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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 11, 2018 21:49:07 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 11, 2018 21:55:01 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with him on this one. Had the MCU specifically not hired actors simply for being gay then I would have agreed with him. But as far as I know that has never happened in an MCU movie and accusing the MCU of being biased against gay actors (in nicer words) simply because there aren't any gay actors currently employed with them is unfair. This quote in particular: “That we can’t have someone in a Marvel movie who’s gay in real life and plays some super hero." Is not a fair assessment, as the MCU doesn't (as far as I know) have a rule that prioritizes straight actors over LGBTQ ones. Maybe they do but until we have solid proof it's just not a fair accusation. I have no issues with gay actors playing straight characters in the same way I have no issues with straight actors playing gay characters (or gay actors playing gay characters). But attacking a film franchise simply because they have no gay actors is actually pretty darn sexist. |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 11, 2018 23:29:23 GMT
It'll come in time. Deadpool 2 was nonchalant about it and I don't think people raised a ruckus about it?
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Post by damngumby on Sept 12, 2018 0:25:50 GMT
Screw him. Well ... not literally.
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Post by darkpast on Sept 12, 2018 6:51:42 GMT
Cause most gay male actors are closeted, at least one of the Avengers is gay. Renner, Cooper, Vin closeted. Bi RDJ , Rudd.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 12, 2018 16:55:14 GMT
I kinda don't like it when an actor in one arena criticizes another arena of movies or TV, even if they're right.
He might consider this: GOTG is ending! Probably already ended for him. And MCU is another potential source of employment for him. One that could potentially be even more lucrative than GOTG has been for him. I could see MCU hiring Kit Harrington playing someone in an MCU movie.
Is he shooting himself in the foot by talking bad about a potential employer? Would they hire him after this? |
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Post by merh on Sept 13, 2018 4:25:47 GMT
Didn't Ian Mckellen out Lee Pace?
Isn't it sad when actors talk about crap they don't know about?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 13, 2018 4:39:04 GMT
He's absolutely right and I applaud him for speaking out, even if he's straight.Hey, nobody's perfect!  |
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 13, 2018 12:56:32 GMT
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Post by dazz on Sept 13, 2018 14:53:52 GMT
What is there to applaud though? he said nothing other than there should be more gay actors in leading roles...ok but thats only valid if Marvel had a gay actor and a straight one equally well equipped to play one of these characters and they chose the straight guy because and they did this multiple times, I mean who would you replace in their line ups with a gay actor, and why other than because they are gay?
Also this wasn't about LGBTQ characters but actors, and no they shouldn't have made Superman gay, Batman is fine so long as you are aware and willing to put up with the stupid "heheh knew it all along" jokes about Batman and his obsession of dressing up young boys in tights, because you know people, their dickheads, but Superman has a defining relationship which is with Lois Lane you don't fuck with that, Batman doesn't have this so he can be straight, gay, bi, he can be whatever it doesn't matter really.
But back to the original point has there been any issue with Marvel turning down a gay actor for a major superhero role? If not this is a stupid and bullshit, should we have more LGBTQ actors in lead roles? yes, when they are right for the roles, if they aren't then no, giving people jobs they don't deserve because they prefer their sexual partners have the same equipment as themselves is fucking moronic imo, give them jobs based on if they are right for the role everything else is a bunch of wanky bullshit imo.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 13, 2018 16:54:25 GMT
What is there to applaud though? he said nothing other than there should be more gay actors in leading roles...ok but thats only valid if Marvel had a gay actor and a straight one equally well equipped to play one of these characters and they chose the straight guy because and they did this multiple times, I mean who would you replace in their line ups with a gay actor, and why other than because they are gay?
Also this wasn't about LGBTQ characters but actors, and no they shouldn't have made Superman gay, Batman is fine so long as you are aware and willing to put up with the stupid "heheh knew it all along" jokes about Batman and his obsession of dressing up young boys in tights, because you know people, their dickheads, but Superman has a defining relationship which is with Lois Lane you don't fuck with that, Batman doesn't have this so he can be straight, gay, bi, he can be whatever it doesn't matter really.
