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Post by agentblue on Jul 4, 2018 21:01:57 GMT
Whether it is a reboot or a continuation who do you want to direct??
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jul 5, 2018 0:29:29 GMT
Whether it is a reboot or a continuation who do you want to direct?? |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 5, 2018 23:59:48 GMT
I think they should take a stab at a TF6 if only to give some semblance of closure to the madness. Anyone but Michael Bay would suffice.
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Post by agentblue on Jul 6, 2018 1:08:04 GMT
I think they should take a stab at a TF6 if only to give some semblance of closure to the madness. Anyone but Michael Bay would suffice. It will definitely be someone that is not Bay. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 6, 2018 19:02:05 GMT
Travis Knight I guess? Bumblebee looks great and is getting good buzz( no pun intended).
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Post by agentblue on Jul 7, 2018 0:58:11 GMT
Travis Knight I guess? Bumblebee looks great and is getting good buzz( no pun intended). That seems too on the nose. |
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Post by politicidal on Jul 8, 2018 14:19:29 GMT
Travis Knight I guess? Bumblebee looks great and is getting good buzz( no pun intended). Honestly, it's not a bad idea. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 8, 2018 16:38:40 GMT
Travis Knight I guess? Bumblebee looks great and is getting good buzz( no pun intended). Honestly, it's not a bad idea. If Bumblebee turns out to not only deliver all necessarily box office profit to be called a hit, does well with audiences, and actually does very well critically it would be a dumb move to not let him make more of them. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 13, 2018 14:51:42 GMT
Honestly, it's not a bad idea. If Bumblebee turns out to not only deliver all necessarily box office profit to be called a hit, does well with audiences, and actually does very well critically it would be a dumb move to not let him make more of them. I was just saying Bumblebee’s preview had no right to be as good as it was. It looks so far removed from the last 5 movies that it really should be its own thing. If Bumblebee is any good that means we had to sit through 5 crappy Transformers movies just to get a good one and that is not fair. |
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Post by agentblue on Jul 14, 2018 2:45:17 GMT
If Bumblebee turns out to not only deliver all necessarily box office profit to be called a hit, does well with audiences, and actually does very well critically it would be a dumb move to not let him make more of them. I was just saying Bumblebee’s preview had no right to be as good as it was. It looks so far removed from the last 5 movies that it really should be its own thing. If Bumblebee is any good that means we had to sit through 5 crappy Transformers movies just to get a good one and that is not fair. I blame Michael Bay. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 14, 2018 4:38:00 GMT
If Bumblebee turns out to not only deliver all necessarily box office profit to be called a hit, does well with audiences, and actually does very well critically it would be a dumb move to not let him make more of them. I was just saying Bumblebee’s preview had no right to be as good as it was. It looks so far removed from the last 5 movies that it really should be its own thing. If Bumblebee is any good that means we had to sit through 5 crappy Transformers movies just to get a good one and that is not fair. The first movie was good and introduced a new generation to the brand, eleven years later it has shown some age but looking at the series with a critical eye it is easy to see why it is looked back so fondly by some and tolerated by others. Unlike the sequels its more to the point, has a better sense of spectacle, humor and drama are more balanced, and there's a legitimate sense of wonder, innocence, and general free spiritedness. In other words, it was a fun and easy to get into. The sequels however didn't know exactly where to go next, on the second they made it up as they went, the third outing it seemed like they were trying to tie up all loose ends and finish a series, on the fourth they try to semi-reboot it and gritty it up more, the fifth was meant to kick start a cinematic universe but it came off as more of a commercial than a solid narrative. Personally speaking I cannot see myself defending Revenge of the Fallen beyond a "yes, it could've better, way better, sure" - it has too much going on, but some of the action was nice (forest fight says hello). Dark of the Moon I think is a solid enough sequel, would've trimmed the first act and a bit of the second but the third act was pretty solid and gave the best spectacle and action of the five, and seeing it in 3D was pure eye candy. I can take or leave Age of Extinction and The Last Knight, there are things that I like but there are things which I'm not too fond of and could've easily done without - Age of Extinction went on thirty minutes too long, The Last Knight tried too hard to be one too many things. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 14, 2018 4:53:10 GMT
I was just saying Bumblebee’s preview had no right to be as good as it was. It looks so far removed from the last 5 movies that it really should be its own thing. If Bumblebee is any good that means we had to sit through 5 crappy Transformers movies just to get a good one and that is not fair. I blame Michael Bay. Yes and no. Bay may have lots of power as a director and producer but he's only as good as whatever script he's working with and who is giving orders. He will honor those directives and stick to them till the movie is out; with Pearl Harbor he was assigned to do a 1940's esque romantic-war story with plenty of "aww" and 'razzle dazzle' moments and make it PG-13. With 13 Hours, another war film, he was assigned to tell a gritty, semi-docudrama of the Benghazi attacks and focus specifically on the men and women who risked everything. With Transformers Bay was hired and answered directly to Spielberg on the first, on the others it was more to Lorenzo DiBonaventura and other Paramount execs. Bay