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Post by clusium on Sept 29, 2018 19:18:59 GMT
That was in 1945. Not in the 21st century. The Vietnam war wasn't in the 21st century either. What's with terrorism sympathizers who don't know when a century begins? The post I responded to never specified the 21st century. I never claimed the Vietnam war was terrorist attack anyway. But, the topic thread I created specifically referred to the most famous terrorist attack OF the 21'St Century, thus far. **I** specifically mentioned the 21'St Century!!!!
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Post by goz on Sept 29, 2018 20:14:30 GMT
The post I responded to never specified the 21st century. I never claimed the Vietnam war was terrorist attack anyway. But, the topic thread I created specifically referred to the most famous terrorist attack OF the 21'St Century, thus far. **I** specifically mentioned the 21'St Century!!!! So do you still claim that 9/11 was more horrifying an event than the tsunami in Asia?
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Post by clusium on Sept 29, 2018 20:27:12 GMT
But, the topic thread I created specifically referred to the most famous terrorist attack OF the 21'St Century, thus far. **I** specifically mentioned the 21'St Century!!!! So do you still claim that 9/11 was more horrifying an event than the tsunami in Asia? No. However, the tsunami was a natural disaster. 9/11/01 was a terrorist attack. That is, all the deaths that happened that day (be it in the twin towers; the Pentagon; and United 93)were caused by man. In other words, we are talking Murder....Murder....Murder. Evil caused by Man.
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Post by Lugh on Sept 30, 2018 15:38:28 GMT
The post I responded to never specified the 21st century. I never claimed the Vietnam war was terrorist attack anyway. But, the topic thread I created specifically referred to the most famous terrorist attack OF the 21'St Century, thus far. **I** specifically mentioned the 21'St Century!!!! But I wasn't responding to you.
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Post by phludowin on Sept 30, 2018 18:04:13 GMT
So do you still claim that 9/11 was more horrifying an event than the tsunami in Asia? No. However, the tsunami was a natural disaster. 9/11/01 was a terrorist attack. That is, all the deaths that happened that day (be it in the twin towers; the Pentagon; and United 93)were caused by man. In other words, we are talking Murder....Murder....Murder. Evil caused by Man. And many deaths in Indonesia could have been prevented, if Indonesia had had a working Tsunami Warning System. So the 200.000 deaths are caused by man as well. The recent tsunami in Indonesia will also claim thousands of deaths. And again, the reason was human negligence; the warning system didn't work as it should. When lots of people die, it's usually people's fault. As far as I'm concerned, the high number of casualties is caused by man, and dwarfs the casualties of 9/11.
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Post by goz on Sept 30, 2018 20:09:56 GMT
So do you still claim that 9/11 was more horrifying an event than the tsunami in Asia? No. However, the tsunami was a natural disaster. 9/11/01 was a terrorist attack. That is, all the deaths that happened that day (be it in the twin towers; the Pentagon; and United 93)were caused by man. In other words, we are talking Murder....Murder....Murder. Evil caused by Man. Perhaps you should have specified that in your thread title?
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Post by clusium on Sept 30, 2018 22:16:17 GMT
No. However, the tsunami was a natural disaster. 9/11/01 was a terrorist attack. That is, all the deaths that happened that day (be it in the twin towers; the Pentagon; and United 93)were caused by man. In other words, we are talking Murder....Murder....Murder. Evil caused by Man. Perhaps you should have specified that in your thread title? Yes, maybe I should have.
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Post by clusium on Oct 1, 2018 14:26:51 GMT
While this is true, I agree that people should be careful with superlatives. Calling an event that claimed 3,000 lives the "most horrific" event of the 21st century when another event claimed more than 200,000 is a bit inappropriate in my opinion.And people in Haiti who remember 2010 might also have something to say about this matter. The event was tragic yes, but US citizens can have feelings of entitlement and indignancy due to the notion that they are superior and more important over the rest of the world. Except for the fact that I am not a US citizen. I am a Canadian citizen.
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Post by thefleetsin on Oct 1, 2018 15:11:05 GMT
privileged white man evil
after the self righteous furor had topped off with one hell of a blood saturated holy right cross in what the christians are naming our gods your ultimate boss can we all projectile vomit then write that off as a loss?
sjw 10/01/18 inspired at this very moment in time by the crack appearing in the plastic armor.
from the 'blitzkrieg series' of poems
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Post by goz on Oct 1, 2018 20:26:51 GMT
The event was tragic yes, but US citizens can have feelings of entitlement and indignancy due to the notion that they are superior and more important over the rest of the world. Except for the fact that I am not a US citizen. I am a Canadian citizen. Then why do you have the opinion outlined by Toasted Cheese? Just why do you think that a terrorist event that killed a fewer number of people is more important and 'most horrifying' than events that killed hundreds of thousands in other parts of the world? I would hate to think that it is because you are brainwashed into thinking that the lives of nice white people in a large city in North America are worth more than anonymous brown people in lands far away because it was a ' natural' disaster and that The USA bore no responsibility for this terrorist outcome?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 1, 2018 20:29:19 GMT
The things people argue over...
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Post by goz on Oct 1, 2018 20:42:33 GMT
The things people argue over... Indeed. I guess if you believe in the end times and think you are going to heaven, a few hundred thousand brown heathen lives on the other side of world are of little importance!
