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Post by ericareneprice on Jun 25, 2018 1:56:27 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 25, 2018 2:33:34 GMT
I think there is 99.99% chance that Jon Snow would engage in the battle. They didn't change the Night King to a person who has vast experience in stunt works for nothing. Also, they showed it in season 7 that you kill the walkers and the wights they created die. Jon will know that the only way of managing existing wights and newly created wights would be to kill the Walkers. The more important thing is that how would that sacrifice of Nissa Nissa be incorporated in the show. They will probably involve Dany in the fight and probably kill her. There are very good reasons to believe in the prophecies.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 25, 2018 3:09:36 GMT
It takes a particular disposition not to realise that the writers want you to believe in prophecies only to replace their fulfilment with a Big Shocking Twist®.
Yes, the Fool in the North will go get himself killed by the Night King. That much is pretty logical. The latter will be brought down by a volley of dragonglass quarrels designed by Qyburn and shot by Lannister soldiers. Dumb Starks have proven themselves useless all along the story. Why should it change?
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 25, 2018 3:24:36 GMT
It takes a particular disposition not to realise that the writers want you to believe in prophecies only to replace their fulfilment with a Big Shocking Twist ®. Yes, the Fool in the North will go get himself killed by the Night King. That much is pretty logical. The latter will be brought down by a volley of dragonglass quarrels designed by Qyburn and shot by Lannister soldiers. Dumb Starks have proven themselves useless all along the story. Why should it change? Lol at your hope  ...You think that Lannisters will get that much part to play? The only good from Lannister camp will come from Jaime Lannister. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 25, 2018 5:27:11 GMT
It takes a particular disposition not to realise that the writers want you to believe in prophecies only to replace their fulfilment with a Big Shocking Twist ®. Yes, the Fool in the North will go get himself killed by the Night King. That much is pretty logical. The latter will be brought down by a volley of dragonglass quarrels designed by Qyburn and shot by Lannister soldiers. Dumb Starks have proven themselves useless all along the story. Why should it change? Lol at your hope ...You think that Lannisters will get that much part to play? The only good from Lannister camp will come from Jaime Lannister. Oh,you don't know what's coming? That's cute. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 25, 2018 5:49:22 GMT
And just in case…  |
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Post by bluerisk on Jun 25, 2018 14:23:26 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
Jon Snow is not even a great sword fighter..."lesser" opponents like Qhorin Halfhand or Karl Tanner were too much for him. I don't think he could best the Hound, the Mountain or Ser Bronn of the Blackwater. And the Night's King brought down a dragon single handed...to wield a weapon with this precision and strength is far beyond human. And he is like 8000 years old. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 25, 2018 14:48:46 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
Jon Snow is not even a great sword fighter..."lesser" opponents like Qhorin Halfhand or Karl Tanner were too much for him. I don't think he could best the Hound, the Mountain or Ser Bronn of the Blackwater. And the Night's King s brought down a dragon singeld handed...to wield a weapon with this precision and strength is far beyond human. And he is like 8000 years old. Oh no, Jon Snow's going to die again…  |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 25, 2018 19:04:51 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
Jon Snow is not even a great sword fighter..."lesser" opponents like Qhorin Halfhand or Karl Tanner were too much for him. I don't think he could best the Hound, the Mountain or Ser Bronn of the Blackwater. And the Night's King brought down a dragon single handed...to wield a weapon with this precision and strength is far beyond human. And he is like 8000 years old. Jon Snow has never claimed to be an extraordinarily great warrior. His greatness doesn't lie in being a great warrior but being in a great human being. At this point of time it is pretty safe to believe that Jon Snow is the chosen one.
Lion of red keep, you can't have have it both ways, mate. You keep saying that the quality of show has deteriorated since season 5 and season 6 & 7 were nearly unwatchable. You keep saying that now the producers are pandering to what people want to see. And yet in this thread you go on to claim that producers are going to fool people with some big shocking twist. Sure, I do agree agree that there will be a good shocking twist. But that twist may not be regarding who kills the Night King. It is almost guaranteed that either Jon or Jon/Dany combination will kill Night King if Night King is killed at all. However, one thing I can guarantee you is that Cersei or her army is not going to be the one who take credit for killing the Night King. May be I will give 5% chance to Jaime being the hero.
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Post by bluerisk on Jun 25, 2018 19:26:43 GMT
Jon Snow is not even a great sword fighter..."lesser" opponents like Qhorin Halfhand or Karl Tanner were too much for him. I don't think he could best the Hound, the Mountain or Ser Bronn of the Blackwater. And the Night's King brought down a dragon single handed...to wield a weapon with this precision and strength is far beyond human. And he is like 8000 years old. Jon Snow has never claimed to be an extraordinarily great warrior. His greatness doesn't lie in being a great warrior but being in a great human being. At this point of time it is pretty safe to believe that Jon Snow is the chosen one.
Lion of red keep, you can't have have it both ways, mate. You keep saying that the quality of show has deteriorated since 5 and season 6 & 7 was nearly unwatchable. You keep saying that now the producers are pandering to what people want to see. and yet in this thread you go on to claim that producers are going to fool people with some big shocking twist. Sure, I do agree agree that there will be a good shocking twist. But that twist may not be regarding who kills the night king. It is almost guaranteed that either Jon or Jon/Dany combination will kill Night King if Night King is killed at all. However, one thing I can guarantee you is that Cersei or her army is not going to be the one who take credit for killing the Night King. May be I will give 5% chance to Jaime being the hero.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 25, 2018 19:29:41 GMT
Jon Snow has never claimed to be an extraordinarily great warrior. His greatness doesn't lie in being a great warrior but being in a great human being. At this point of time it is pretty safe to believe that Jon Snow is the chosen one.
