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Post by scabab on Aug 9, 2018 6:01:26 GMT
Well if I'm being specific we'll say from this December to next December. That's going to be a 12 month period where for the first time we will get three DCEU movies. Aquaman, Shazam and Wonder Woman 1984. It's no secret that DC has not done well so far, they've seriously made a mess of everything and are on the verge of collapse but maybe just maybe next year it can rebound. Aquaman looks good, doesn't mean that it will be because so did Batman vs Superman but there's hope for it.
Wonder Woman was good and they've got the same people working on the sequel so chances are good for that too though it's not a given because it didn't stop X-men Apocalypse from being a disappointment.
And then there's Shazam, I have no idea how that will turn out but it looks very different and that could work for it in the same way it worked for Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool which also seemed up in the air until they came out.
I would hope so.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 6:03:30 GMT
Well if I'm being specific we'll say from this December to next December. That's going to be a 12 month period where for the first time we will get three DCEU movies. Aquaman, Shazam and Wonder Woman 1984. It's no secret that DC has not done well so far, they've seriously made a mess of everything and are on the verge of collapse but maybe just maybe next year it can rebound. Aquaman looks good, doesn't mean that it will be because so did Batman vs Superman but there's hope for it.
Wonder Woman was good and they've got the same people working on the sequel so chances are good for that too though it's not a given because it didn't stop X-men Apocalypse from being a disappointment.
And then there's Shazam, I have no idea how that will turn out but it looks very different and that could work for it in the same way it worked for Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool which also seemed up in the air until they came out.
I would hope so.
There's also Joaquim Pheonix's Joker movie in October 2019.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 9, 2018 6:08:40 GMT
I have hopes Aquaman will be good since it was directed by James Wan and I enjoyed all of his movies (Furious 7 not so much, but I don’t like the franchise, so not his fault).
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Post by sostie on Aug 9, 2018 11:47:59 GMT
Well I don't think any will massivley flop commercially.
Not expecting much from Aquaman, not looking so good from the trailer. If Wan's previous experience of big budget blockbusters are anything to go by, he may need to draft in Jason Statham to save it, because he was the only thing that made FF7 watchable
Wonder Woman 1984 might get close to it's previous domestic haul, but I think it will be met with general audience indifference again in most of the rest of the world. Not sure JL has helped her (or Aquaman's) cause much.
Shazam I have high hopes for but think it's likely to be one end of the quality spectrum...great or abysmal.
I might be in for a surprise...I have such low expectations for DCEU films now, it may provide me with some surprises.
It's pretty safe to say none will do as well as Avengers 4
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 9, 2018 13:19:02 GMT
Probably.
Although to be honest the only one I'm really looking forward to is the Joker movie.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 9, 2018 14:09:50 GMT
We'll have to wait and see-again. I mean, it was supposed to had already happened last year.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 9, 2018 17:21:07 GMT
Wonder Woman 2: 86% on Rotten Tomatoes Shazam: 37% on Rotten Tomatoes Aquaman 44% on Rotten Tomatoes That's my prediction for DC next year. Maybe James Gunn can save them from mediocrity in the coming years.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 9, 2018 17:24:54 GMT
Wonder Woman 2: 86% on Rotten Tomatoes Shazam: 37% on Rotten Tomatoes Aquaman 44% on Rotten Tomatoes That's my prediction for DC next year. Maybe James Gunn can save them from mediocrity in the coming years. I can't wait for Hal Jordan to swap bodies with Star Sapphire and be all like "I can look at myself naked!" Joking aside, James Gunn should just stick to smaller films for a while.
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Post by scabab on Aug 9, 2018 17:25:57 GMT
We'll have to wait and see-again. I mean, it was supposed to had already happened last year. Well...it half did.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 9, 2018 17:27:20 GMT
We'll have to wait and see-again. I mean, it was supposed to had already happened last year. Well...it half did. Perhaps but the other half has put everything not Wonder Woman in a precarious position.
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Post by sostie on Aug 10, 2018 0:49:09 GMT
We'll have to wait and see-again. I mean, it was supposed to had already happened last year. Well...it half did. Yet as a Box Office draw even their best couldn't beat every MCU film last year. And "on paper" JL should have beaten every Marvel film and WW last year
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Post by scabab on Aug 10, 2018 1:17:32 GMT
Well it doesn't have to beat Marvel to be a success.
Technically it's not a competition and afterall it was more profitable than any of the Marvel movies last year anyway.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 10, 2018 1:44:30 GMT
Yet as a Box Office draw even their best couldn't beat every MCU film last year. And "on paper" JL should have beaten every Marvel film and WW last year WW not making as much worldwide as the MCU films from last year isn’t a surprise. Marvel has much more brand recognition overseas than DC does, and considering that it was Wonder Woman’s first film, it’s not surprising that the movie didn’t make as much overseas as the sixth Spider-Man movie, the third Thor movie, or even the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie still had the best multiplier for any film to open at over $100 million, which is a pretty good achievement.
