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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 21, 2017 3:09:36 GMT
If you're reading the subject line and sighing because it sounds like a very WB thing to do for a cash grab, then you're probably onto something. But R-rated movies like Deadpool and Logan were both gambles that paid off in a huge way. R-ratings don't spell success and it doesn't mean that DC can dig themselves out of the massive hole they dug with Suicide Squad.
DC started good enough with Man of Steel and even those who hated BvS agreed that it wasn't the death of the DCEU. Suicide Squad is one of the most disappointing movies I've ever seen and should simply be forgotten. The solo Batman movies can put whatever failure that WB has created and turn it into success.
With rumors of a trilogy, would you be opposed to the final installment being rated R? Or all three? I think it could help add some much-needed emotion to the DCEU, but I could be wrong. Anyway, leave your opinion on an R-rated Batman movie. I'm still split.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 21, 2017 5:21:26 GMT
batman is a bit on the kid friendly side of things, so that's unlikely, possible, but unlikely. but something like SS2 yeah sure.
i'd be curious to see an R rated batman film (BvS UC doesn't count.....that was barely an R, remove a bloodsplatter or two, or cut away a millisecond earlier, and it's pg13)
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 21, 2017 5:30:42 GMT
If you're reading the subject line and sighing because it sounds like a very WB thing to do for a cash grab, then you're probably onto something. But R-rated movies like Deadpool and Logan were both gambles that paid off in a huge way. R-ratings don't spell success and it doesn't mean that DC can dig themselves out of the massive whole they dug with Suicide Squad. DC started good enough with Man of Steel and even those who hated BvS agreed that it wasn't the death of the DCEU. Suicide Squad is one of the most disappointing movies I've ever seen and should simply be forgotten. The solo Batman movies can put whatever failure that WB has created and turn it into success. With rumors of a trilogy, would you be opposed to the final installment being rated R? Or all three? I think it could help add some much-needed emotion to the DCEU, but I could be wrong. Anyway, leave your opinion on an R-rated Batman movie. I'm still split. What are the rumors beyond just a three-movie series? Is Affleck still attached to play Bruce? |
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Post by chatterer on Mar 21, 2017 7:19:50 GMT
batman is a bit on the kid friendly side of things, so that's unlikely, possible, but unlikely. but something like SS2 yeah sure. i'd be curious to see an R rated batman film (BvS UC doesn't count.....that was barely an R, remove a bloodsplatter or two, or cut away a millisecond earlier, and it's pg13)
Suicide Squad 2 would work as a R. Personally I think a Lobo movie would be ideal if they ever make one. |
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Post by politicidal on Mar 21, 2017 13:42:30 GMT
batman is a bit on the kid friendly side of things, so that's unlikely, possible, but unlikely. but something like SS2 yeah sure. i'd be curious to see an R rated batman film (BvS UC doesn't count.....that was barely an R, remove a bloodsplatter or two, or cut away a millisecond earlier, and it's pg13)
Something like Suicide Squad 2 or Justice League Dark would benefit from an R rating if WB is really serious. Now if I were to make a Batman movie that was R rated but still wanted kids to see it, I'd aim for something like Die Hard (yes I consider that a kids movie). |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 21, 2017 20:25:54 GMT
If you're reading the subject line and sighing because it sounds like a very WB thing to do for a cash grab, then you're probably onto something. But R-rated movies like Deadpool and Logan were both gambles that paid off in a huge way. R-ratings don't spell success and it doesn't mean that DC can dig themselves out of the massive whole they dug with Suicide Squad. DC started good enough with Man of Steel and even those who hated BvS agreed that it wasn't the death of the DCEU. Suicide Squad is one of the most disappointing movies I've ever seen and should simply be forgotten. The solo Batman movies can put whatever failure that WB has created and turn it into success. With rumors of a trilogy, would you be opposed to the final installment being rated R? Or all three? I think it could help add some much-needed emotion to the DCEU, but I could be wrong. Anyway, leave your opinion on an R-rated Batman movie. I'm still split. What are the rumors beyond just a three-movie series? Is Affleck still attached to play Bruce? Affleck is still Batman for now, but rumors suggest he could move on before the DC universe is over. I find that to be highly unlikely, but it's DC; they find ways to complicate everything. Other than that, the only other rumor is that the first movie could be like Die Hard in Arkham Asylum (like the video game Batman: Arkham Asylum). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:46:31 GMT
Because Warner Bros refuses to learn the lesson Lego Batman taught.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 22:50:12 GMT
Because Warner Bros refuses to learn the lesson Lego Batman taught. That they should make fun of the character whenever possible, and have the Joker rubbing his rear on the Batmobile? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:53:22 GMT
No, that Batman doesn't need to always be approached from a super grimdark angle, that there IS a place for light and even a sense of humor in a Batman film, oh, and the Bat Family CAN work on the big screen. Nice to know you're not able to read between the lines, but then again, I already knew that about you.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:02:12 GMT
No, that Batman doesn't need to always be approached from a super grimdark angle, that there IS a place for light and even a sense of humor in a Batman film, oh, and the Bat Family CAN work on the big screen. Nice to know you're not able to read between the lines, but then again, I already knew that about you. All of the Batman films have had some moments of levity, including BvS. Suggesting that they should be more like the Lego version of Batman would be going too far into the other direction, considering that particular film was a straight up parody of the character. By the way, ever heard of 'Return of the Caped Crusaders', or the current Justice League cartoon, or even the comments made about the upcoming JL movie? P.S., go fuck yourself. You're an MCU troll, and we both know that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 23:05:23 GMT
Show where I said they had to go all the way in the same direction as Lego Batman. Show me. I said approaching Batman with a sense of humor would be healthy for the franchise at this point. Neither the current cartoon nor Return of the Caped Crusaders are the current mainstream cinematic adaptations of the character. The upcoming JL film is going to suck, as all things directed by Hack Snyder do.
