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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 11, 2018 23:08:08 GMT
Yes. Terrorists inside the planes were responsible. No one was inside the planes. All plane experts. π
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Post by Morgana on Sept 12, 2018 13:13:39 GMT
What happened was terrible, but why do Americans still behave as though there are no other countries, or people that matter, except them? 372 foreign nationals from 61 countries were also victims. Not all of us Americans think or feel that way. However it happened on American soil. So we take that just a little more personally. Whether something is more "horrific"....something like 9/11 could have by most accounts been prevented. How do you prevent mother nature? So in a mind, it can be more horrific that we could have stopped it from happening. As human beings, people do not have to become terrorists. We, human beings, tend to screw ourselves in so many ways. But again, there's not much defense when it comes to mother nature. They are both tragedies. That's fine, but is anyone remembering all the Iraqis that died because of American bombing? I'm pretty sure it's in the hundreds or thousands. To the Iraqis, the Americans were the terrorists - they declared war on Iraq under false pretenses.
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Post by President Ackbarβ’ on Sept 12, 2018 17:40:24 GMT
372 foreign nationals from 61 countries were also victims. That's fine, but is anyone remembering all the Iraqis that died because of American bombing? HUFFINGTON POST 10/15/2013 09:26 pm ET Updated Dec 06, 2017 Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says
KERRY SHERIDAN Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday. That toll is far higher than the nearly 115,000 violent civilian deaths reported by the British-based group Iraq Body Count, which bases its tally on media reports, hospital and morgue records, and official and non-governmental accounts. The latest estimate by university researchers in the United States, Canada and Baghdad in cooperation with the Iraqi Ministry of Health covers not only violent deaths but other avoidable deaths linked to the invasion, insurgencies and subsequent social breakdown. It also differs from some previous counts by spanning a longer period of time and by using randomized surveys of households across Iraq to project a nationwide death toll from 2003 to mid 2011. Violence caused most of the deaths, but about a third were indirectly linked to the war, and these deaths have been left out of previous counts, said lead author Amy Hagopian, a public health researcher at the University of Washington. Those included situations when a pregnant woman encountered difficult labor but could not leave the house due to fighting, or when a person drank contaminated water, or when a patient could not get treated at a hospital because staff was overwhelmed with war casualties. βThese are all indirect deaths, and they are significant,β Hagopian told AFP. The aim of the study was to provide a truer picture of the suffering caused by war, and hopefully to make governments think twice about the harm that would come from an invasion, she said. βI think it is important that people understand the consequences of launching wars on public health, on how people live. This country is forever changed.β The research team from the University of Washington, Johns Hopkins University, Simon Fraser University and Mustansiriya University conducted the work on a volunteer basis using pooled internal resources instead of seeking outside funds. Their tally was compiled by asking adults living in 2,000 randomly selected households in 100 geographic clusters across Iraq if family members had died, when and why. Researchers used the survey data, which was completed by 1,960 of those chosen, to calculate the death rate before the war and after. When multiplied by the whole population, they returned a number that represented βexcess deaths.β Researchers estimated there were 405,000 excess Iraqi deaths attributable to the war through mid-2011. They also attempted to account for deaths missed because families had fled the country, and estimated 55,805 total deaths, bringing the total to nearly 461,000. About 70 percent of Iraq deaths from 2003-2011 were violent in nature, with most caused by gunshots, followed by car bombs and other explosions, said the study. Coalition forces were blamed for 35 percent of violent deaths; militias were blamed for 32 percent. The rest were either unknown (21 percent), criminals (11 percent) or Iraqi forces (one percent). Heart conditions were the most common cause of non-violent death from 2003-2011 β indicating a key role of stress in war-related deaths β followed by chronic illness and cancer. In a perspective article accompanying the PLoS Medicine study, Salman Rawaf, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center at Imperial College London, said the latest research would likely be called into question, as have other estimates before it, with most βperceived as being politically motivated, deliberately either over-reporting or suppressing the number of deaths.β βThis estimate carries substantial uncertainty, and undoubtedly the methodology and findings of this latest study will be controversial and debated,β he wrote. However, the attempt to quantify the catastrophe created by war is βvaluableβ in the context of understanding the health consequences of war, he said. βLiving in Iraq today is no longer about how many have died, but how future deaths should be prevented.β
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2018 1:07:22 GMT
Yes. Terrorists inside the planes were responsible. No one was inside the planes. I can't believe that EVEN YOU are this stupid. 911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/index.htmlIf you read this web site, there are flight manifests, list of those on board and some remains found in the ruins of the WTC DNA matched with relatives. You are a cretinous buffoon.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2018 1:52:15 GMT
I totally disagree.