and everyone else signed a deal to make a sequel and release it on its intended date - on Revenge of the Fallen they had no real script to work with and were making everything up as they went along and pretty much guessed what could've clicked with movie goers and what they wanted to see. He wanted to exit the series after Dark of the Moon but in order to get funding for other projects like Pain & Gain and 13 Hours he had to sign a new contract which would require him to direct Age of Extinction and a possible fifth. With The Last Knight a writers room was assembled and they came up with several ideas for movies and DiBonaventura had the idea to combine a few suggestions into one narrative, Bay made the movie but Paramount wanted it to be shorter than the last one so at least an hour's worth of footage was cut from theatrical release and more than a handful of editors were brought in to try and make the narrative as realized as possible, and well, we know how that went. Bay's done directing these movies pretty much, but he'll stick around in a producer capacity because the money is too good. |
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Post by agentblue on Jul 14, 2018 5:33:36 GMT
Yes and no. Bay may have lots of power as a director and producer but he's only as good as whatever script he's working with and who is giving orders. He will honor those directives and stick to them till the movie is out; with Pearl Harbor he was assigned to do a 1940's esque romantic-war story with plenty of "aww" and 'razzle dazzle' moments and make it PG-13. With 13 Hours, another war film, he was assigned to tell a gritty, semi-docudrama of the Benghazi attacks and focus specifically on the men and women who risked everything. With Transformers Bay was hired and answered directly to Spielberg on the first, on the others it was more to Lorenzo DiBonaventura and other Paramount execs. Bay and everyone else signed a deal to make a sequel and release it on its intended date - on Revenge of the Fallen they had no real script to work with and were making everything up as they went along and pretty much guessed what could've clicked with movie goers and what they wanted to see. He wanted to exit the series after Dark of the Moon but in order to get funding for other projects like Pain & Gain and 13 Hours he had to sign a new contract which would require him to direct Age of Extinction and a possible fifth. With The Last Knight a writers room was assembled and they came up with several ideas for movies and DiBonaventura had the idea to combine a few suggestions into one narrative, Bay made the movie but Paramount wanted it to be shorter than the last one so at least an hour's worth of footage was cut from theatrical release and more than a handful of editors were brought in to try and make the narrative as realized as possible, and well, we know how that went. Bay's done directing these movies pretty much, but he'll stick around in a producer capacity because the money is too good. Oh wow that makes a lot of sense now. I knew with the second and third one he only had a year to prep them or something. The last two he did so he could make his other movies. I guess its Paramounts fault. Wouldnt it be hilarious if he directed the next one because they offer him a truck load of money. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 14, 2018 6:54:22 GMT
Yes and no. Bay may have lots of power as a director and producer but he's only as good as whatever script he's working with and who is giving orders. He will honor those directives and stick to them till the movie is out; with Pearl Harbor he was assigned to do a 1940's esque romantic-war story with plenty of "aww" and 'razzle dazzle' moments and make it PG-13. With 13 Hours, another war film, he was assigned to tell a gritty, semi-docudrama of the Benghazi attacks and focus specifically on the men and women who risked everything. With Transformers Bay was hired and answered directly to Spielberg on the first, on the others it was more to Lorenzo DiBonaventura and other Paramount execs. Bay and everyone else signed a deal to make a sequel and release it on its intended date - on Revenge of the Fallen they had no real script to work with and were making everything up as they went along and pretty much guessed what could've clicked with movie goers and what they wanted to see. He wanted to exit the series after Dark of the Moon but in order to get funding for other projects like Pain & Gain and 13 Hours he had to sign a new contract which would require him to direct Age of Extinction and a possible fifth. With The Last Knight a writers room was assembled and they came up with several ideas for movies and DiBonaventura had the idea to combine a few suggestions into one narrative, Bay made the movie but Paramount wanted it to be shorter than the last one so at least an hour's worth of footage was cut from theatrical release and more than a handful of editors were brought in to try and make the narrative as realized as possible, and well, we know how that went. Bay's done directing these movies pretty much, but he'll stick around in a producer capacity because the money is too good. Oh wow that makes a lot of sense now. I knew with the second and third one he only had a year to prep them or something. The last two he did so he could make his other movies. I guess its Paramounts fault. Wouldnt it be hilarious if he directed the next one because they offer him a truck load of money. He doesn't need a truck load of money at this point in his career...He has enough to get him by for several lifetimes, he can get a movie made just with his name alone he's so rich. |
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Post by agentblue on Jul 14, 2018 16:42:58 GMT
Oh wow that makes a lot of sense now. I knew with the second and third one he only had a year to prep them or something. The last two he did so he could make his other movies. I guess its Paramounts fault. Wouldnt it be hilarious if he directed the next one because they offer him a truck load of money. He doesn't need a truck load of money at this point in his career...He has enough to get him by for several lifetimes, he can get a movie made just with his name alone he's so rich. yes he is. |
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