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Post by Aj_June on Mar 20, 2017 17:45:18 GMT
She used to be a believer in both the new gods and the old. But is she still a believer in the show?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 20, 2017 18:22:40 GMT
She said she's left this behind, so no, she isn't.
It is consistent with the strictly anti-religious bias the show has had all along, much clearer than the books.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 24, 2017 5:28:26 GMT
She said she's left this behind, so no, she isn't. It is consistent with the strictly anti-religious bias the show has had all along, much clearer than the books. Yeah, correct observation regarding consistency of beliefs in the show as opposed to the books. Sansa is still not non-religious type in the book but they seem to have tweaked the things a bit in the show. I think Sansa didn't ever have any problems with mixing the old and the new gods in her prayers. But she seemed to be the only Stark kid who took new gods seriously (perhaps because she was more Tully and Catelyn like than other Stark kids). |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 24, 2017 6:23:01 GMT
She said she's left this behind, so no, she isn't. It is consistent with the strictly anti-religious bias the show has had all along, much clearer than the books. Yeah, correct observation regarding consistency of beliefs in the show as opposed to the books. Sansa is still not non-religious type in the book but they seem to have tweaked the things a bit in the show. I think Sansa didn't ever have any problems with mixing the old and the new gods in her prayers. But she seemed to be the only Stark kid who took new gods seriously (perhaps because she was more Tully and Catelyn like than other Stark kids). Honestly, I don't remember the books enough to come up with details but the show certainly messed up when they had Karstark say he would "carve out his heart and offer it to the Father" in S2. No one would expect the Karstarks to follow the New Gods. They then showed Robb and Talisa marrying under the Seven in Riverrun which was a little strange for a man who was made "King in the North" by an Umber just after he said he wouldn't follow the southerners, adding for common levity that "even their gods are wrong". In any case, Robb officially displayed respect of his mother's religion even when doing the very thing she was opposing. I wonder what was the point of it. |
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 24, 2017 6:38:51 GMT
They definitely took liberties on those occasions. I remember the wedding of Robb was not mentioned in detail in the books. He just returned to his mother after a campaign and told her that he got married. The reason he gave was that Talisa comforted him after he came to know about apparent killing of his younger brothers by Theon.
I have a question on a different but closely related theme of old gods and northerners.
Jorah Mormont is often referred to as 'Jorah the Andal' in Essos. Do you have any info as to what is the religion of Mormonts? Don't remember old bear ever mention his religion in the books. But I remember ""even their gods are wrong" scene in the show and Lady Mormont did laughed hard on that line and so made fun of the new gods. Though i think Mormonts are not originally from North as Bear Island was gifted to Mormonts by the Starks. It seems religion of Mormonts is never mentioned but people of Essos simply call him 'Andal' because they believe anyone who is from Westeros is an Andal.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 24, 2017 7:15:41 GMT
The Mormonts are pure northerners without known connections to the Andals. "Jorah the Andal" is a misnomer, an example of people dwelling on unverified assumptions and gross generalisations. GRRM likes to show such things.
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