Whilst the 9/11 event was disastrous to Americans with a significant death toll, it was far from the most horrifying event of the 21st Century.
To my mind it was the Indian Ocean tsunami.
IMHO 9/11 was preventable in the sense that the USA brought on the level of Muslim terrorist hatred by prior attitudes and actions in the middle east, themselves.
As a natural disaster the tsunami was far more horrifying for the suddenness, extreme loss of life and widespread unavoidable damage not to mention lengthy aftermath of rebuilding and grief by hundreds of thsouands of people across many countries.
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 26, 2018 5:01:08 GMT
yes every four or five hundred years imperialism backfires as someone gets upset over all the usurping going on as the definition of freedom changes faster than a hooker shifts outfits at a republican national convention.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 26, 2018 8:55:49 GMT
No one was inside the planes. I can't believe that EVEN YOU are this stupid. 911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/index.htmlIf you read this web site, there are flight manifests, list of those on board and some remains found in the ruins of the WTC DNA matched with relatives. You are a cretinous buffoon. Did you know any of them?
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2018 22:12:29 GMT
I can't believe that EVEN YOU are this stupid. 911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/index.htmlIf you read this web site, there are flight manifests, list of those on board and some remains found in the ruins of the WTC DNA matched with relatives. You are a cretinous buffoon. Did you know any of them? The stupider than stupid continues. Why would I have to know any of them when DNA evidence links their remains taken from the ruins of the WTC to living relatives? It is what we call scientific proof and it is undeniable even to cretinous buffoons like you.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 27, 2018 8:43:11 GMT
Did you know any of them? The stupider than stupid continues. Why would I have to know any of them when DNA evidence links their remains taken from the ruins of the WTC to living relatives? It is what we call scientific proof and it is undeniable even to cretinous buffoons like you. Calm yourself, goz.
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Post by Marv on Sept 27, 2018 9:50:30 GMT
Iβve gotten over it but for a few weeks there I was pretty infatuated with watching documentaries and videos about 9/11. This is the first year thatβs happened to me.
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 27, 2018 17:57:45 GMT
(i'm tempted to amend) my universal database of one hundred beauty marks
like most diligent historians of beauty i have not one but two sworn duties.
to not only capture in verse precisely the pretty but too also limit the amount of words used to detail the descriptions therein.
of course i could just as easily saturate myself in gin. pretend that numbing my nerves was the last word in oh so many historians before me.
but who needs another drunken fool using worn out tools to school what may already be obvious to most.
so i propose a toast to you my gracious host that i suspend my rule of one hundred and use unlimited from this point on.
seeings how; there are an endless supply of dawns, smiles to carry on, eyes to inspire songs, hearts to climb upon, and mountain tops i have set you upon.
could one hundred be enough after all? and should i be greedy decorating my kingdom hall? after all anyone can scribble hieroglyphs still few build bridges where once stood only a wall.
sjw 09/27/18 inspired at this very moment in time by the one of the lights of my world: my rico!
from the 'beauty series' of poems
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Post by Lugh on Sept 27, 2018 19:09:45 GMT
Lol no
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 27, 2018 19:24:45 GMT
I think she meant to say single most horrifying terrorist incident.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 27, 2018 19:37:31 GMT
I think she meant to say single most horrifying terrorist incident. And I couldn't agree more. The Illuminati monsters who pulled off this job and blamed the Arabs for it are terrorists in every sense of the word.
