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Post by kls on Jun 29, 2018 11:25:56 GMT
There is no second, third, fourth, fifth or infinity coming of Christ. Christ IS NOT the savior, was not the savior and will never be the savior, so get over yourselves please. He was a teacher and savior of himself and the same goes for all of us. Stop expecting others to take on your burden of suffering for you, that is your OWN journey. You do know that Jesus never actually existed right ? I don't plan to debate who Jesus was or is, but I don't think it's too logical Christianity could have spread in the decades after 30 AD without a historical individual (that is a Jesus of Nazareth) existing who preached throughout the Holy Land. His message was preached where He walked by His followers to people who would have heard of His teachings. How would they convince people this Jesus preached in their temples or community and that he was among them if they never saw them? Why would the people who spread the message be willing to die for some made up story of a being who they knew didn't exist?
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jun 29, 2018 14:10:21 GMT
Jesus... This shit again? Yes, dumbass, things change. Some things that were important before an event are no longer important after the event happens. Is this really that hard of a concept for you to grasp?  And, yes.... because apparently you are this fcking stupid.... If God exists and there is a second coming... the rules that apply now might not be relevant in a world that has been destroyed in Armageddon and rebuilt into a "New Earth"... It's kinda what "New" means.... You know the word that you've been ignoring for the last 70 times you complained about this same topic.  If God is all powerful, (S)He would have had a priori knowledge that the "event" was going to happen and (S)He should have set the rules with the knowledge of the event before it happened. You're just making excuses and Bible beating double-talk. Whenever there's a contradiction in the Bible, you always have some lame-ass excuse. Rather than deal with the contradiction, you resort to insults. God did not make man in his own image, man made God in his image. Deal with it. |
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Post by Vegas on Jun 29, 2018 14:57:19 GMT
God did not make man in his own image, man made God in his image. Deal with it. This would explain why your God is a moron. It's not an excuse or double-talk.... It's a simple concept that seems beyond you for some reason. Pointing out that you're a moron isn't an insult.... it's just calling the sky blue. God having prior knowledge of an event doesn't have any bearing on what He deems that people should do prior/in preparation for said event. ...and knowing that things would change after said event was over. And the fact that this has been pointed out to you numerous times... just proves that the sky is indeed blue. 
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Post by general313 on Jun 29, 2018 15:23:51 GMT
You do know that Jesus never actually existed right ? I don't plan to debate who Jesus was or is, but I don't think it's too logical Christianity could have spread in the decades after 30 AD without a historical individual (that is a Jesus of Nazareth) existing who preached throughout the Holy Land. His message was preached where He walked by His followers to people who would have heard of His teachings. How would they convince people this Jesus preached in their temples or community and that he was among them if they never saw them? Why would the people who spread the message be willing to die for some made up story of a being who they knew didn't exist?
It's not like Christianity was without competition in those days. Syncretisms in late antiquityChristianity looks "good" now because it is the one that won. Losers don't get to edit the history books. |
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Post by hanswilm on Jun 29, 2018 18:32:36 GMT
The second coming of Christ. The Old Testament, written some three thousand years ago by “God”, tells us that we should consume neither pork nor shellfish nor rabbits nor certain combinations of food. There are lots of rules that God established. God’s word should be cast in stone which is why I question the authorship. Let’s face it: scallops wrapped in bacon sure are tasty, so let’s find a way to do it. Then along comes the New Testament where “Jesus” tells us it’s OK to do these things. I personally think that’s double-talking gibberish established by those who want to pick and choose those passages in the Bible to which they obey. For all I know, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John sold bacon cheeseburgers. But this thread is about the second coming of Christ. If Christ gave us the authority to change some of God’s rules once, how do we know whether Jesus will change them again when he comes a second time. Maybe he will give us permission to masturbate or commit adultery or worship another God (like Charles Taze Russel). I know I should remember the Sabbath day, but my Alzheimer’s kicks in on the weekend so I just go to the beach. If God’s rules keep changing, when will he make up his mind? And why should we believe that there will not be a third coming of Christ. I don't have an opinion really, I just wanted to let you know X is 5  |
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Post by Vegas on Jul 1, 2018 7:54:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 12:04:20 GMT
If there's one thing we can be sure of about christ, it's that he has a really, really long refractory period.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 1, 2018 12:31:01 GMT
You would have to explain how that applies in Jesus' case, but we both know you won't. |
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Post by kls on Jul 1, 2018 12:37:10 GMT
You would have to explain how that applies in Jesus' case, but we both know you won't. I'm at a loss too. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jul 1, 2018 16:04:18 GMT
I don't plan to debate who Jesus was or is, but I don't think it's too logical Christianity could have spread in the decades after 30 AD without a historical individual (that is a Jesus of Nazareth) existing who preached throughout the Holy Land. His message was preached where He walked by His followers to people who would have heard of His teachings. How would they convince people this Jesus preached in their temples or community and that he was among them if they never saw them? Why would the people who spread the message be willing to die for some made up story of a being who they knew didn't exist?
It's not like Christianity was without competition in those days. Syncretisms in late antiquityChristianity looks "good" now because it is the one that won. Losers don't get to edit the history books. Interesting link, thanks! |
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