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Post by hiraganakanji on Aug 19, 2018 15:51:23 GMT
A lot of people talk about how people who didn't like it were sexist and racist. However it seems that the movie's treatment of the only males of color were just horrible. I will talk about Poe later since he wasn't treated well. But Finn good dang, they literally made him Jar Jar Binks without an accent.
In the less progressive age of star wars we have cool black people like Mace Windu the Jedi who walked a fine line between staying on the light side and falling to the dark. We have Lando Calrissian leader of a city of millions and the person who blew up the second death star.
Then we have Finn. A guy who walks around in a bubble that is leaking and doesn't know anything about the world around him, and in the first movie loses every major fight, and in the second movie only wins because he was thrown down an elevator and forgotten. The worst part is they filmed a cool fight were he won due to his own skills and grit but it was cut out.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 19, 2018 16:24:35 GMT
He shouldn’t have lasted two seconds against a force-sensitive like Kylo, even if Kylo was severely injured. Han couldn’t have faced Vader, Finn shouldn’t be able to face Kylo.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Aug 19, 2018 16:34:40 GMT
A lot of people talk about how people who didn't like it were sexist and racist. However it seems that the movie's treatment of the only males of color were just horrible. I will talk about Poe later since he wasn't treated well. But Finn good dang, they literally made him Jar Jar Binks without an accent.
In the less progressive age of star wars we have cool black people like Mace Windu the Jedi who walked a fine line between staying on the light side and falling to the dark. We have Lando Calrissian leader of a city of millions and the person who blew up the second death star.
Then we have Finn. A guy who walks around in a bubble that is leaking and doesn't know anything about the world around him, and in the first movie loses every major fight, and in the second movie only wins because he was thrown down an elevator and forgotten. The worst part is they filmed a cool fight were he won due to his own skills and grit but it was cut out. You’re asking the internet if it hates something about The Last Jedi. I’m gonna assume the answers are yes. |
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Post by ThatsAShocker on Aug 19, 2018 16:44:16 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 19, 2018 17:00:34 GMT
I'm fine with the way both Poe and Finn were treated.
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Post by hiraganakanji on Aug 19, 2018 17:55:19 GMT
Finn is a character that was created for comic relief from the very beginning. Ironically he is the saddest character of the new trilogy.
But it is like let's make him the fool. What I hate most is his interaction with Rose in TLJ. He is trying to escape and she tased him. He is not a member of their group. He literally just left one Army holding him against his will, just for the good guys to do the same and it was played as a joke. Moreover I hate how he didn't know anything. He was a Trooper he should understand Arm dealers and the war profits In the comics they showed that he cared about aniamls so he could have been the person who told Rose about the space alpacas..Nope. He could have at least been the person to connect with the slave kid, since he was kind of slave kid..Nope. Or like I highlighted they could have let him win his fight like man, like he did in the deleted fight. But nope he gets thrown down a magic elevator just to some how come back up and get a cheap shot on Phasma . |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 19, 2018 21:47:34 GMT
in the Last Jedi? Start with Force Awakens, Finn was a walking racial stereotype from beginning:
- cowardly runaway slave/child soldier
- who shoots his child soldier comrades with glee and no regret
- gets his name from white dude
- gets electrocuted and called a thief by white girl
- says racial stuff like "droid, please"
- turn out to be the bumbling janitor
- chases awkwardly after white chick (got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend? Reeeeeeeeeey)
- is bested by all his white friends (Rey/Poe)
- drunks with animals, and is strangled by Chewie
etc
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Post by hiraganakanji on Aug 19, 2018 22:36:49 GMT
in the Last Jedi? Start with Force Awakens, Finn was a walking racial stereotype from beginning: - cowardly runaway slave/child soldier - who shoots his child soldier comrades with glee and no regret - gets his name from white dude - gets electrocuted and called a thief by white girl - says racial stuff like "droid, please" - turn out to be the bumbling janitor - chases awkwardly after white chick (got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend? Reeeeeeeeeey) - is bested by all his white friends (Rey/Poe) - drunks with animals, and is strangled by Chewie etc |
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Post by Caesium137 on Aug 20, 2018 9:13:44 GMT
A unfulfilled and almost wasted character arc of a former Storm trooper .
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 21, 2018 0:09:48 GMT
A unfulfilled and almost wasted character arc of a former Storm trooper . Pretty much sums it up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 2:21:17 GMT
I didn't much care for how any character in The Last Jedi was treated.
Finn especially is a weird character. When he takes his helmet off and defects, it humanises stormtroopers for pretty much the first time ever. Star Wars has ALWAYS treated Stormtroopers as pretty much half a step up from robots, disposable non-people that it's okay to kill. I always had the impression that Lucas originally wanted robot soldiers, but he couldn't afford it / the technology to depict it didn't exist, so he made human soldiers that were as dehumanised as possible. When the prequel movies rolled around he got his robots after all... and made the troopers clones, to further dehumanise them.
Anyway, all that goes by the by when Finn takes his helmet off. For the first time, the audience is invited to wonder what a Stormtrooper thinks about what he's doing. We learn that they are victims, child soldiers indoctrinated from birth. We learn that they can break their programming, that they can be afraid, or have a crisis of conscience, that they have hopes and dreams of their own.
...and then the movie goes straight back to treating them as purely disposable mooks for the rest of the movie, people you can kill without having to worry about it. A huge opportunity is raised... and then just thrown away. Weird.
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