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Post by hardball on Jul 22, 2018 1:01:10 GMT
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Post by General Kenobi on Jul 23, 2018 21:52:47 GMT
More of the same old same old. Just rinse and repeat because no one cares about quality.
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Post by BexxyJ on Jul 27, 2018 14:20:56 GMT
Where is Amy Jackson this season? Why is there no official comfirmation about her status in the show? This is not on. Not happy Jan.
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Post by dazz on Jul 27, 2018 18:22:05 GMT
You can really tell they haven't had Melissa around to shoot anything new cant yah with that trailer, I like how Sam Witwers character seems to be set up as a big deal but it's silly to think the major cliffhanger of S3 was the Dopplekara in Russia and we get no tease of that in this.
The suit at the end is kinda wtf to me like why? looks cool but whats the point?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 27, 2018 19:21:29 GMT
You can really tell they haven't had Melissa around to shoot anything new cant yah with that trailer, I like how Sam Witwers character seems to be set up as a big deal but it's silly to think the major cliffhanger of S3 was the Dopplekara in Russia and we get no tease of that in this. The suit at the end is kinda wtf to me like why? looks cool but whats the point? It's reminiscent of an alternate "masked" Superman in Future's End, set several years ahead of the main continuity. Superman had gone MIA when this guy claiming to be Superman, but wearing a mask appeared. Speculation abound about who he was, if he was Superman and why he was wearing a mas, but it turned out to be Billy Batson/Shazam.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jul 28, 2018 14:16:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 12:26:35 GMT
Where is Amy Jackson this season? Why is there no official comfirmation about her status in the show? This is not on. Not happy Jan. Amy said on one of her social networking accounts she is going to be back again this season but from the looks of things she is definitely not going to be a regular and it might only be for 2 or 3 episodes. Looking back at those pictures she shared of herself with blonde hair that were taken when she was filming something Saturn Girl might actually have blonde hair when she returns.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 12:30:42 GMT
You can really tell they haven't had Melissa around to shoot anything new cant yah with that trailer, I like how Sam Witwers character seems to be set up as a big deal but it's silly to think the major cliffhanger of S3 was the Dopplekara in Russia and we get no tease of that in this. The suit at the end is kinda wtf to me like why? looks cool but whats the point? Hopefully I am wrong but they might hold that part off for the following season and we won't see it again until right near the end or they will hold it off until the middle of the season and have Sam Witwers character play the main villain for the first half. Taylorsfirst made a good suggestion on here a few weeks back that the shows should have two main villains a season with one taking up the first half of the season and the second taking up the latter and I think that is a good idea and I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them do something similar to '24' where Jack had to find a number of villains throughout the series and didn't find the main one until right near the end.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Aug 10, 2018 14:13:35 GMT
You can really tell they haven't had Melissa around to shoot anything new cant yah with that trailer, I like how Sam Witwers character seems to be set up as a big deal but it's silly to think the major cliffhanger of S3 was the Dopplekara in Russia and we get no tease of that in this. The suit at the end is kinda wtf to me like why? looks cool but whats the point? Hopefully I am wrong but they might hold that part off for the following season and we won't see it again until right near the end or they will hold it off until the middle of the season and have Sam Witwers character play the main villain for the first half. Taylorsfirst made a good suggestion on here a few weeks back that the shows should have two main villains a season with one taking up the first half of the season and the second taking up the latter and I think that is a good idea and I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them do something similar to '24' where Jack had to find a number of villains throughout the series and didn't find the main one until right near the end. Agents of SHIELD have been doing that too. It's alright, but honestly I would prefer seeing some of these shows take a crack at a more episodic format. It used to be the mainstay for the vast majority of shows in the US, and I find more and more the serial format unnecessarily dragging a story out. I've been doing a on-going quasi-binge watch of Law and Order SVU the last couple of months, watch all episodes in order - which may or may not have been the best idea, with 19 seasons, but I'm just getting to the end of season 17. The thing that's most striking is that after nearly 20 years, they're still a predominantly episodic, with each episode having a beginning, middle and end. Whatever you might think of the current seasons, you still come away from each episode feeling like something actually happened. And they still weave the occasional arc through the season, and use their history, not just hitting the reset button at the end of each episode, like was the problem of some shows, like Star Trek The Next Generation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 12:01:10 GMT
