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Post by Aj_June on Aug 17, 2018 11:00:18 GMT
Leo of Red KeepThe thing is that sometimes you say some sensible things but then put forward your own ending which seems no less stupid than what masses want. I think some sort of compromise ending with NK could be good. Also, each kingdom is ruled separately and unified Westeros is abandoned may also be pretty good.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 17, 2018 11:22:27 GMT
Leo of Red Keep The thing is that sometimes you say some sensible things but then put forward your own ending which seems no less stupid than what masses want. I think some sort of compromise ending with NK could be good. Also, each kingdom is ruled separately and unified Westeros is abandoned may also be pretty good. And you buy all the fool pleasing nonsense there is on sale. Independence always sounds good to fools until they are shown that it is unification which ended endless wars between kingdoms. Of course, the young dumbfucks who call themselves "liberals" without understanding what it means are for "independence" and "freedom" from fantasised constraints, at least until they are brainwashed into thinking Brexit is an evil thing by the socialistic scum they elect. So you want independent kingdoms on one side but some compromise with the Night King? How consistent. Typical again. "I want to be free from everything and also that everyone be nice to everyone". You sound like a four year old. One day, you might understand that "independence" is just a better job for those who sell the idea to fools. The Night King is not to be compromised with, by the way. He is not a person with needs and motives. The authors have explained he is meant to represent relentless death, that's why he doesn't speak. That's why there is no back story to the White Walkers. They were created to be deadly, nothing else. They are like the tide or like radioactive waste. You don't talk to that.
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Post by ghostintheshell on Aug 17, 2018 14:00:05 GMT
I wouldn't like that too. But that is very plausible.
That said Jon was resurrected from death for a purpose. So it would be good if he dies again if his purpose is fulfilled.
They should have let him die the first time. There are still over a dozen characters who are more interesting than Jon.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 17, 2018 14:37:39 GMT
Leo of Red Keep The thing is that sometimes you say some sensible things but then put forward your own ending which seems no less stupid than what masses want. I think some sort of compromise ending with NK could be good. Also, each kingdom is ruled separately and unified Westeros is abandoned may also be pretty good. And you buy all the fool pleasing nonsense there is on sale. Independence always sounds good to fools until they are shown that it is unification which ended endless wars between kingdoms. Of course, the young dumbfucks who call themselves "liberals" without understanding what it means are for "independence" and "freedom" from fantasised constraints, at least until they are brainwashed into thinking Brexit is an evil thing by the socialistic scum they elect. So you want independent kingdoms on one side but some compromise with the Night King? How consistent. Typical again. "I want to be free from everything and also that everyone be nice to everyone". You sound like a four year old. One day, you might understand that "independence" is just a better job for those who sell the idea to fools. The Night King is not to be compromised with, by the way. He is not a person with needs and motives. The authors have explained he is meant to represent relentless death, that's why he doesn't speak. That's why there is no back story to the White Walkers. They were created to be deadly, nothing else. They are like the tide or like radioactive waste. You don't talk to that. It's not what I want (Whatever is "freedom"). It is how show can get away with what masses want (Jon Snow being the ruler). It's not a liberal thing to create smaller kingdoms.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 17, 2018 14:50:31 GMT
It's not a liberal thing to create smaller kingdoms. More nonsense. The limitation of a sovereign power instance to an area stands in no relation to the way this power is used. This is like saying that a smaller patch of cloth cannot be blue.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 17, 2018 14:55:27 GMT
It's not a liberal thing to create smaller kingdoms. More nonsense. The limitation of a sovereign power instance to an area stands in no relation to the way this power is used. This is like saying that a smaller patch of cloth cannot be blue.
Just keep dreaming about Cersei or her "adopted daughter" sitting on throne.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 17, 2018 15:14:27 GMT
More nonsense. The limitation of a sovereign power instance to an area stands in no relation to the way this power is used. This is like saying that a smaller patch of cloth cannot be blue.
Just keep dreaming about Cersei or her "adopted daughter" sitting on throne.
