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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 10, 2018 16:53:45 GMT
I personally loved it! Especially with how all out Tim went on it.
This film also still has the best live action Catwoman!
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 10, 2018 17:31:42 GMT
It’s the cat’s pajamas!!!
9 😻👅 + 1🐧
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 10, 2018 18:34:12 GMT
It's still my favorite Batman film... well, live action Batman anyway. And no other Catwoman comes close to Pfeifer's.
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Post by Archelaus on Sept 10, 2018 18:46:28 GMT
It's my favorite installment from the Burton/Schumacher film series. Michael Keaton is still excellent as Bruce Wayne/Batman, and the chemistry and love story between him and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman is one of the best things about the film. Michelle was just phenomenal as Catwoman, though I think giving her nine lives after being resurrected was silly. Danny DeVito was also great as the Penguin, though his characterization is more in line with Killer Croc who lives in the sewers. On another note, the scene where the Penguin bites that guy's nose is tough to watch. I actually kind of wished they re-wrote Max Shreck's character into being Harvey Dent so it ties in better with Batman Forever.
Other than that, Danny Elfman's score and the production design is still great.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 10, 2018 21:46:40 GMT
It’s the cat’s pajamas!!! 9 😻👅 + 1🐧 Now why didn’t Cole ever put that in “You’re the Top”? “You’re the top!You’re the cat’s pajamas!You’re the top!You’re Bill Shakespeare’s dramas!”But I agree—it’s a great movie. A wacky movie, pitched halfway between The Phantom of the Opera and Frankenstein, but great. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 10, 2018 22:15:44 GMT
It’s alright. It’s too much of a Tim Burton film rather than a true comic book film, and while Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer are certainly memorable in their respective roles, they had very little to do with their comic book counterparts. Also, Batman trying to convince Selina to not kill Shreck came off as downright hypocritical in the context of the movie.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2018 22:55:40 GMT
7/10. Weird but entertaining.
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Post by sostie on Sept 11, 2018 10:13:07 GMT
Definitely in my Top 3 Batman films
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Post by summers8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:25:32 GMT
A land mark for comic films sequel. used to watch it with my dad when I was a kid.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:26:35 GMT
ALSO. THREE WORDS.
Michelle Pfeiffer....MEOWWWWWWWWW
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 11, 2018 16:44:43 GMT
It’s alright. It’s too much of a Tim Burton film rather than a true comic book film, and while Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer are certainly memorable in their respective roles, they had very little to do with their comic book counterparts. Also, Batman trying to convince Selina to not kill Shreck came off as downright hypocritical in the context of the movie. Indeed. He's shown setting people on fire, strapping people with bombs to their chest, and just moments earlier got his horde of bats to rush the Penguin to break into the old Arctic World structure and fall into highly toxic waters...? He was very underwritten and confusingly portrayed. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 11, 2018 17:03:20 GMT
I have very mixed opinions about it.
On the one hand its well designed and the use of color is still vibrant and eye catching now as it was back then, but unlike its predecessor Gotham doesn't feel like a livable environment it comes across as a little too stagey and fake. It also feels very disconnected to the world of the first film, even Wayne Manor and the bat cave appear different.
Keaton is solid but his Batman is underwritten and confusingly portrayed.
Michelle Pfeiffer is great but the character is pretty much Selina Kyle in name only.
Danny DeVito is at his most ambitious as a performer but the character is just too bizarrely written and plays on all the extremes. They keep trying to make you feel sympathy toward him but its really hard to when he doesn't show any warmth whatsoever, even when they show him as a youth he's still portrayed as a wild, sociopath. He's even willing to turn his "babies" - some of which are so freakishly tall, resilient( they were swimming in toxic waters) and strong they maybe could try out for the NBA or WWE - into an army of suicide bombers to destroy a portion of the city.
Christopher Walken is always great, but he doesn't really get much to do here.
I still am of the opinion that they could've/should've switched Walken and DeVito's roles around, make DeVito's Penguin a egotistical, slimy businessman like Schrek but is actually able to run for mayoral campaign and uses Killer Croc( Walken) to appeal to voters by making him to be the "hero" Gotham really deserves but it backfires quickly. But oh well, it's a 20+ year old movie so what can you do?