Hopefully I am wrong but they might hold that part off for the following season and we won't see it again until right near the end or they will hold it off until the middle of the season and have Sam Witwers character play the main villain for the first half. Taylorsfirst made a good suggestion on here a few weeks back that the shows should have two main villains a season with one taking up the first half of the season and the second taking up the latter and I think that is a good idea and I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them do something similar to '24' where Jack had to find a number of villains throughout the series and didn't find the main one until right near the end. Agents of SHIELD have been doing that too. It's alright, but honestly I would prefer seeing some of these shows take a crack at a more episodic format. It used to be the mainstay for the vast majority of shows in the US, and I find more and more the serial format unnecessarily dragging a story out. I've been doing a on-going quasi-binge watch of Law and Order SVU the last couple of months, watch all episodes in order - which may or may not have been the best idea, with 19 seasons, but I'm just getting to the end of season 17. The thing that's most striking is that after nearly 20 years, they're still a predominantly episodic, with each episode having a beginning, middle and end. Whatever you might think of the current seasons, you still come away from each episode feeling like something actually happened. And they still weave the occasional arc through the season, and use their history, not just hitting the reset button at the end of each episode, like was the problem of some shows, like Star Trek The Next Generation. They have? I am sadly not up to date with the latest series of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ ‘cause they are not releasing them on DVD anymore and I don’t know why ‘cause all the other shows are getting released on DVD including ‘Marvel’s The Runaways’ and ‘The Gifted’ but the last season of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ that was released here on DVD was Season 4. I get what you mean though and I’m not against the shows going with a more episodic format either and we used to have that with ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ with the whole monster of the week thing but they still had a main villain to face at the end like with the first season it was The Master, the second season it was Angelus, the third it was the Mayor and so on but they also had other villains like Spike and Dru who played a large part in Season 2 and Faith when she turned bad.
It would be nice if we could see some of these shows do something similar to that in my opinion and have a main villain like Angelus they don’t face until the end, two other villains that serve at the lead villains for the first half of the season and a bunch of other villains they face every week and with DC there is no shortage of villains they could use and there are literally thousands of villains we have yet to see on screen that could be used in an episodic format. I think a lot of shows dropped the weekly episodic format after '24' was a success and if you watch some of the behind the scenes features of '24' they talk about how it influenced other shows to change the way they wrote seasons and have them more connected together and there were other shows that were more connected like that before '24' but I think we started getting a lot more after that.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Aug 18, 2018 19:41:51 GMT
Agents of SHIELD have been doing that too. It's alright, but honestly I would prefer seeing some of these shows take a crack at a more episodic format. It used to be the mainstay for the vast majority of shows in the US, and I find more and more the serial format unnecessarily dragging a story out. I've been doing a on-going quasi-binge watch of Law and Order SVU the last couple of months, watch all episodes in order - which may or may not have been the best idea, with 19 seasons, but I'm just getting to the end of season 17. The thing that's most striking is that after nearly 20 years, they're still a predominantly episodic, with each episode having a beginning, middle and end. Whatever you might think of the current seasons, you still come away from each episode feeling like something actually happened. And they still weave the occasional arc through the season, and use their history, not just hitting the reset button at the end of each episode, like was the problem of some shows, like Star Trek The Next Generation. They have? I am sadly not up to date with the latest series of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ ‘cause they are not releasing them on DVD anymore and I don’t know why ‘cause all the other shows are getting released on DVD including ‘Marvel’s The Runaways’ and ‘The Gifted’ but the last season of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ that was released here on DVD was Season 4. I get what you mean though and I’m not against the shows going with a more episodic format either and we used to have that with ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ with the whole monster of the week thing but they still had a main villain to face at the end like with the first season it was The Master, the second season it was Angelus, the third it was the Mayor and so on but they also had other villains like Spike and Dru who played a large part in Season 2 and Faith when she turned bad.
