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Post by Vits on May 7, 2023 0:19:30 GMT
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 has all the elements that made the previous 2 movies so good, minus two major exceptions: A) The tone is uneven; and B) The title sequence feels lazy (an issue that was also present in the holiday special they released in 2022). This sequel explores Rocket Racoon's backstory. Those scenes are presented as memories he's thinking about, but only a couple of times. Most of them happen without any rhyme or reason. Present-day Rocket isn't even present in a lot of the situations that are interrupted by these flashbacks. Why not cut to a brief shot of him before going back in time? That would serve as a proper transition. A lot of the M.C.U. installments feature the trope where it looks like one of the heroes is about to die but something/someone saves them at the last minute. That happens here with Star-Lord during the climax, and it's annoying as always. However, it also happens in an earlier scene and it's worse than usual. During a battle, Drax and Nebula are shot. Once the gang escapes, the two of them... are fine. Their injuries aren't really acknowledged. What the fuck?! At least Star-Lord's quasi-death generates a reaction from his friends, which is technically relevant to the script, but this is just a waste of time! After Gamora's death, a variant from another timeline showed up. This was clearly part of a plan to have a substitute (as a member of the team and as Star-Lord's girlfriend), but it doesn't end happening. That's right: The popular sci-fi/fantasy franchise refused the opportunity to undo a negative event and keep the audience satisfied. That takes balls! 7/10
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 23, 2023 15:44:15 GMT
Why are you confused by this? They get blasted by a laser gun or whatever. It packs a punch but doesn't seriously injure them, just like many other injuries they've sustained in other battles in other movies. In this movie alone, Nebula is seriously mangled several times, and is shown reconfiguring her body during the battle.
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Post by Vits on May 23, 2023 20:47:52 GMT
Why are you confused by this? They get blasted by a laser gun or whatever. It packs a punch but doesn't seriously injure them, just like many other injuries they've sustained in other battles in other movies. In this movie alone, Nebula is seriously mangled several times, and is shown reconfiguring her body during the battle. I'm not confused. It's not about them being able to take it. It's about the movie making it look like they're about to die in the moment, only to then cheat the audience. Besides, just because they can survive it, doesn't mean it doesn't hurt or that there can't be injuries to treat, but the movie ignores that.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 23, 2023 22:02:06 GMT
Why are you confused by this? They get blasted by a laser gun or whatever. It packs a punch but doesn't seriously injure them, just like many other injuries they've sustained in other battles in other movies. In this movie alone, Nebula is seriously mangled several times, and is shown reconfiguring her body during the battle. I'm not confused. It's not about them being able to take it. It's about the movie making it look like they're about to die in the moment, only to then cheat the audience. Besides, just because they can survive it, doesn't mean it doesn't hurt or that there can't be injuries to treat, but the movie ignores that. It never made it look like they were going to die in that moment. You misread the severity of the situation, it's that simple. Do they commonly have scenes devoted to characters in the infirmary after a battle in superhero movies? There may be a few, but it's hardly the norm.
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2023 8:54:02 GMT
It never made it look like they were going to die in that moment. Then why did it change to slow motion and dramatic music all of the sudden? Do they commonly have scenes devoted to characters in the infirmary after a battle in superhero movies? What about what the Guardians do afrer Adam's first attack? They even have this medical device that I don't remember seeing in the previous movies.
Just to clarify: I didn't mean that we have to see the injury treatment in real time. A good example would be "Avengers: Endgame". Hulk's arm is in a sling during the last few scenes. Another alternative would be that, after escaping that planet, someone could've asked Drax and Nebula how they were feeling, to which they could've replied by briefly giving details about their status. It wouldn't have felt like putting the story on pause or anything.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 24, 2023 11:51:07 GMT
It never made it look like they were going to die in that moment. Then why did it change to slow motion and dramatic music all of the sudden? Do they commonly have scenes devoted to characters in the infirmary after a battle in superhero movies? What about what the Guardians do afrer Adam's first attack? They even have this medical device that I don't remember seeing in the previous movies.
Just to clarify: I didn't mean that we have to see the injury treatment in real time. A good example would be "Avengers: Endgame". Hulk's arm is in a sling during the last few scenes. Another alternative would be that, after escaping that planet, someone could've asked Drax and Nebula how they were feeling, to which they could've replied by briefly giving details about their status. It wouldn't have felt like putting the story on pause or anything. Ah, so that explains it. Because the movie revolves around Rocket being seriously injured in the fight, suddenly you think every injury sustained by anyone is critical. Well, that's not how it usually works in movies.
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2023 16:09:37 GMT
Ah, so that explains it. Because the movie revolves around Rocket being seriously injured in the fight, suddenly you think every injury sustained by anyone is critical. Well, that's not how it usually works in movies. A) Rocket wasn't the only one injured in that fight. B) I was using that as an example/precedent, not as a rule. It doesn't have to happen... just as filming scenes as if a character is about to die don't have to happen either.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 24, 2023 16:25:25 GMT
Ah, so that explains it. Because the movie revolves around Rocket being seriously injured in the fight, suddenly you think every injury sustained by anyone is critical. Well, that's not how it usually works in movies. A) Rocket wasn't the only one injured in that fight. B) I was using that as an example/precedent, not as a rule. It doesn't have to happen... just as filming scenes as if a character is about to die don't have to happen either. Yeah, and that proves my point. The other characters got roughed up too, but they bounced back because they're considerably tougher than Rocket. If you can't see the difference between a mechanically enhanced racoon getting the shit kicked out of him by Superman, and a guy who has dived inside a giant alien creature's mouth and ripped his way out surviving a laser blast, that's your problem. They didn't film those scenes as if they were about to die. Look at the scene with Rocket needing immediate medical attention to keep him alive, as opposed to Drax needing help to walk out of the battle. How on Earth did you get the same message from those two scenes? Do you think there might be a reason you're the only person on this board complaining about this?
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Post by Vits on May 25, 2023 7:18:22 GMT
How on Earth did you get the same message from those two scenes? The cinematic language.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 25, 2023 12:16:42 GMT
How on Earth did you get the same message from those two scenes? The cinematic language. The cinematic language that never referenced their injuries again, because they clearly weren't that serious. Sorry you're the only one who didn't get the memo.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 26, 2023 21:00:57 GMT
They have those first aid things that can quickly heal serious (not fatal) wounds quickly. It didn't work on Rocket because his artificial parts were rigged with a failsafe to self destruct if anyone tampered with them including medical assistance. Getting the codes to disable that failsafe is the whole plot of the movie.
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