No, you go fuck yourself. You have no standards and just accept whatever jingling keys WB throws at you.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:10:43 GMT
First off, you were the one who brought up The Lego Batman Movie in the first place. Legit is fine, but that doesn't mean they need to follow the example of a straight-up parody off the franchise.
And no, I don't accept "whatever jingling keys WB throws at me". I didn't think BvS was a good movie, and I had an even lower opinion of SS. But hey, since I don't spend my times worshipping the MCU, or arguing against the crappy reviews of Iron Fist, I guess that makes you think otherwise.
So yeah, you fuck yourself, and your half-assed conspiracy theories about Jason Momoa being cast as Aquaman in order one-up Marvel...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 23:23:38 GMT
All I was suggesting was that not every Post-1989 Batman film needs to be a trip down Depression Avenue. Good God, you'll just argue with anything I say for whatever petty reason. Yes, heaven forbid Batman EVER be approached with the mindset that its audience might want to have some fun or walk out of the theater feeling better than when they went in. I know I certainly want every Batman film to end with The Joker winning or Batman faking his own death to run off with the woman who ruined his life.
If you don't think Warner has been producing good DC content, then just back the hell off. Your input is unwanted and unnecessary.
So, yeah, you fuck yourself and your inability to see one company used under-handed methods to one up the other. Have fun with those jingling car keys.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:28:43 GMT
I'm fairly certain that Batman Forever and Batman & Robin weren't a "trip down Depression Avenue", but of course you'd be selective here...
Also, I don't recall the Joker winning at the end of TDK. His plan was to drive he people of Gotham insane in order to prove a point, and he ultimately failed. The people on the boats didn't kill each other, and the people didn't find out about Dent's crimes. What's more, the ending to TDKR was specifically written to be a happy one, hence why it didn't kill of Bruce, and had him finally moving on from being Batman.
Also, back the hell off? So I'm not allowed to discuss these films in a remotely optimistic way? I have to be a stuck-up troll like you? Once again, go fuck yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 23:33:11 GMT
The Joker DID win at the end of TDK. He forced Batman and Commissioner Gordon to lie to the people, compromising everything they stood behind closed doors. It may not have been a total win, and the lie was exposed by the next film.
Gotham lied in shambles at the end of The Dark Knight Rises and Bruce runs off to Europe to sip wine while people suffer at the height of the recession. Yep. Happy ending.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:36:35 GMT
They didn't compromise everything they stood for. They had to suffer a big loss, but the whole point was ultimately preventing the Joker from winning.
Also, the ending to TDKR seemed to imply that the city was recovering from the incident with Bane. That was why Gordon and Blake were having their conversation at the end about how Batman saved Gotham. If anything, that film had the most optimistic ending of the entire trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 23:38:51 GMT
And one politician going bad was going to cause them to lose? Please, I live in Chicago. There's plenty of crime here and I promise we wouldn't give up on hope for a better tomorrow because one White Knight DA went nuts.
Yeah, because a city can just rebuild itself in the middle of a nationwide financial crisis. Color me skeptical.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:43:37 GMT
One politician going bad was going to risk freeing all the criminals Dent put away, and Gotham would've ultimately lost its biggest hero. It probably wouldn't have caused the citizens to go completely bonkers, but it would've been seen as a pretty big loss for the city.
A city can eventually rebuild itself from many things. We can assume that Gotham likely received help from the U.S. Government in order to help recover from the massive terrorist threat. It certainly wouldn't be an instant process, but that's why people like Gordon, Alfred, Fox, and Blake were there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 23:47:35 GMT
Annnnnnd in the third film, going to the trouble of keeping all of those criminals in prison ended up amounting to nothing. So...
I'm only seeing Detroit under another name resulting from this.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 21, 2017 23:51:50 GMT
Those criminals that were put away thanks to Dent were specifically shown being freed by Bane, only to get arrested once again in the aftermath of the film.
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