It would be nice if we could see some of these shows do something similar to that in my opinion and have a main villain like Angelus they don’t face until the end, two other villains that serve at the lead villains for the first half of the season and a bunch of other villains they face every week and with DC there is no shortage of villains they could use and there are literally thousands of villains we have yet to see on screen that could be used in an episodic format. I think a lot of shows dropped the weekly episodic format after '24' was a success and if you watch some of the behind the scenes features of '24' they talk about how it influenced other shows to change the way they wrote seasons and have them more connected together and there were other shows that were more connected like that before '24' but I think we started getting a lot more after that.
Yeah, the last couple of years AoS has broken up the season into shorter, distinctive arcs; generally the plot from the previous arc feeding into the next one. I remember Clark Gregg describing them as "pods" a few years ago; I think when they initially tried doing like three arcs, but this last season and the previous one were pretty solidly split in half story-wise. It has it's advantages, keeping the pacing tight, but there are times when it seems like the concept of the arc still drags; at least in my opinion. Like I mentioned with SVU though, there's definitely a through-line of different character stories; and they've done a few arcs that kind of span the season, but it's not part of every single episode. And I like that a lot better, the stories of each episode are more engaging, because they have to cut to the chase and tell you some beginning, middle and end to something within that 45-50 minute span of time; even if some threads are left dangling. I think that's a much more effective use of their time and it's more engaging for the audience. I'm actually up to the most recent season and was kind of surprised, in part because I thought Raul Esparza's departure happened much earlier in season 19, but he was there for like half the season; which made the new ADA's arc even more impressive, because they laid some solid ground work for the latter's story that I thought was more spread out over a full season, and actually encompassed in much less time and I had no clue. It was very well paced and subtle. I'd attribute at least some of the trend of shows becoming more serial on Buffy; particularly those shows with a season long "big bad," which Buffy at least popularized if not outright invented. Though admittedly other shows were beginning to experiment with a more serial format around that time; like Deep Space Nine and Battlestar Galactic - both of which were helmed by Ron Moore. When Buffy was at it's best though, I'd say they mastered balancing serial and episodic; and in my opinion the epitome of this was season 3. Season 2 was good, one of my top favorite seasons of Buffy, but as far as I see it season 3 was great and arguably the show's best season. The audience didn't immediately learn who the big bad was until several episodes in, and even then Buffy and the Scoobies don't learn about the Mayor until almost halfway through the season. And when not focused on the Mayor, there are so many great character episodes that takes main characters, and even the odd ancillary character, and puts them more towards the center focus for the episode and adds to that character; episodes like Band Candy giving us some great bits with Joyce and Giles, and even Snyder. They manage the run the full gamut with Faith's character, from introduction, at least partial integration with the core group, her fall from grace and descent into antagonist. Willow and Xander's flirtation. Cordelia's wish. The introduction of Anya. The introduction of Wesley. The Zeppo. Dopplegangland. Earshot. And then everything culminating in the last spat of episodes. It's incredible what they fit into that season; there's really no episode or minute of screen time that gets squandered.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 11:43:52 GMT
They have? I am sadly not up to date with the latest series of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ ‘cause they are not releasing them on DVD anymore and I don’t know why ‘cause all the other shows are getting released on DVD including ‘Marvel’s The Runaways’ and ‘The Gifted’ but the last season of ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ that was released here on DVD was Season 4. I get what you mean though and I’m not against the shows going with a more episodic format either and we used to have that with ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ with the whole monster of the week thing but they still had a main villain to face at the end like with the first season it was The Master, the second season it was Angelus, the third it was the Mayor and so on but they also had other villains like Spike and Dru who played a large part in Season 2 and Faith when she turned bad.
It would be nice if we could see some of these shows do something similar to that in my opinion and have a main villain like Angelus they don’t face until the end, two other villains that serve at the lead villains for the first half of the season and a bunch of other villains they face every week and with DC there is no shortage of villains they could use and there are literally thousands of villains we have yet to see on screen that could be used in an episodic format. I think a lot of shows dropped the weekly episodic format after '24' was a success and if you watch some of the behind the scenes features of '24' they talk about how it influenced other shows to change the way they wrote seasons and have them more connected together and there were other shows that were more connected like that before '24' but I think we started getting a lot more after that.