Lion of red keep, you can't have have it both ways, mate. You keep saying that the quality of show has deteriorated since 5 and season 6 & 7 was nearly unwatchable. You keep saying that now the producers are pandering to what people want to see. and yet in this thread you go on to claim that producers are going to fool people with some big shocking twist. Sure, I do agree agree that there will be a good shocking twist. But that twist may not be regarding who kills the night king. It is almost guaranteed that either Jon or Jon/Dany combination will kill Night King if Night King is killed at all. However, one thing I can guarantee you is that Cersei or her army is not going to be the one who take credit for killing the Night King. May be I will give 5% chance to Jaime being the hero.
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Post by bluerisk on Jun 25, 2018 20:19:13 GMT
What's there for that eye-roll, mate? What crimes has he done to gain your irk? Because Ned Stark's greatest quality was the same, and look how he ended...lion fodder or icicle...that's what I can't tell so far. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 25, 2018 22:25:31 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
I've been saying this since the beginning: the White Walkers will be the most disappointing aspect of the story. With only six remaining episodes, it will either feel very rushed and/or the WW's won't be fully "realized" by the end of the series. Those who got into the show on that alone, get ready to be disappointed. The best part of mysteries is that they actually remain mysterious. Once the cat is out of the bag, the illusion is gone and disappointment sets in. No one can beat our own imagination. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 26, 2018 6:06:15 GMT
Lion of red keep, you can't have have it both ways, mate. You keep saying that the quality of show has deteriorated since 5 and season 6 & 7 was nearly unwatchable. You keep saying that now the producers are pandering to what people want to see. and yet in this thread you go on to claim that producers are going to fool people with some big shocking twist. Yes, this is a contradiction rooted in the decision to end the story the same way as the book original will. D&D pander to the audience but will steer towards GRRM's ending no matter what. At least, they have said so. Then of course, they no longer need to pander to anyone for the ending. In addition, prophecies have a much bigger weight in the books than in the show. I take it as confirmation that GRRM intends to take his readers aback with them, otherwise they wouldn't have been left out. The whole Azor Ahai / Nissa Nissa thing is a misdirection. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 26, 2018 6:11:49 GMT
They've been teasing it since their first meeting. The staredowns, the unspoken rivalry between the leader of each side.
I think the show would feel incomplete if Jon Snow and the Night King didn't go 1 on 1 in the finale.
I've been saying this since the beginning: the White Walkers will be the most disappointing aspect of the story. With only six remaining episodes, it will either feel very rushed and/or the WW's won't be fully "realized" by the end of the series. S3E10 Jojen Reed: "You saw the White Walkers and the army of the dead. The Night's Watch can't stop them. The Kings of Westeros and all their armies can't stop them". For some reason, no one ever remembers this in spite of Jojen's sight having proven itself. Most viewers seem to think that throwing armies of fools at certain death is going to bring a solution. It won't. Bran will do something, like asking the Night King about his favourite colour and the guy will vanish. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 26, 2018 6:17:54 GMT
What's there for that eye-roll, mate? What crimes has he done to gain your irk? Because Ned Stark's greatest quality was the same, and look how he ended...lion fodder or icicle...that's what I can't tell so far. No, Ned Stark was a principled arsehole. Jon is someone who at least looks for a middle ground, but he's an idiot. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 26, 2018 17:04:54 GMT
For some reason, no one ever remembers this in spite of Jojen's sight having proven itself. Most viewers seem to think that throwing armies of fools at certain death is going to bring a solution. It won't. Bran will do something, like asking the Night King about his favourite colour and the guy will vanish.The secret weapon!  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 26, 2018 17:57:44 GMT
For some reason, no one ever remembers this in spite of Jojen's sight having proven itself. Most viewers seem to think that throwing armies of fools at certain death is going to bring a solution. It won't. Bran will do something, like asking the Night King about his favourite colour and the guy will vanish.The secret weapon! Laugh about it now while you still can I'm pretty sure the story will be resolved by some anti-climactic Bran ex machina trick. They had Jojen say these two key things just once, so people would likely forget them: "I saw the only thing that matters, you" early in S3E02 and that hint in the S3 finale that all the kings and armies couldn't help. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jun 26, 2018 23:51:35 GMT
Lol at your hope ...You think that Lannisters will get that much part to play? The only good from Lannister camp will come from Jaime Lannister. Oh,you don't know what's coming? That's cute. Leo I have been looking and re-reading your finale predictions some of it happened like little finger being executed sansa so far has shown fear of cersei didn't accept her invitation to the dragon pit cersei was looking for her ,so maybe cersei upon finding out Sansa didn't kill Joffrey wants an alliance with Sansa , but when you say Sansa asks jons allegiance how will that be ? I think cersei will set up a political marriage between them I just know it m you'll see and if cersei adopts crowns Sansa this means cersei miss-carries her baby? Because if not then she doesn't need Sansa. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jun 26, 2018 23:53:37 GMT
I think there is 99.99% chance that Jon Snow would engage in the battle. They didn't change the Night King to a person who has vast experience in stunt works for nothing. Also, they showed it in season 7 that you kill the walkers and the wights they created die. Jon will know that the only way of managing existing wights and newly created wights would be to kill the Walkers. The more important thing is that how would that sacrifice of Nissa Nissa be incorporated in the show. They will probably involve Dany in the fight and probably kill her. There are very good reasons to believe in the prophecies. And if it happens I hope it's early in the show I like ending fued or battle or if any be human not with zombies I think danys zombie dragon viserys will kill her when Dany sees her dragon like that she won't be able to take it or kill it and she will sacrifice herself instead |
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