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Post by politicidal on Sept 11, 2018 17:13:31 GMT
I have very mixed opinions about it. On the one hand its well designed and the use of color is still vibrant and eye catching now as it was back then, but unlike its predecessor Gotham doesn't feel like a livable environment it comes across as a little too stagey and fake. It also feels very disconnected to the world of the first film, even Wayne Manor and the bat cave appear different. Keaton is solid but his Batman is underwritten and confusingly portrayed. Michelle Pfeiffer is great but the character is pretty much Selina Kyle in name only. Danny DeVito is at his most ambitious as a performer but the character is just too bizarrely written and plays on all the extremes. They keep trying to make you feel sympathy toward him but its really hard to when he doesn't show any warmth whatsoever, even when they show him as a youth he's still portrayed as a wild, sociopath. He's even willing to turn his "babies" - some of which are so freakishly tall, resilient( they were swimming in toxic waters) and strong they maybe could try out for the NBA or WWE - into an army of suicide bombers to destroy a portion of the city. Christopher Walken is always great, but he doesn't really get much to do here. I still am of the opinion that they could've/should've switched Walken and DeVito's roles around, make DeVito's Penguin a egotistical, slimy businessman like Schrek but is actually able to run for mayoral campaign and uses Killer Croc( Walken) to appeal to voters by making him to be the "hero" Gotham really deserves but it backfires quickly. But oh well, it's a 20+ year old movie so what can you do? REBOOT!!!! |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 11, 2018 17:38:04 GMT
I have very mixed opinions about it. On the one hand its well designed and the use of color is still vibrant and eye catching now as it was back then, but unlike its predecessor Gotham doesn't feel like a livable environment it comes across as a little too stagey and fake. It also feels very disconnected to the world of the first film, even Wayne Manor and the bat cave appear different. Keaton is solid but his Batman is underwritten and confusingly portrayed. Michelle Pfeiffer is great but the character is pretty much Selina Kyle in name only. Danny DeVito is at his most ambitious as a performer but the character is just too bizarrely written and plays on all the extremes. They keep trying to make you feel sympathy toward him but its really hard to when he doesn't show any warmth whatsoever, even when they show him as a youth he's still portrayed as a wild, sociopath. He's even willing to turn his "babies" - some of which are so freakishly tall, resilient( they were swimming in toxic waters) and strong they maybe could try out for the NBA or WWE - into an army of suicide bombers to destroy a portion of the city. Christopher Walken is always great, but he doesn't really get much to do here. I still am of the opinion that they could've/should've switched Walken and DeVito's roles around, make DeVito's Penguin a egotistical, slimy businessman like Schrek but is actually able to run for mayoral campaign and uses Killer Croc( Walken) to appeal to voters by making him to be the "hero" Gotham really deserves but it backfires quickly. But oh well, it's a 20+ year old movie so what can you do? Speaking of running for mayor, I can’t help but wonder how Cobblepot’s campaign chances weren’t ruined the moment he bit that guy’s nose. How disconnected is Burton’s Gotham from the rest of the world if something like that is even possible? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 11, 2018 17:49:29 GMT
I have very mixed opinions about it. On the one hand its well designed and the use of color is still vibrant and eye catching now as it was back then, but unlike its predecessor Gotham doesn't feel like a livable environment it comes across as a little too stagey and fake. It also feels very disconnected to the world of the first film, even Wayne Manor and the bat cave appear different. Keaton is solid but his Batman is underwritten and confusingly portrayed. Michelle Pfeiffer is great but the character is pretty much Selina Kyle in name only. Danny DeVito is at his most ambitious as a performer but the character is just too bizarrely written and plays on all the extremes. They keep trying to make you feel sympathy toward him but its really hard to when he doesn't show any warmth whatsoever, even when they show him as a youth he's still portrayed as a wild, sociopath. He's even willing to turn his "babies" - some of which are so freakishly tall, resilient( they were swimming in toxic waters) and strong they maybe could try out for the NBA or WWE - into an army of suicide bombers to destroy a portion of the city. Christopher Walken is always great, but he doesn't really get much to do here. I still am of the opinion that they could've/should've switched Walken and DeVito's roles around, make DeVito's Penguin a egotistical, slimy businessman like Schrek but is actually able to run for mayoral campaign and uses Killer Croc( Walken) to appeal to voters by making him to be the "hero" Gotham really deserves but it backfires quickly. But oh well, it's a 20+ year old movie so what can you do? Speaking of running for mayor, I can’t help but wonder how Cobblepot’s campaign chances weren’t ruined the moment he bit that guy’s nose. How disconnected is Burton’s Gotham from the rest of the world if something like that is even possible? I think the only reason why they had Cobblepot run for mayor in the first place was because it happened once in a two-parter of the Adam West show. Burton and co. probably thought "well, we've gone in such a vastly different direction with the character we might as well throw in something that might make them happy, screw logic right?" |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 12, 2018 10:00:06 GMT
10/10. Love it! I love the dark gothic tone. While Batman is my favorite film, Returns fall onto my top 10.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 12, 2018 19:56:41 GMT
Form over substance, but one of the very few cases where that works perfectly. Though, the Penguin and Shrek are like premonitions of the rise of Trump.   |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 12, 2018 20:05:37 GMT
I watched it recently in the cinema as it had a one off release. Its very good, I loved it as a kid and it holds up pretty wwll today. The biggest problem is that Batman is hardly in it. Its way too focused on the Penguins origin. 8.5/10
Added note it has my favourite ending to a Batman out of all of them, including Nolans series.
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Post by scabab on Sept 12, 2018 21:47:09 GMT
I like it but I thought this when went a bit too dark and weird. I can see why Batman Forever changed the tone up but then they went to far in the other direction.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 13, 2018 13:49:13 GMT
I am a big fan of both Tim Burton movies. I think the only issue I had with Batman Returns is that things got a little silly with the penguins: strapping bombs to their backs and having them carry the Penguin to his grave. Other than that, I think it's great. It's a shame Burton never got to make a complete trilogy.
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