Yeah, the last couple of years AoS has broken up the season into shorter, distinctive arcs; generally the plot from the previous arc feeding into the next one. I remember Clark Gregg describing them as "pods" a few years ago; I think when they initially tried doing like three arcs, but this last season and the previous one were pretty solidly split in half story-wise. It has it's advantages, keeping the pacing tight, but there are times when it seems like the concept of the arc still drags; at least in my opinion. Like I mentioned with SVU though, there's definitely a through-line of different character stories; and they've done a few arcs that kind of span the season, but it's not part of every single episode. And I like that a lot better, the stories of each episode are more engaging, because they have to cut to the chase and tell you some beginning, middle and end to something within that 45-50 minute span of time; even if some threads are left dangling. I think that's a much more effective use of their time and it's more engaging for the audience. I'm actually up to the most recent season and was kind of surprised, in part because I thought Raul Esparza's departure happened much earlier in season 19, but he was there for like half the season; which made the new ADA's arc even more impressive, because they laid some solid ground work for the latter's story that I thought was more spread out over a full season, and actually encompassed in much less time and I had no clue. It was very well paced and subtle. I'd attribute at least some of the trend of shows becoming more serial on Buffy; particularly those shows with a season long "big bad," which Buffy at least popularized if not outright invented. Though admittedly other shows were beginning to experiment with a more serial format around that time; like Deep Space Nine and Battlestar Galactic - both of which were helmed by Ron Moore. When Buffy was at it's best though, I'd say they mastered balancing serial and episodic; and in my opinion the epitome of this was season 3. Season 2 was good, one of my top favorite seasons of Buffy, but as far as I see it season 3 was great and arguably the show's best season. The audience didn't immediately learn who the big bad was until several episodes in, and even then Buffy and the Scoobies don't learn about the Mayor until almost halfway through the season. And when not focused on the Mayor, there are so many great character episodes that takes main characters, and even the odd ancillary character, and puts them more towards the center focus for the episode and adds to that character; episodes like Band Candy giving us some great bits with Joyce and Giles, and even Snyder. They manage the run the full gamut with Faith's character, from introduction, at least partial integration with the core group, her fall from grace and descent into antagonist. Willow and Xander's flirtation. Cordelia's wish. The introduction of Anya. The introduction of Wesley. The Zeppo. Dopplegangland. Earshot. And then everything culminating in the last spat of episodes. It's incredible what they fit into that season; there's really no episode or minute of screen time that gets squandered. Okay. Thanks for letting me know about that Stargazer1682. I am rather annoyed ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ hasn’t been released on DVD for so long ‘cause we watched it for the first four seasons and I was looking forward to seeing Season 5 and then Channel 7 moved it to the ‘7Flicks’ channel which is not on Foxtel and we couldn’t watch it ‘cause there were all these other TV shows we were watching that night and I thought it would be better to wait until it came out on DVD ‘cause then we would be able to watch the full season in a row without any ads but then they didn’t release it and it makes no sense to me why they just suddenly stopped ‘cause they release all of the other Marvel TV shows on DVD here including the Netflix shows like ‘Daredevil’ and ‘Jessica Jones’ and the only explanation that I can think of is the DVDs weren’t selling as well as the other Marvel TV shows.
I am looking out to see if Channel 7 repeat the seasons we missed on 7Two ‘cause they repeat shows on that channel and were repeating ‘Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD’ at one point but they only repeated it up until the final episode of Season Four and stopped. Hopefully they release it here one day so we can watch the later seasons ‘cause I have heard from other people they are supposed to be good but there are a number of shows that have gone for years in America we don’t get here now and I would say we get less American TV shows on free to air than we used to. I get what you are saying with the shows though and I think more shows need to focus on the individual episodes than viewing them as a season and that is really where the problem you are talking about lies and with shows like ‘Arrow’, ‘The Flash’ and ‘Supergirl’ I feel they are just viewing episodes as part of seasons than episodes of their own.
