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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 9, 2018 14:35:54 GMT
I don't see how An actors career will be enhanced … I feel actor will only be remembered for that not their acting skills it's easier to take your clothes off for success than not but you won't be remembered for your acting only for showing your boobs or bud. Yes, that's about it. They are selling themselves, doing the extra thing to get the job. Many will do it a couple of times and wish they hadn't. Some will fall for the illusion that times are changing and that it is a "new normality" but it's not. It's still giving more for the same price, being cheap. Once you've made yourself known as cheap, you'll never be expensive. Then of course, it's not giving acting quality, so they are remembered more for showing themselves than for their acting, which backfires. Some will then spew out some self bullshitting "liberation" nonsense like that actress who was made to walk around naked for half a season in Westworld. She was good but I wonder how good this will do to her career. The so-called "liberated" fools fail to realise that giving away something others find valuable is a mistake. Emilia Clarke is wise not to show herself any more. She stopped as soon as she could. As to the turds who feel entitled to anything they want from actors, they'll go fuck themselves.
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Post by movieliker on Jul 9, 2018 15:35:12 GMT
I don't know where you guys are coming from. Certainly not from the perspective of the typical man. Do you know that your post sounded like coming from a 15 year old boy and nobody is going to take that seriously? Absolutely not. Being a 59 year old man, and being around men all my life, I know how men talk, think and feel. The perspective you are expressing is not common among men. It is not realistic or largely held. I studied psychology in college. Although it was not my major, it is still an interest of mine. I know psychologists and psychiatrists. We talk regularly. And I know how men think. And what the majority opinions are.
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Post by movieliker on Jul 9, 2018 15:44:37 GMT
I agree. It is all subjective. But in my opinion, Daneryus is better looking than Sansa from the neck up. But from the neck down, she is kind of short and thick. Sansa has a better bone structure. We never get to see Sansa naked either. I am always suspect of actresses we never see naked. They want us to believe it is written in their contracts because they feel they want to be known for who they are and their acting skills. Not because they are willing to take their clothes off for a cheap thrill. But I believe that is BS. They probably don't look good naked and they don't want to face the ridicule. If they are good at acting, getting naked won't hurt their careers. Only enhance it. Didn't seem to hurt Susan Sarandon's career. Or Halle Berry's, or Marisa Tomei's or Kate Winslet's careers. If I was an actress I would never want to take my clothes off in front of camera or strangers or for millions of strangers to see me on their TV screens I would feel violated being good at acting or whatever it is you do has nothing to do with you taking your clothes off , unless someone is in X rated business and have no clue about that and I don't want to , I don't see how An actors career will be enchanced all it does makes people gossip about you make fun of you and other weird things ,and I really don't know how some of these actors who are so eager to take their clothes off face their parents or loved ones , good example , Antonion banderas stepdaughter or ex stepdaughter daughter now -who is also don Johnson daughter who started in fifty shades of grey (Dakota Johnson ) who got more than naked in that stupid movie , both her ex step dad and father said they won't watch that movie it's demeaning and uncomfortable and I feel actor will only be remembered for that not their acting skills it's easier to take your clothes off for success than not but you won't be remembered for your acting only for showing your boobs or bud. That sounds prudish and unevolved to me. Most parents have seen you naked since the day you were born. And most parents have seen people have sex before. Believe it or not, that is how most children were made. So it is a concept with which they are familiar. If you play a serial killer who loves torturing and killing others, that doesn't mean you are a serial killer who loves torturing and killing. Same with sex scenes. You are supposed to be portraying somebody else having sex. Nobody is watching you having sex. And as far as being naked, you are not showing anything others haven't seen before. So what's the big deal? If you look good in clothes --- great. If you look good naked --- great. If you don't look good in clothes --- are you not supposed to go out in public? If you don't look good naked --- are you never supposed to get naked? You are who you are. Hopefully the result of your best efforts. Accept it and move on.
