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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 13, 2018 4:19:25 GMT
I was aware of the Find Your Fate adventure stories-and have a few of them. Didn't know there were a number of novels, including some published in Germany.
You learn something new every... Wolfgang Hohlbein Published around 1990-94 Indiana Jones and the Plumed Serpent Indiana Jones and the Ship of the Gods Indiana Jones and the Gold of El Dorado Indiana Jones and the Disappeared People Indiana Jones and the Sword of Genghis Khan Indiana Jones and the Labyrinth of Horus Indiana Jones and the Heritage of Avalon
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 13, 2018 8:12:49 GMT
There were also some ones written in the US (heard of them).
Indiana Jones and the Peril at Delphi (Feb 1991) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Dance of the Giants (June 1991) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Seven Veils (Dec 1991) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Genesis Deluge (Feb 1992) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Unicorn's Legacy (Sept 1992) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Interior World (1992) – by Rob Macgregor Indiana Jones and the Sky Pirates (Dec 1993) – by Martin Caidin Indiana Jones and the White Witch (1994) – by Martin Caidin Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone (1995) – by Max McCoy Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs (1996) – by Max McCoy Indiana Jones and the Hollow Earth (1997) – by Max McCoy Indiana Jones and the Secret of the Sphinx (1999) – by Max McCoy Indiana Jones and the Army of the Dead (2009) – by Steve Perry
Young Indiana Jones and the Plantation Treasure (1990) – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Tomb of Terror (1990) – by Les Martin Young Indiana Jones and the Circle of Death (1990) – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Secret City (1990) – by Les Martin Young Indiana Jones and the Princess of Peril (1991) – by Les Martin Young Indiana Jones and the Gypsy Revenge (1991) – by Les Martin Young Indiana Jones and the Ghostly Riders (1991) – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Curse of Ruby Cross – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Titanic Adventure (1993) – by Les Martin Young Indiana Jones and the Lost Gold of Durango (1993) – by Megan Stine and H. William Stine Young Indiana Jones and the Face of the Dragon – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Journey to the Underworld (1994) – by Megan Stine and H. William Stine Young Indiana Jones and the Mountain of Fire (1994) – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Pirates' Loot (1994) – by J.N. Fox Young Indiana Jones and the Eye of the Tiger (1995) – by William McCay Young Indiana Jones and the Mask of the Madman (unpublished) – by Megan Stine and H. William Stine Young Indiana Jones and the Ring of Power (unpublished) – Megan Stine
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Post by politicidal on Aug 15, 2018 14:20:11 GMT
Only read the Philosopher’s Stone. It’s an adequate adventure story.
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 15, 2018 23:53:22 GMT
Coinkydink that you should start this thread—I just ordered Indiana Jones and the Hollow Earth from the library! It’s written by Max McCoy and is the highest rated of the lot at the Raven forum… (Now that I think of it, maybe I should have started with a weaker book, just to have a better one to look forward to? Oh well.) I heard the German ones are really good but have never been published in English—and, as I don’t know German, that doesn’t really help me, for one! I remember all of them in the shop near the Indiana Jones show at Disney World, but I’ve never read any of them. Can chime in with my thoughts on Hollow Earth when I finish it…
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 6, 2018 17:24:43 GMT
Reading Hollow Earth right now. Page 196 of 312. The big problem is that the author, Max McCoy, can’t write his way out of a paper bag; nearly all the sentences are either choppy or logorrheic, the prose is purple, and no one sounds like a real human being.
The characters are cardboard, and worse of all Indiana Jones sounds and acts nothing like Indiana Jones. Put Montana Smith in here and you’ll get the exact same story. McCoy also can’t keep his plot straight: there’s an extended sequence in which Indy tracks down Aztec treasure, in the middle of the book, that has absolutely no relevance to the plot, and a mischaracterized Belloq appears in a shockingly stupid and misconceived duelling scene—mostly just to pad out the pages. In fact, there’s so much padding in here that they could put it in UPS packages in lieu of bubble-wrap.
