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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 24, 2018 22:11:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 13:56:28 GMT
I know of the character, Dream Girl from the comic books and I think it is nice to see a Transgender actress getting to play a superhero 'cause it will give a lot of young transgender people their own superhero to look up to but let's hope they don't depower and make them into somebody's love interest like they did with Saturn Girl 'cause as much as I like Amy Jackson the writers really let us down with their adaption of Imra and should have done so much more with her than had her as 'the other woman.' 
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 25, 2018 15:53:46 GMT
Well, since Dreamy and Brainy had a history in the comics, that's probably exactly what will happen; especially if they do test the waters with Brainy and Kara.
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Post by dazz on Jul 26, 2018 3:28:10 GMT
Cool, like Deb said this should be a positive thing for young transgender people out there, but I will say I doubt quality will mean shit, Deb you pointed it out last year I think how much the Alex/Maggie story impacted atleast one young girl, and that storyline was handled with the grace and style of a wet fart after a curry, so long as ultimately the character is done in a positive light quality will likely not be an issue.
despite my sarcastic shitheadedry im glad Supergirl is going to do this, it can only be a positive thing imo, not only for having the character but for who they got to play them, well done CW.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jul 26, 2018 10:10:42 GMT
It's good Supergirl is doing this, but I am a little apprehensive as they don't handle serious subjects the best. But as long as one person comes away with something positive then I'm all for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 12:44:57 GMT
Well, since Dreamy and Brainy had a history in the comics, that's probably exactly what will happen; especially if they do test the waters with Brainy and Kara.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 12:52:58 GMT
Cool, like Deb said this should be a positive thing for young transgender people out there, but I will say I doubt quality will mean shit, Deb you pointed it out last year I think how much the Alex/Maggie story impacted atleast one young girl, and that storyline was handled with the grace and style of a wet fart after a curry, so long as ultimately the character is done in a positive light quality will likely not be an issue. despite my sarcastic shitheadedry im glad Supergirl is going to do this, it can only be a positive thing imo, not only for having the character but for who they got to play them, well done CW.  |
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Post by dazz on Jul 31, 2018 13:33:47 GMT
Cool, like Deb said this should be a positive thing for young transgender people out there, but I will say I doubt quality will mean shit, Deb you pointed it out last year I think how much the Alex/Maggie story impacted atleast one young girl, and that storyline was handled with the grace and style of a wet fart after a curry, so long as ultimately the character is done in a positive light quality will likely not be an issue. despite my sarcastic shitheadedry im glad Supergirl is going to do this, it can only be a positive thing imo, not only for having the character but for who they got to play them, well done CW. I think every generation needs it is the thing and not needs just gay or lesbian, bi or what have you characters but those coming out stories, we had them in the 90's with shows like Dawnsons Creek, Buffy and that but that was 20 years ago, I think what some of us don't think about is not only should gay characters be on shows but especially if your audience skews younger you need coming out stories, having gay characters is great but I don't know how well just having already established gay men or lesbian ladies helps with people who have yet to come to term with who they are.
So long as they don't make a joke out of the character I think it will be fine, just don't expect high calibre storytelling, this is Supergirl afterall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 11:50:55 GMT
Yeah. Quality doesn't always mean everything 'cause one person's version of a quality storyline could be seen as garbage to many others and there were a lot of fans of Alex and Maggie and they not only impacted that one young girl I posted an article about but a lot of other teenage girls who shared similar stories. While I wasn't personally a big fan of the Alex and Maggie pairing I thought it was great we had a lesbian couple in the show and I can see why it was so impactful on them 'cause we didn't have representation like that here when we were kids and we saw more people using the word 'dyke' as an insult to single hetero female characters in movies 'cause they didn't have boyfriends than positive representations of lesbian characters. I am hoping they do justice with this though and am happy for the transgender people who watch 'Supergirl.' I think every generation needs it is the thing and not needs just gay or lesbian, bi or what have you characters but those coming out stories, we had them in the 90's with shows like Dawnsons Creek, Buffy and that but that was 20 years ago, I think what some of us don't think about is not only should gay characters be on shows but especially if your audience skews younger you need coming out stories, having gay characters is great but I don't know how well just having already established gay men or lesbian ladies helps with people who have yet to come to term with who they are.