It will be such a touching sight And it sort of happened, by the way. When the "King Maker" Earl of Warwick became disillusioned with his made king Edward IV and failed to replace him with that king's brother, he married his own daughter to the son of the queen he had forced to go in exile, Margaret of Anjou, wife of the "mad king" Henry VI and restored the mentally impaired king. Margaret of Anjou is the closest real life equivalent to Cersei and she sort of adopted the daughter of her former enemy. My ending is nowhere as far fetched as you seem to think.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 17, 2018 20:12:37 GMT
Jon being legitimate just because his mommy and daddy were horrible people who allowed thousands to die, including their own families in order to boink freely via fake divorces no one but them knew about.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 18, 2018 20:37:47 GMT
sansa not dying every spoiler youtube video out this week and last and last before that have her dyuing i want her to live just to shut them up if we believve what GRMM about the bittersweet ending hopefully they wont be masses of death and i definitely dont want to see the NK on the iron throne , i think it will be bittersweet because everyone will loose a lot and they will have to rebuild- i wonder if dany dies how are they going to stop the NK from killing them off who in westeros has any equipment to bring down the dragon? cersei does for reason alone they wont kill her I would like to say that Cersei and Qyburn will put the emofools in their rightful place and bring technology into the game but let's not forget what Jojen said in S3E10: "You saw the White Walkers and the army of the dead. The Night's Watch can't stop them. The Kings of Westeros and all their armies can't stop them". For some reason, no one ever remembers this in spite of Jojen's sight having proven itself. Most viewers seem to think that throwing armies of fools at certain death is going to bring a solution. It won't and all the idiots who blame Cersei for not joining the general stupidity are just that. The whole thing is meant to be a re-enacting of the mass murder of the 1st world war written by a pacifist, including announcing "the Great War", which was a common name for the 1914-18 conflict. Ignorants worldwide don't know this, and won't see it after it's done. Even that simple message is wasted on them. I expect Bran to solve the whole thing, through some pointless trickery, then men will be left to pick up the pieces and lament their own foolishness, especially that which gave the Night King a freezing dragon. Leo now that you mention jojen other day even through my connection internet problems watched a video or some of it about him on YouTube talking about that jojen had revealed in not so many words through his visions to bran what will happen I'll be honest I didn't understand much of it but I think you're right bran will solve it
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 18, 2018 20:41:58 GMT
sansa not dying every spoiler youtube video out this week and last and last before that have her dyuing i want her to live just to shut them up if we believve what GRMM about the bittersweet ending hopefully they wont be masses of death and i definitely dont want to see the NK on the iron throne , i think it will be bittersweet because everyone will loose a lot and they will have to rebuild- i wonder if dany dies how are they going to stop the NK from killing them off who in westeros has any equipment to bring down the dragon? cersei does for reason alone they wont kill her I don't think Sansa is gonna die. She might not live a very happy life but will probably be a good ruler who cares for people. Hope you're right they already shown Sansa will be a good ruler and hopefully queen making sure people in winterfell had food and provisions and soilders right clothing , it was very inetersting to me they showed that at same time showing Dany burning the spoils Lannister got from the Tyrell's
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 18, 2018 20:44:46 GMT
Just keep dreaming about Cersei or her "adopted daughter" sitting on throne.
It will be such a touching sight And it sort of happened, by the way. When the "King Maker" Earl of Warwick became disillusioned with his made king Edward IV and failed to replace him with that king's brother, he married his own daughter to the son of the queen he had forced to go in exile, Margaret of Anjou, wife of the "mad king" Henry VI and restored the mentally impaired king. Margaret of Anjou is the closest real life equivalent to Cersei and she sort of adopted the daughter of her former enemy. My ending is nowhere as far fetched as you seem to think. Leo I watched all of this , LOL white queen , I thought this woman was scarier than cersei and colder LOL but yes in the end she tried to help her daughter in law but it was little too late she was arrested or killed can't remember
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 18, 2018 20:46:57 GMT
Leo of Red Keep cersei can still adopt Sansa and have her marry the king of the north I think that's the deal cersei will try and make with Jon once Dany is over ,Sansa may end up In cerseis hands again either through surrender or kidnapping we do know lannisters do attack winterfell
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Post by poelzig on Aug 19, 2018 0:53:45 GMT
Cersei NOT being horribly tortured to death and begging to be allowed to die only to have someone urinate in her face.