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 1, 2018 20:45:39 GMT
The things people argue over... Indeed. I guess if you believe in the end times and think you are going to heaven, a few hundred thousand brown heathen lives on the other side of world are of little importance! How about a compromise and simply agree that both of them sucked? While I certainly don't view 9/11 as the most horrifying event in the 21st century (Something I made abundantly clear in my post here actually proving once again you may not be paying attention for the sake of arguing), it's certainly memorable and tragic, so why get all whiney about it being someone else's pick?
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 1, 2018 20:51:07 GMT
The things people argue over... Agree. For once I want to see this topic go down and die.
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Post by goz on Oct 1, 2018 20:57:40 GMT
Indeed. I guess if you believe in the end times and think you are going to heaven, a few hundred thousand brown heathen lives on the other side of world are of little importance! How about a compromise and simply agree that both of them sucked? While I certainly don't view 9/11 as the most horrifying event in the 21st century (Something I made abundantly clear in my post here actually proving once again you may not be paying attention for the sake of arguing), it's certainly memorable and tragic, so why get all whiney about it being someone else's pick? Of course they both 'sucked' as you so eloquently describe human tragedy! My interest is in why...what motivates someone to have that opinion There have been several 'excuses' thus far. 1. It was terrorism so that is somehow worse than other deaths ie (and I quote ) Murder murder murder in bold. 2. I am Canadian not American so if I think it is the worst my view should have more clout. 3. A sort of almost apology for not having a more specific thread title instead of the ridiculous one at the top of the page. Does that answer for you why 9/11 is this person's pick? She can have that opinion if she wants like I respect that in her religious life she chooses to be Catholic. I just wonder why she considers the events of 9/11 to be the most 'horrifying' over other events.
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Post by goz on Oct 1, 2018 21:00:07 GMT
The things people argue over... Agree. For once I want to see this topic go down and die. Why? Does it upset you that people are having opinions on what constitutes the worst human tragedy? It upsets me, so I speak up when I see a discrepancy.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 1, 2018 21:06:27 GMT
Agree. For once I want to see this topic go down and die. Why? Does it upset you that people are having opinions on what constitutes the worst human tragedy? It upsets me, so I speak up when I see a discrepancy. It upsets me that people are fighting over two tragedies. They should at least hold some respect for the victims. And brown people also died in twin tower attack and it matters least that American actions may have played part in WTC attack. The victims are innocent people. People with a bit of sense would understand and not start victim bashing. Politically biased people who have little respect for human tragedies would keep fighting. There are other places to talk about political issues. This was a thread for remembering the people who lost their lives and for sympathizing with those who lost their loved ones.
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Post by goz on Oct 1, 2018 21:35:10 GMT
Why? Does it upset you that people are having opinions on what constitutes the worst human tragedy? It upsets me, so I speak up when I see a discrepancy. It upsets me that people are fighting over two tragedies. They should at least hold some respect for the victims. And brown people also died in twin tower attack and it matters least that American actions may have played part in WTC attack. The victims are innocent people. People with a bit of sense would understand and not start victim bashing. Politically biased people who have little respect for human tragedies would keep fighting. There are other places to talk about political issues. This was a thread for remembering the people who lost their lives and for sympathizing with those who lost their loved ones. It upsets me, so I speak up when I see a discrepancy.
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 1:14:28 GMT
Except for the fact that I am not a US citizen. I am a Canadian citizen. Then why do you have the opinion outlined by Toasted Cheese? Just why do you think that a terrorist event that killed a fewer number of people is more important and 'most horrifying' than events that killed hundreds of thousands in other parts of the world? I would hate to think that it is because you are brainwashed into thinking that the lives of nice white people in a large city in North America are worth more than anonymous brown people in lands far away because it was a ' natural' disaster and that The USA bore no responsibility for this terrorist outcome? Goz, I know you must be losing quite an awful lot of money on all those laxatives from the pharmacy, that have been no avail to you. None of them are curing your constipation, & I'll tell what exactly is wrong right now, & thereby, save you from further wasting your money: ((Drum roll, please)) You have your head shoved all the way up your anus hole!!!!! As a matter of fact, not only is that the reason why you have been suffering from constipation, but, why you haven't been able to see a single thing. What you really need is to get your plunger to pull your head out!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FYI Goz (& Toastedcheese too, if you happen to be reading this), I knew someone who was vacationing in Thailand when the tsunami happened (it was my BFF's cousin, as a matter of fact. She was out there with her father). She survived, thank God!!! However, rest assured, even if she & her father had been killed, I probably would still have given the same title to this topic thread, that I gave. As AJ already posted ahead of me, there were Brown people who were killed or seriously injured on 09/11/01 too. Also, there were people of ALL FAITHS (or none at all) that were killed or seriously injured that day 17 years ago. There were straight people killed; there were Gay/Lesbian people killed. Going by your animated picture on your profile page, I assume that you are probably White. While yes, I am White myself, you yourself would not have known that, as I have never posted a photo (actual or animated)of myself on this or the old IMDB message forum. I would hate to think that the reason for all ad hominem attacks against me are because of the fact that I happen to be Catholic Christian poster, who created this memorial, first, as opposed to one of the anti-theist atheists on here, & are simply looking for an excuse for all this BS!!!
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Post by goz on Oct 2, 2018 1:23:19 GMT
Wow!
Uber defensive and rude.
'It upsets me, so I speak up when I see a discrepancy.'
I saw one in your OP and called you on it.
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