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Post by shinnickneth on Jul 9, 2018 16:31:55 GMT
That's a pretty weak comeback Shinnickneth . . . ha ha ha . . . "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things."
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Post by movieliker on Jul 9, 2018 16:56:47 GMT
That's a pretty weak comeback Shinnickneth . . . ha ha ha . . . "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things." You are not saying anything Shinnickneth. You would make a terrible lawyer. You are not even a good debater. All you are implying is you have no argument against my position. Whatever your position is, you can't defend it because you probably have never thought about it. Your opinion was probably grandfathered in from some stuck up stuff shirt you mistakenly assumed was classy, moral and evolved.
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Post by movieliker on Jul 11, 2018 0:55:28 GMT
LMAO....this whole post is funny. After further thought, that kid was kinda retarded. At 10 years old, I could have just stood still after the second arrow shot, and just moved right or left to avoid the arrows. They were taking 5 to 10 seconds from the time of being shot to landing. Those high arching arrow shots were slow and easy to avoid. That whole scene was ridiculous.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 12, 2018 19:41:31 GMT
If I was an actress I would never want to take my clothes off in front of camera or strangers or for millions of strangers to see me on their TV screens I would feel violated being good at acting or whatever it is you do has nothing to do with you taking your clothes off , unless someone is in X rated business and have no clue about that and I don't want to , I don't see how An actors career will be enchanced all it does makes people gossip about you make fun of you and other weird things ,and I really don't know how some of these actors who are so eager to take their clothes off face their parents or loved ones , good example , Antonion banderas stepdaughter or ex stepdaughter daughter now -who is also don Johnson daughter who started in fifty shades of grey (Dakota Johnson ) who got more than naked in that stupid movie , both her ex step dad and father said they won't watch that movie it's demeaning and uncomfortable and I feel actor will only be remembered for that not their acting skills it's easier to take your clothes off for success than not but you won't be remembered for your acting only for showing your boobs or bud. That sounds prudish and unevolved to me. Most parents have seen you naked since the day you were born. And most parents have seen people have sex before. Believe it or not, that is how most children were made. So it is a concept with which they are familiar. If you play a serial killer who loves torturing and killing others, that doesn't mean you are a serial killer who loves torturing and killing. Same with sex scenes. You are supposed to be portraying somebody else having sex. Nobody is watching you having sex. And as far as being naked, you are not showing anything others haven't seen before. So what's the big deal? If you look good in clothes --- great. If you look good naked --- great. If you don't look good in clothes --- are you not supposed to go out in public? If you don't look good naked --- are you never supposed to get naked? You are who you are. Hopefully the result of your best efforts. Accept it and move on. i guess some of us think of our bodies sacred and not to be shared with the world i get that its acting but they are still getting naked for REAL so i think its a line that is being crossed , and its also very uncomfortable to watch a show like this with family or older people just out of respect the storytelling is ok they dont need that in my humble opinion or to be that graphic the other sleazy stuff especially some stuff that are not even in the books and on the show i heard it was D&D ideas were not that amusing and good example even though nudity was NOT involved thank god , is sansas rape totally uncalled for that whole scene was messed up and demeaning im surprised the actress since filming that shes become very liberal outspoken about her political views and it seems she hasnt said much about that but then again D&D are her bosses.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 12, 2018 19:44:23 GMT