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Post by goz on Sept 27, 2018 21:02:24 GMT
I think she meant to say single most horrifying terrorist incident. And I couldn't agree more. The Illuminati monsters who pulled off this job and blamed the Arabs for it are terrorists in every sense of the word. Yes butt you claimed the planes were empty so why would we take anything else you say on the subject seriously? Who the fuck are these Illuminati monsters anyway? I seriously don't think that includes Osama Bin Laden, do you? ...though one would have to admit that they were pretty clever in getting Muslim Arabs to commit suicide in those planes for some nebulous 'Illumunata' cause. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacksWhat was that cause Erjenious? It must have been pretty important to recruit Muslim jihadists , to a Western problem which you are going to explain to me, right!?
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 28, 2018 10:15:01 GMT
I think she meant to say single most horrifying terrorist incident. And I couldn't agree more. The Illuminati monsters who pulled off this job and blamed the Arabs for it are terrorists in every sense of the word. I got it! They were all accidents, caused by a fault in each plane. Two 757s, two 767s - products of Boeing. Normally, when a fault is discovered, a bulletin goes out, warning all operators of that aircraft. But.....that has not always been the case..... "Pilot error" often used to cover up a flaw which would bring about major lawsuits, lose some stock, risk losing a very profitable contract. And Boeing figured, eh....what risk is there.....oh no, two planes just autopiloted themselves into the World Trade Center, another has hit the Pentagon, and one tried to land in some woods!!! π§π° - Terrorists! We'll blame terrorists, now that we have the shaved monkey in the White House to dance to our tune! (May not be accurate)
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 28, 2018 10:18:21 GMT
And I couldn't agree more. The Illuminati monsters who pulled off this job and blamed the Arabs for it are terrorists in every sense of the word. I got it! They were all accidents, caused by a fault in each plane. Two 757s, two 767s - products of Boeing. Normally, when a fault is discovered, a bulletin goes out, warning all operators of that aircraft. But.....that has not always been the case..... "Pilot error" often used to cover up a flaw which would bring about major lawsuits, lose some stock, risk losing a very profitable contract. And Boeing figured, eh....what risk is there.....oh no, two planes just autopiloted themselves into the World Trade Center, another has hit the Pentagon, and one tried to land in some woods!!! π§π° - Terrorists! We'll blame terrorists, now that we have the shaved monkey in the White House to dance to our tune! (May not be accurate) You stopped being funny a long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 11:15:08 GMT
I got it! They were all accidents, caused by a fault in each plane. Two 757s, two 767s - products of Boeing. Normally, when a fault is discovered, a bulletin goes out, warning all operators of that aircraft. But.....that has not always been the case..... "Pilot error" often used to cover up a flaw which would bring about major lawsuits, lose some stock, risk losing a very profitable contract. And Boeing figured, eh....what risk is there.....oh no, two planes just autopiloted themselves into the World Trade Center, another has hit the Pentagon, and one tried to land in some woods!!! π§π° - Terrorists! We'll blame terrorists, now that we have the shaved monkey in the White House to dance to our tune! (May not be accurate) You stopped being funny a long time ago. Like you stopped being believable a long time ago.
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 28, 2018 16:03:16 GMT
I got it! They were all accidents, caused by a fault in each plane. Two 757s, two 767s - products of Boeing. Normally, when a fault is discovered, a bulletin goes out, warning all operators of that aircraft. But.....that has not always been the case..... "Pilot error" often used to cover up a flaw which would bring about major lawsuits, lose some stock, risk losing a very profitable contract. And Boeing figured, eh....what risk is there.....oh no, two planes just autopiloted themselves into the World Trade Center, another has hit the Pentagon, and one tried to land in some woods!!! π§π° - Terrorists! We'll blame terrorists, now that we have the shaved monkey in the White House to dance to our tune! (May not be accurate) You stopped being funny a long time ago. Its more plausible than other conspiracies. π
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 28, 2018 16:17:13 GMT
I recall seeing it on TV after hearing it from bro who had heard it off the radio.
While that was going on, fighter jets from a nearby airbase scrambled, patrolling the skies just in case.
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