But back to the original point has there been any issue with Marvel turning down a gay actor for a major superhero role? If not this is a stupid and bullshit, should we have more LGBTQ actors in lead roles? yes, when they are right for the roles, if they aren't then no, giving people jobs they don't deserve because they prefer their sexual partners have the same equipment as themselves is fucking moronic imo, give them jobs based on if they are right for the role everything else is a bunch of wanky bullshit imo.
^ pretty much my thoughts as well |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 13, 2018 18:27:13 GMT
he would have made a good harry potter.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 14, 2018 5:54:13 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with him on this one. Had the MCU specifically not hired actors simply for being gay then I would have agreed with him. But as far as I know that has never happened in an MCU movie and accusing the MCU of being biased against gay actors (in nicer words) simply because there aren't any gay actors currently employed with them is unfair. This quote in particular: “That we can’t have someone in a Marvel movie who’s gay in real life and plays some super hero." Is not a fair assessment, as the MCU doesn't (as far as I know) have a rule that prioritizes straight actors over LGBTQ ones. Maybe they do but until we have solid proof it's just not a fair accusation. I have no issues with gay actors playing straight characters in the same way I have no issues with straight actors playing gay characters (or gay actors playing gay characters). But attacking a film franchise simply because they have no gay actors is actually pretty darn sexist. That's exactly what a bigot would say. |
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 14, 2018 12:46:41 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with him on this one. Had the MCU specifically not hired actors simply for being gay then I would have agreed with him. But as far as I know that has never happened in an MCU movie and accusing the MCU of being biased against gay actors (in nicer words) simply because there aren't any gay actors currently employed with them is unfair. This quote in particular: “That we can’t have someone in a Marvel movie who’s gay in real life and plays some super hero." Is not a fair assessment, as the MCU doesn't (as far as I know) have a rule that prioritizes straight actors over LGBTQ ones. Maybe they do but until we have solid proof it's just not a fair accusation. I have no issues with gay actors playing straight characters in the same way I have no issues with straight actors playing gay characters (or gay actors playing gay characters). But attacking a film franchise simply because they have no gay actors is actually pretty darn sexist. That's exactly what a bigot would say. Pot/Kettle. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 14, 2018 12:55:05 GMT
That's exactly what a bigot would say. Pot/Kettle. Who has pot? You tryna blaze? |
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Post by poelzig on Sept 14, 2018 18:46:06 GMT
Who has pot? You tryna blaze? What is he going to do with the kettle tho? Do bigots boil their weed or something? |
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Post by dazz on Sept 14, 2018 19:33:48 GMT
Who has pot? You tryna blaze? I was going to make a joke about who is Tryna Blaze and is they related to Alundra Blaye but Blaze Blayze doesn't fit, now me sad, que the music.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 14, 2018 19:56:07 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with him on this one. Had the MCU specifically not hired actors simply for being gay then I would have agreed with him. But as far as I know that has never happened in an MCU movie and accusing the MCU of being biased against gay actors (in nicer words) simply because there aren't any gay actors currently employed with them is unfair. This quote in particular: “That we can’t have someone in a Marvel movie who’s gay in real life and plays some super hero." Is not a fair assessment, as the MCU doesn't (as far as I know) have a rule that prioritizes straight actors over LGBTQ ones. Maybe they do but until we have solid proof it's just not a fair accusation. I have no issues with gay actors playing straight characters in the same way I have no issues with straight actors playing gay characters (or gay actors playing gay characters). But attacking a film franchise simply because they have no gay actors is actually pretty darn sexist. That's exactly what a bigot would say. Name calling. Real mature. |
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Post by poelzig on Sept 14, 2018 21:07:23 GMT
That's exactly what a bigot would say. Name calling. Real mature. I didn't call you a name. I just pointed out that your side stepping and rationalizing and excuses for why it's okay for the mcu to not hire LGBTQ leads is EXACTLY the same argument a bigot would make. |
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 14, 2018 22:21:41 GMT
Name calling. Real mature. I didn't call you a name. I just pointed out that your side stepping and rationalizing and excuses for why it's okay for the mcu to not hire LGBTQ leads is EXACTLY the same argument a bigot would make. Uhuh, sure dude. Whatever you say. No use arguing with you when you seem to be misrepresenting my words. |
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