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Post by Nightman on Aug 19, 2018 0:55:55 GMT
Dany dying in childbirth while Jon Snowflake saves the realm and is crowned king.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 19, 2018 1:35:12 GMT
I don't think Sansa is gonna die. She might not live a very happy life but will probably be a good ruler who cares for people. Hope you're right they already shown Sansa will be a good ruler and hopefully queen making sure people in winterfell had food and provisions and soilders right clothing , it was very inetersting to me they showed that at same time showing Dany burning the spoils Lannister got from the Tyrell's Sansa, like Cersei, is a realist. She knows people need food, clothes and weapons. She understands the world must be faced with tactics, with intelligence. Jon Snow is an idealist. He keeps behaving as if people only needed goodwill and calls for all to join him. He doesn't have a plan but will "give the fuckers a fight", then he runs all alone towards Ramsay's army and gets the others to jump head on into mindless slaughter. The whole series plays with this opposition. The Lannisters are the cold thinkers and winners. The Starks are the emotional fools who act on impulse or on principle and get the rest of the world butchered with them. Young, stupid audiences love the Starks and hate Lannisters. It is thoroughly disgusting.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 19, 2018 1:55:38 GMT
It will be such a touching sight And it sort of happened, by the way. When the "King Maker" Earl of Warwick became disillusioned with his made king Edward IV and failed to replace him with that king's brother, he married his own daughter to the son of the queen he had forced to go in exile, Margaret of Anjou, wife of the "mad king" Henry VI and restored the mentally impaired king. Margaret of Anjou is the closest real life equivalent to Cersei and she sort of adopted the daughter of her former enemy. My ending is nowhere as far fetched as you seem to think. Leo I watched all of this , LOL white queen , I thought this woman was scarier than cersei and colder LOL but yes in the end she tried to help her daughter in law but it was little too late she was arrested or killed can't remember She wasn't killed. Her son was, either in battle or executed at the end of it, no one can tell. She was captured and kept prisoner in the Tower of London until Louis XI of France ransomed her some 3 years later. She spent the rest of her life back home in Anjou. She was buried in the cathedral in Angers. Her remains were scattered by revolutionary scum three centuries later. For a moment, I thought Varys would help provide exile to Cersei as a parallel, because Louis XI had a large network of spies and was called the spider. The daughter in law, Anne Neville, was played by Faye Marsay (The Waif) in The White Queen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 10:06:36 GMT
Worst possible ending for me would be that everyone lives happily ever after and that Sansa isn't dead. I've literally been rooting for the death of Sansa since season 1 and if she ends up alive or heaven forbid on the Iron Throne somehow it'll possibly ruin my feels about this show entirely much like the shit finale of How I Met Your Mother made me forever hate the rest of the show in retrospect.
The only character I'm really rooting for anymore in GOT is Jamie and Tyrion. I was rooting for Jon until he started fucking Danys, I hate that bitch too.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 21, 2018 10:22:04 GMT
I am absolutely certain that Sansa ends either as queen or in a position of significant power. The parallel to Elizabeth I is too strong. Cersei's pregnancy and her "popularity" make her dangerously close to "Bloody" Mary, first truly queen regnant of England (Matilda cannot count), who died after a false pregnancy which people today suspect was the result of ovarian cancer, leaving Elizabeth to ascend the throne after her.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 24, 2018 22:12:40 GMT
Leo I watched all of this , LOL white queen , I thought this woman was scarier than cersei and colder LOL but yes in the end she tried to help her daughter in law but it was little too late she was arrested or killed can't remember She wasn't killed. Her son was, either in battle or executed at the end of it, no one can tell. She was captured and kept prisoner in the Tower of London until Louis XI of France ransomed her some 3 years later. She spent the rest of her life back home in Anjou. She was buried in the cathedral in Angers. Her remains were scattered by revolutionary scum three centuries later. For a moment, I thought Varys would help provide exile to Cersei as a parallel, because Louis XI had a large network of spies and was called the spider. The daughter in law, Anne Neville, was played by Faye Marsay (The Waif) in The White Queen. Leo i remember when the waif came to GOT I was so excited because i remember her from the white queen but she was more likeable on the WQ than on GOT lol ANNE Started out as a sympathetic character then slowly grew colder and mean she was so jealous of her nieces i actually felt bad for her son died who was sweet little robin on GOT..LOL
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 25, 2018 1:35:34 GMT
The daughter in law, Anne Neville, was played by Faye Marsay (The Waif) in The White Queen. Leo i remember when the waif came to GOT I was so excited because i remember her from the white queen but she was more likeable on the WQ than on GOT lol ANNE Started out as a sympathetic character then slowly grew colder and mean she was so jealous of her nieces i actually felt bad for her son died who was sweet little robin on GOT..LOL I liked the Waif. She wanted to kill the angry monster who wants to kill my queen
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