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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 28, 2017 1:29:22 GMT
I do doubt it. The journey is just as important as the destination. Even without their deaths, it's a well crafted story with powerful moments. Without Xavier accidentally killing the X-Men, getting killed and then Logan himself dying against his younger clone....it would've gotten the same reception as The Wolverine. So, without a killer third act, the film would have been received less positively? Except it did have a killer third act? So... Welp, thanks for stopping by.  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 28, 2017 2:13:54 GMT
Without Xavier accidentally killing the X-Men, getting killed and then Logan himself dying against his younger clone....it would've gotten the same reception as The Wolverine. So, without a killer third act, the film would have been received less positively? Except it did have a killer third act? So... Welp, thanks for stopping by. If by killer, you mean "predictable kill everyone except the obvious legacy character"...then yes. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 28, 2017 3:11:14 GMT
So, without a killer third act, the film would have been received less positively? Except it did have a killer third act? So... Welp, thanks for stopping by. If by killer, you mean "predictable kill everyone except the obvious legacy character"...then yes. Nah, I mean -- universally acclaimed and successful. |
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Post by miike80 on Mar 28, 2017 6:54:24 GMT
I like it when people start making up motives for critics liking movies that they don't. Logan is a great movie, a modern western and the critics are right for liking it
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Post by miike80 on Mar 28, 2017 6:55:33 GMT
So, without a killer third act, the film would have been received less positively? Except it did have a killer third act? So... Welp, thanks for stopping by. If by killer, you mean "predictable kill everyone except the obvious legacy character"...then yes. As opposed to the shock endings to MCU movies? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 28, 2017 10:07:50 GMT
If by killer, you mean "predictable kill everyone except the obvious legacy character"...then yes. As opposed to the shock endings to MCU movies? Shock endings? I mean, I understand some audiences were expecting Civil War to kill off 99% of the MCU in some bloodbath but that wasn't happening when they still have stories to tell. And they aren't going to be lazy about their timeline the way Logan was. |
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Post by miike80 on Mar 28, 2017 10:41:27 GMT
As opposed to the shock endings to MCU movies? Shock endings? I mean, I understand some audiences were expecting Civil War to kill off 99% of the MCU in some bloodbath but that wasn't happening when they still have stories to tell. And they aren't going to be lazy about their timeline the way Logan was. I was just saying they are just as predictable.just that Logan is a little better than most . |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 28, 2017 13:08:42 GMT
I do doubt it. The journey is just as important as the destination. Even without their deaths, it's a well crafted story with powerful moments. Without Xavier accidentally killing the X-Men, getting killed and then Logan himself dying against his younger clone....it would've gotten the same reception as The Wolverine. So then because of the story it was better? That's pretty much what I've been saying. Like I said, the journey to get to the ending is why it is was also acclaimed. Not just because of the deaths. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 28, 2017 17:10:09 GMT
Without Xavier accidentally killing the X-Men, getting killed and then Logan himself dying against his younger clone....it would've gotten the same reception as The Wolverine. So then because of the story it was better? That's pretty much what I've been saying. Like I said, the journey to get to the ending is why it is was also acclaimed. Not just because of the deaths. The story wouldn't work without the deaths, though. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 28, 2017 18:32:41 GMT
Well, if you take out plot elements from any story, they won't work. That's like saying if you take out the ring being destroyed in Lord of the Rings, the story doesn't work.
It's not just about one element. A story is a combination of elements.
In any case, the story would still work without their deaths. We'd just lose some of the themes.
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