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Post by sostie on Aug 10, 2018 11:17:07 GMT
Yet as a Box Office draw even their best couldn't beat every MCU film last year. And "on paper" JL should have beaten every Marvel film and WW last year WW not making as much worldwide as the MCU films from last year isn’t a surprise. Marvel has much more brand recognition overseas than DC does, and considering that it was Wonder Woman’s first film, it’s not surprising that the movie didn’t make as much overseas as the sixth Spider-Man movie, the third Thor movie, or even the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie still had the best multiplier for any film to open at over $100 million, which is a pretty good achievement. Despite being universally seen as the best thing by far about BvS, and being the first solo outing of one of the top 5 most famous comic book characters ever, it is odd it didn't do well worldwide (or did do so well domestically). A sixth Spider-Man movie, a third Thor movie, and an inferior Guardians of the Galaxy sequel could also be seen by many as competition, for want of a better word, it should be beating. Either way...if it is going to be DCs "year", as last year many thought it would be, they still have to better MCU. They couldn't manage it with what is seen as their best film, and as much as I want DCEU to get better, unless MCU completely drop the ball with Avengers 4, I think with less MCU films, it again won't be DC's year in 2019 either.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 10, 2018 11:23:59 GMT
Well it doesn't have to beat Marvel to be a success. Technically it's not a competition and afterall it was more profitable than any of the Marvel movies last year anyway. What was more profitable?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 10, 2018 13:45:29 GMT
Yet as a Box Office draw even their best couldn't beat every MCU film last year. And "on paper" JL should have beaten every Marvel film and WW last year WW not making as much worldwide as the MCU films from last year isn’t a surprise. Marvel has much more brand recognition overseas than DC does, and considering that it was Wonder Woman’s first film, it’s not surprising that the movie didn’t make as much overseas as the sixth Spider-Man movie, the third Thor movie, or even the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie still had the best multiplier for any film to open at over $100 million, which is a pretty good achievement. apart from that - and more importantly - it was an artistic achievement, a milestone in a notorious manchildren genre that broke an old curse. This was not about squishy raccoon turds, Spiderboys regurgitated or Norse gods crying when getting a haircut. It was a classic and more mature hero's journey not trivializing the horrors of war (of WWI) and entailing a neat arc and character interaction. Only rivaled by Logan.
Who cares whether it made more money or was more or less profitable than some formulaic genre films? Only those that benefit financially (fair), and curiously those who compensate their personal shortcoming with playing fanboy accountant for free. That's who.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 10, 2018 14:17:40 GMT
WW not making as much worldwide as the MCU films from last year isn’t a surprise. Marvel has much more brand recognition overseas than DC does, and considering that it was Wonder Woman’s first film, it’s not surprising that the movie didn’t make as much overseas as the sixth Spider-Man movie, the third Thor movie, or even the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie still had the best multiplier for any film to open at over $100 million, which is a pretty good achievement. Despite being universally seen as the best thing by far about BvS, and being the first solo outing of one of the top 5 most famous comic book characters ever, it is odd it didn't do well worldwide (or did do so well domestically). A sixth Spider-Man movie, a third Thor movie, and an inferior Guardians of the Galaxy sequel could also be seen by many as competition, for want of a better word, it should be beating. Either way...if it is going to be DCs "year", as last year many thought it would be, they still have to better MCU. They couldn't manage it with what is seen as their best film, and as much as I want DCEU to get better, unless MCU completely drop the ball with Avengers 4, I think with less MCU films, it again won't be DC's year in 2019 either. BvS was a movie that people responded very poorly to, and it had terrible legs in places like China.
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Post by scabab on Aug 10, 2018 14:31:30 GMT
What was more profitable? Wonder Woman. It was the sixth most profitable more in 2017 and made $252 million in profit. Then Spider-man, Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy were 7th, 8th and 9th respectively with between $200 million to $154 million profit respectively.
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Post by sostie on Aug 10, 2018 14:58:22 GMT
WW not making as much worldwide as the MCU films from last year isn’t a surprise. Marvel has much more brand recognition overseas than DC does, and considering that it was Wonder Woman’s first film, it’s not surprising that the movie didn’t make as much overseas as the sixth Spider-Man movie, the third Thor movie, or even the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie still had the best multiplier for any film to open at over $100 million, which is a pretty good achievement. apart from that - and more importantly - it was an artistic achievement, a milestone in a notorious manchildren genre that broke an old curse. This was not about squishy raccoon turds, Spiderboys regurgitated or Norse gods crying when getting a haircut. It was a classic and more mature hero's journey not trivializing the horrors of war (of WWI) and entailing a neat arc and character interaction. Only rivaled by Logan.
Who cares whether it made more money or was more or less profitable than some formulaic genre films? Only those that benefit financially (fair), and curiously those who compensate their personal shortcoming with playing fanboy accountant for free. That's who.
With each viewing I wonder if I have seen the same film as everyone else. You are really obsessed with those raccoon turds aren't you. We get it...you didn't find it funny. As for rivaled by by Logan....Wonder Woman wished it was that good. Or maybe those that are trying to show why, despite WW's success, 2017 could not be be called "DC's Year" despite many thinking it would be. One critical and financial success in WW and one critical and financial disaster in JL, compared to 3 critical and financial successes
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Post by scabab on Aug 31, 2019 23:01:58 GMT
So one year on, I don't know if I'd say it was "there year" in particular but a rebound...yeah I think so.
Aquaman received positive years and was their highest grossing movie ever. Shazam got great reviews and was a mild success and now Joker has reviewed great reviews and we'll see how that goes but I expect it'll make a fair bit of money.
On the other hand Wonder Woman 1984 was delayed but otherwise they have sort of been three for three so that's definitely an improvement.
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