I don't see how An actors career will be enhanced … I feel actor will only be remembered for that not their acting skills it's easier to take your clothes off for success than not but you won't be remembered for your acting only for showing your boobs or bud. Yes, that's about it. They are selling themselves, doing the extra thing to get the job. Many will do it a couple of times and wish they hadn't. Some will fall for the illusion that times are changing and that it is a "new normality" but it's not. It's still giving more for the same price, being cheap. Once you've made yourself known as cheap, you'll never be expensive. Then of course, it's not giving acting quality, so they are remembered more for showing themselves than for their acting, which backfires. Some will then spew out some self bullshitting "liberation" nonsense like that actress who was made to walk around naked for half a season in Westworld. She was good but I wonder how good this will do to her career. The so-called "liberated" fools fail to realise that giving away something others find valuable is a mistake. Emilia Clarke is wise not to show herself any more. She stopped as soon as she could. As to the turds who feel entitled to anything they want from actors, they'll go fuck themselves. i see a lot of actresses who begin their careers especially shows on cable get naked really fast and only thing that i can think of is to make them popular fast you see a lot of it on outlander too a series on starz and it got really bad there with 2 guys one of them being gay raping the other i mean i had to rurn the tv off thats how bad it got , it really was disturbing and i think there are going to far they did same on the Tudors series too.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 12, 2018 22:04:34 GMT
i see a lot of actresses who begin their careers especially shows on cable get naked really fast and only thing that i can think of is to make them popular fast you see a lot of it on outlander too a series on starz and it got really bad there with 2 guys one of them being gay raping the other i mean i had to rurn the tv off thats how bad it got , it really was disturbing and i think there are going to far they did same on the Tudors series too. They're just being whores, doing the easy thing to get the easy reward, catering to the easily satisfied. The same goes for the productions which make them do it. Going for the cheap effect of showing skin or, as GoT has done in S6, pleasing fools with the awaited outcome without the build-up that justified it. Walder Frey's death was the epitome of such a sin. I felt insulted by S6 and left before the end. I felt the same in all the brothel scenes of the early seasons, I knew this was directed at the scum too dumb to appreciate the story but in for a good look at the wares. I would have dropped off in S2 if it hadn't suddenly waned. To be honest, I almost did after the "shadow baby", not because of nudity, that was fine, but because magic was taking a weight I didn't want to see, cheapened the story. Good to know the Tudors went that way, it will spare me wasting time with it.
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Post by movieliker on Jul 12, 2018 22:10:44 GMT
That sounds prudish and unevolved to me. Most parents have seen you naked since the day you were born. And most parents have seen people have sex before. Believe it or not, that is how most children were made. So it is a concept with which they are familiar. If you play a serial killer who loves torturing and killing others, that doesn't mean you are a serial killer who loves torturing and killing. Same with sex scenes. You are supposed to be portraying somebody else having sex. Nobody is watching you having sex. And as far as being naked, you are not showing anything others haven't seen before. So what's the big deal? If you look good in clothes --- great. If you look good naked --- great. If you don't look good in clothes --- are you not supposed to go out in public? If you don't look good naked --- are you never supposed to get naked? You are who you are. Hopefully the result of your best efforts. Accept it and move on. i guess some of us think of our bodies sacred and not to be shared with the world i get that its acting but they are still getting naked for REAL so i think its a line that is being crossed , and its also very uncomfortable to watch a show like this with family or older people just out of respect the storytelling is ok they dont need that in my humble opinion or to be that graphic the other sleazy stuff especially some stuff that are not even in the books and on the show i heard it was D&D ideas were not that amusing and good example even though nudity was NOT involved thank god , is sansas rape totally uncalled for that whole scene was messed up and demeaning im surprised the actress since filming that shes become very liberal outspoken about her political views and it seems she hasnt said much about that but then again D&D are her bosses. I understand where you are coming from. And I respect it. Many people feel the way you do. Buy obviously, many people feel the way I do. Thank goodness. Otherwise, there would be no nudity or pornography. I believe if done correctly, pornography is healthy for certain individuals and society in general. (Game of Thrones has no pornography. Pornography is graphic views of private parts, penetration and bodily fluids. None of that in Game of Thrones.) Most people I know who feel the way I do about graphic violence and nudity agree, Game of Thrones is not family entertainment. It is not for children, or adults with conservative opinions of nudity, sex and violence. The Sansa rape scene implied rape. Nothing was shown. Sansa has never been naked on camera (in Game of Thrones).
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