So long as they don't make a joke out of the character I think it will be fine, just don't expect high calibre storytelling, this is Supergirl afterall.
The main problem with homophobia and transphobia in my opinion is we have far less homophobes and transphobes than we had before but the ones that we have remaining have become more vocal than they were before and are using the anonymity of the internet to air their hate everywhere and attack us and it is sadly the same with racists online and some comment sections of articles about movies with people of colour as leads look like they are a KKK meeting with the amount of hate they are writing.  |
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Post by dazz on Aug 10, 2018 13:01:24 GMT
I think every generation needs it is the thing and not needs just gay or lesbian, bi or what have you characters but those coming out stories, we had them in the 90's with shows like Dawnsons Creek, Buffy and that but that was 20 years ago, I think what some of us don't think about is not only should gay characters be on shows but especially if your audience skews younger you need coming out stories, having gay characters is great but I don't know how well just having already established gay men or lesbian ladies helps with people who have yet to come to term with who they are.
So long as they don't make a joke out of the character I think it will be fine, just don't expect high calibre storytelling, this is Supergirl afterall.
The main problem with homophobia and transphobia in my opinion is we have far less homophobes and transphobes than we had before but the ones that we have remaining have become more vocal than they were before and are using the anonymity of the internet to air their hate everywhere and attack us and it is sadly the same with racists online and some comment sections of articles about movies with people of colour as leads look like they are a KKK meeting with the amount of hate they are writing. I think the issue is people just don't get things for the most part unless they have experienced it, and they assume progress means we fixed everything, and we haven't, equality isn't a quick fix it's an ongoing process, were also not so far removed from the old guard to where those old fashioned and idiotic thinking people are no longer around.
Also the idea that I as a straight guy because I don't see the flagrant homophobia or transphobia shown to people of the LGBT community by admittedly a now sizeably smaller group of intolerant fuck knuckles is silly, because I am not part of either of those communities, but just because I don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, also just because it happens less doesn't mean it's gone away entirely, and it's a case of for some people they can go through life being gay, lesbian or transgender and not have to endure that crap, but there are other people who all they get is bombarded with that shit, which as is sadly clear has been the case for you, even though that's just not fair on a karma level because you are such a nice person.
God people being fuckheads really pisses me off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:45:33 GMT
I completely agree with you here Dazz and a lot of people who are against LGBT representation don’t actually realise just how important it is to have these characters appearing in positive roles in movies and TV shows or they realise it but like the homophobes that ruined the ‘Supergirl’ IMDB board they didn’t want us having any LGBT characters at all ‘cause of their hatred for us. It was extremely ironic how some of them were trying to make out we don’t face any discrimination but they used the Alex and Maggie relationship to launch an attack on all of us and spread hate everywhere and when they say we don’t need LGBT representation in movies and TV shows their behaviour shows the opposite and it is young people who need it most of all ‘cause many of them have to deal with people like that on a day to day basis on the internet and some of them take their own lives ‘cause they can’t handle the bullying and discrimination they face. Not to mention some of them still have to put up with having homophobic parents like Beccy and I did who will never accept them for who they really are and it is sad that still happens now but having characters in movies and TV shows shows those children there are other LGBT people out there and they are there is nothing wrong with them.
The main problem with homophobia and transphobia in my opinion is we have far less homophobes and transphobes than we had before but the ones that we have remaining have become more vocal than they were before and are using the anonymity of the internet to air their hate everywhere and attack us and it is sadly the same with racists online and some comment sections of articles about movies with people of colour as leads look like they are a KKK meeting with the amount of hate they are writing. I think the issue is people just don't get things for the most part unless they have experienced it, and they assume progress means we fixed everything, and we haven't, equality isn't a quick fix it's an ongoing process, were also not so far removed from the old guard to where those old fashioned and idiotic thinking people are no longer around.