When you look at some TV shows such as ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ that didn’t do this they had far more memorable episodes in my opinion and you could remember them individually and their titles but when you have every episode continuing on to each other instead of telling stories of their own it makes them less memorable unless something important that really stood out happened in them and it is just a slow build to the end. The latest season of ‘The Flash’ was a good example of this and how many episodes did we get where Barry was beaten by DeVoe or thought he had something that was going to stop him only for it to blow up in his face? It did have some episodes where Barry faced other villains like Trollstar and Hyrax and we had the rest of Team Flash facing the Trickster’s son and his Mother but for the most part the season was just about building up DeVoe until Barry faced him at the end.
I don’t know if the writers of ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ created the season big bad or not but I don’t seem to recall it being something in any shows before that and a lot of people have said they invited the ‘villain of the week’ concept but I think that originated in comic books and if you look back at the old ‘Spider-Man’ comics for example a lot of issues had Spider-Man vs the Lizard’ Spider-Man vs The Green Goblin’, ‘Spider-Man vs Doctor Octopus’ and ‘Spider-Man vs Mysterio’ for example and every issue there was a different villain Spider-Man would face and it was the same with Batman.
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Post by BexxyJ on Sept 21, 2018 7:52:44 GMT
Where is Amy Jackson this season? Why is there no official comfirmation about her status in the show? This is not on. Not happy Jan. Amy said on one of her social networking accounts she is going to be back again this season but from the looks of things she is definitely not going to be a regular and it might only be for 2 or 3 episodes. Looking back at those pictures she shared of herself with blonde hair that were taken when she was filming something Saturn Girl might actually have blonde hair when she returns. WTF? She’s only going to be in 2 or 3 episodes? Are they serious? Why are they punishing her fans like this? There are people who only watch the show to see her. If this show loses ratings this season we’re gonna know why. We'll kick them where it hurts.
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 21, 2018 10:55:52 GMT
We'll kick them where it hurts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:51:38 GMT
Amy said on one of her social networking accounts she is going to be back again this season but from the looks of things she is definitely not going to be a regular and it might only be for 2 or 3 episodes. Looking back at those pictures she shared of herself with blonde hair that were taken when she was filming something Saturn Girl might actually have blonde hair when she returns. WTF? She’s only going to be in 2 or 3 episodes? Are they serious? Why are they punishing her fans like this? There are people who only watch the show to see her. If this show loses ratings this season we’re gonna know why. We'll kick them where it hurts. Sadly, I am not even sure if she is going to be in that now. All I know is she is going to be appearing in the next season at some point and they are keeping a tight lid on any of the details. There are supposed to be some other returning characters this season too and we already know Lynda Carter's character is one of them and it is possible we might see somebody like Jeremiah return who hasn't been seen for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:53:44 GMT
I didn't realise animation had such a fascination with penises. I am surprised they got away with doing some of those.
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 2, 2018 15:47:38 GMT
Well adults animation can get away with a lot more then children's animation and a lot of adult animators have a fascination with groin attacks.
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Post by dazz on Oct 3, 2018 0:37:37 GMT
Well you think animation can get away with far more than live action anyway, you then put that into an adult comedy situation and there's little they cant get away with.
I mean look at Family Guy would any live action TV show or movie be able to get away with bestiality even with a sentient animal? probably not, Family Guy has it as a running joke, same for the sexualisation of toddlers, I mean that show is just weird as shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 12:53:52 GMT
Well you think animation can get away with far more than live action anyway, you then put that into an adult comedy situation and there's little they cant get away with. I mean look at Family Guy would any live action TV show or movie be able to get away with bestiality even with a sentient animal? probably not, Family Guy has it as a running joke, same for the sexualisation of toddlers, I mean that show is just weird as shit. I have never seen 'Family Guy' but I have seen some animated TV shows like 'South Park' that were able to get away with doing a lot more than other shows did especially 'The Simpsons' and I don't know if it was the same in the UK but 'South Park' was very controversial here when it first started and they were saying and doing a lot of things nobody had done at the time. I remember seeing the episode where Cartman had a satellite dish come out of his backside and I couldn't believe they did that at the time. Then there was the movie that had a song called 'Uncle Fucker' and one of my friends loved that song and played it all the time and it said something along the lines of "you don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn, you just fuck your Uncle all day long" and they had the talking Christmas poo.
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 18, 2018 16:33:49 GMT
And let's not forget South Park's version of a heart warming Christmas special.
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