But! The concept of the adventure, which it has taken 200 pages to get to, is pretty interesting and keeps me reading. There’s also a journal written by some arctic explorer character that held my attention, especially as I once wanted to write an arctic exploration novel myself. All I’m thinking, though, is that if this is the best of the Indy novels, God only knows what the other ones must be like…
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 6, 2018 19:16:43 GMT
Also, politicidal , maybe you can set me straight me on this: is there anywhere in the movies (or Young Indiana Jones) where Indy says he doesn’t smoke? McCoy makes Indy a non-smoking, non-drinking, non-swearing, modern-progressive plaster saint. It’s incredibly obnoxious.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 6, 2018 22:53:45 GMT
Also, politicidal , maybe you can set me straight me on this: is there anywhere in the movies (or Young Indiana Jones) where Indy says he doesn’t smoke? McCoy makes Indy a non-smoking, non-drinking, non-swearing, modern-progressive plaster saint. It’s incredibly obnoxious. Hehehe, I don't recall that at all. He certainly drank and swore alot on film.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 7, 2018 15:28:47 GMT
Also, politicidal , maybe you can set me straight me on this: is there anywhere in the movies (or Young Indiana Jones) where Indy says he doesn’t smoke? McCoy makes Indy a non-smoking, non-drinking, non-swearing, modern-progressive plaster saint. It’s incredibly obnoxious. Hehehe, I don't recall that at all. He certainly drank and swore alot on film. I couldn’t think of an example where he said that either… Anyway, I don’t think Indy says anything worse than one “damn” in this whole damn book. Maybe Sean Connery slapped him for blasphemy right before the events of the story?
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 7, 2018 15:45:31 GMT
Heh, OK, politicidal, I guess Indy’s not smoking bit wasn’t made up by McCoy, so he’s off the hook for that. Someone on the Raven quoted this line in a similar discussion, from the Young Indy “Secret of 1920” (which I haven’t yet seen): But I do remember that Elsa smokes, Marion smokes, Belloq smokes hookah. It’s not a major deal, I just thought McCoy was doing it to make Indy a perfect-by-modern-standards character, which is annoying. (All other criticisms of McCoy still applicable.)
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 11, 2018 19:10:40 GMT
So I finished Hollow Earth and—ehh. I’ll tell you this, it’s a lot better when Indy et al. finally, finally, get to the Arctic. I mean, the writing in these later sections isn’t fantastic, but it’s serviceable, which is all I wanted (and expected). Also, McCoy obviously did a great deal of research on these sections, which definitely shows (he’s got a John Dickson Carr-style “Notes for the Curious” addendum in the back which is more fun to read than the first 3/4 of the book). But the first 3/4 are just dreadful, I’m sorry to say. And McCoy’s Indy is not the movies’ Indy—McCoy’s man is, as I wrote above, a non-drinking, non-smoking, non-cursing, kindly plaster saint, refusing, for example, to sleep with the female lead because he believes in the power of true love. Tell that one to Elsa Schneider. The more I read the book, the more I was convinced that McCoy has never seen an Indiana Jones movie. But the ending’s good. As I told James , I think an arctic setting would work wonderfully for Indiana Jones, and McCoy nicely splits the difference between real and fictional arctic expeditions that could involve his “hollow earth” hypothesis. Speaking of the hollow earth, which is of course the McGuffin, I felt I could never get a really good handle on it—the principle, yes, but not what it did or why Hitler would want it. I also couldn’t quite grasp what differentiates it from Atlantis, or Mu, or Shangri-la, or any other “lost civilization.” It more just seems an excuse to drag Indy into Jules Verne territory, Journey to the Center of the Earth, again without any real reason why. But I like Jules Verne territory, and it was fun to go over that, to have Indy as an arctic explorer spelunking through lost caverns and finding a whole civilization at the end of one! It’s what I expected Fate of Atlantis to be. Other than Indy’s characterization and the writing, though (McCoy just can’t write dialogue), other aspects diminish the quality of the book, in particular an absolutely inexplicable three chapters or so that have Indy searching after a crystal skull in New Mexico. I grasped why Indy is doing it fairly quickly (it’s a recurring subplot in McCoy’s books, apparently) but not why McCoy is doing it. It completely messes up the flow of the book and makes McCoy’s Jones really the most incurious and capricious character possibly in all of fiction. I couldn’t stand the heroine, and the only other female character, apparently Indy’s recurring girlfriend in the McCoy books, is a useless character who pops up as a Nazi, turns her back on the Nazis the moment she sees Indy, and then gets bumped off by the Nazis. Not that McCoy’s Indy feels all that sad about it. So much for that big “true love” bit before. Maybe Indy just doesn’t like the main heroine either? So. It’s not a good book. But it’s a bad book with some really good ideas that could easily be mined for a good Indy book, comic, or screenplay; in that way, it rather reminds me of The Monkey King or The City of the Gods. Not very good, but instructive and interesting. But one major question remains: why didn’t Lucas and pals get actual Indy fans to write these books?
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