 2) Aliens from another world came here in ancient times and mixed their DNA with human DNA, thus producing a race of hybrids. Which one is more plausible? You have to decide that for yourself. 3) You're a conspiracy idiot. Occam's razor... If you can't come up with anything more original than that, clear out. |
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