Also the idea that I as a straight guy because I don't see the flagrant homophobia or transphobia shown to people of the LGBT community by admittedly a now sizeably smaller group of intolerant fuck knuckles is silly, because I am not part of either of those communities, but just because I don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, also just because it happens less doesn't mean it's gone away entirely, and it's a case of for some people they can go through life being gay, lesbian or transgender and not have to endure that crap, but there are other people who all they get is bombarded with that shit, which as is sadly clear has been the case for you, even though that's just not fair on a karma level because you are such a nice person.
God people being fuckheads really pisses me off.
What is pathetic is they are jealous there are people who support us and acknowledge the things that we have faced in the past which is why they are now trying to say we have always had it easier than everybody else and we just made up decades of discrimination to take away their religious freedoms.  
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Post by General Kenobi on Aug 23, 2018 14:14:15 GMT
I love people who use freedom of speech or freedom of religion to justify being an asshole. Because of them don't actually care about either freedom of religion or freedom of speech. They only care about their right to treat everyone like shit and have a meltdown if you use those freedoms to stand up for others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:01:41 GMT
I love people who use freedom of speech or freedom of religion to justify being an asshole. Because of them don't actually care about either freedom of religion or freedom of speech. They only care about their right to treat everyone like shit and have a meltdown if you use those freedoms to stand up for others.
Yeah. They are by far some of the worst hypocrites of all and I don't think some of them even really care about the religion they are a part of and only use 'freedom of religion' to discriminate against people they don't like 'cause other people are always pointing out parts of the bible they don't follow including parts that are sins but I think they have their own religion and it is a religion where they can choose the things they want to believe and ignore the rest.  |
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Post by BexxyJ on Sept 11, 2018 7:36:07 GMT
I love people who use freedom of speech or freedom of religion to justify being an asshole. Because of them don't actually care about either freedom of religion or freedom of speech. They only care about their right to treat everyone like shit and have a meltdown if you use those freedoms to stand up for others.
Yeah. They are by far some of the worst hypocrites of all and I don't think some of them even really care about the religion they are a part of and only use 'freedom of religion' to discriminate against people they don't like 'cause other people are always pointing out parts of the bible they don't follow including parts that are sins but I think they have their own religion and it is a religion where they can choose the things they want to believe and ignore the rest. What is this freedom of religion of religion bullshit and where did this entitled attitude come from? It is not freedom when they are trying to force their religious beliefs on us and take away our freedom. What makes them so special they think the world should revolve around them? WTF? People get dumber all the time.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 11, 2018 18:22:39 GMT
Freedom of religion was supposed to allow people to practice whatever they believe, or don't believe, without interference from the government. But conservatives have used it to justify bigotry against anyone who is not a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, fundamentalist evangelical Christian.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:07:05 GMT
Yeah. They are by far some of the worst hypocrites of all and I don't think some of them even really care about the religion they are a part of and only use 'freedom of religion' to discriminate against people they don't like 'cause other people are always pointing out parts of the bible they don't follow including parts that are sins but I think they have their own religion and it is a religion where they can choose the things they want to believe and ignore the rest. What is this freedom of religion of religion bullshit and where did this entitled attitude come from? It is not freedom when they are trying to force their religious beliefs on us and take away our freedom. What makes them so special they think the world should revolve around them? WTF? People get dumber all the time. Freedom of religion was supposed to allow people to practice whatever they believe, or don't believe, without interference from the government. But conservatives have used it to justify bigotry against anyone who is not a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, fundamentalist evangelical Christian.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 28, 2018 18:56:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 12:16:42 GMT
What did everybody think of Nicole Maines' character, Nia Nal (Dream Girl) on the first episode of the new season of 'Supergirl' this week? I have to say she seems very much like Kara did in the first season and it is almost like they have two actresses playing the same character but I am wondering if that is an act to cover up that she is an alien and if she is there for some important reason and knows Kara is Supergirl.  Nicole Maines tweets about her debut as first transgender superhero
abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/nicole-maines-tweets-debut-transgender-superhero/story?id=58508348
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 18, 2018 16:44:51 GMT
Uh, I haven't seen the episode. I'll confess. I am the odd man out here in that I will be discussing on these boards without watching any of the shows. They burned me out and I just had to get away. For my own piece of mind.
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