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Post by dazz on Nov 6, 2018 15:08:23 GMT
I always thought Kryptonite was deadly due to it being irradiated in space on it's way to earth and the radiation's effect combined with the properties of the different colours of it is why they have different effects, and it's Kryptonians natural ability to absorb radiation as such their heightened ability to absorb the radiation from Kryptonite is why it effects them so severely as opposed to humans who need to be exposed to either a vast amount, concentrated forms or just for prolonged periods before it did anything.
Isn't that the other thing though Kryptonite does effect people, just not as evidently as it does humans, wouldn't dispersing Kryptonite in the atmosphere cause long term effects on humans?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 6, 2018 15:21:48 GMT
It is supposed to be toxic to humans after prolonged exposure, which is how Lex lost his hand; at least pre-Flashpoint.
My preferred take on Kryptonite - and this is strictly fan wank territory - is that as part of their evolution, Kryptonian scientist discovered an element with immense energy absorption and redistribution properties, which they not only built into their the technology for its quantum properties, but eventually genetically engineered themselves to be infused with trace particles of this element - which I like to call Elisarium - into the cells of their bodies; facilitating greater connectivity to their technology.
Kryptonian scientists experimented with Elisarium and discovered different isotopes of the element, each with different properties and appearance. The green isotope was the easiest to achieve, but it's quantum properties were highly unstable and less predictable than Elisarium; and as it turned out, the green isotope was radioactive and toxic. One quality of the radiation the green isotope emitted had a unique effect, in that, when placed in proximity to stable Elisarium, it could slowly transmute the Elisarium into the green isotope; and the more energy the green isotope was fed, the more efficient this process went. When the level of green isotope was reduced to a margin level and the remaining Elisarium was sufficiently charged with the right type of energy, the process could be reversed and the remaining traces of transmuted green isotope could be converted back into Elisarium.
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Post by dazz on Nov 6, 2018 15:29:42 GMT
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 6, 2018 16:18:57 GMT
Just a basic background - isotope: two or more forms of the same element that contain equal numbers of protons but different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei, and hence differ in relative atomic mass but not in chemical properties; in particular, a radioactive form of an element.
So isotopes are basically an element with different style haircuts at the atomic level; still essentially the same thing, but subtly different and with varying properties as a result. In this case it would be like humanity discovering a super-aluminum, that when you run a current through it or put it under the sun, does all sorts of crazy stuff that scientist could put to use; like building incredibly advanced computers or develop artificial gravity - so you put it in everything. But then you tinker with super-aluminum, giving the atoms a high-top fade or a perm or whatever, and suddenly it turns green and becomes radioactive. And while that radioactivity could be put to use, its usefulness is less reliable; and instead of consistently generating anti-gravity, people's hair starts falling out or growing bone spurs out of their face. And when you put it next regular super-aluminum, it starts turning into the green stuff.
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Post by General Kenobi on Nov 6, 2018 18:14:44 GMT
Oh God. I feel like I am in grade school science class over and look like a derr caught in the headlights of an oncoming car.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 6, 2018 20:48:10 GMT
I'm betting something came up and Melissa could only be on set for a limited amount of time for this particular week.
No idea what it could have been, but there is absolutely no reason for the suit, especially one that covers her face, unless they plan on using it later in the season to save on digital effects when Russian Kara shows up.
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Post by dazz on Nov 6, 2018 21:37:50 GMT
I'm betting something came up and Melissa could only be on set for a limited amount of time for this particular week. No idea what it could have been, but there is absolutely no reason for the suit, especially one that covers her face, unless they plan on using it later in the season to save on digital effects when Russian Kara shows up. It was because she was on Broadway same reason for last weeks Melissa light episode, they filmed both at the start of filming to accommodate her schedule, I also heard some rumblings that the suit was only for these two episodes also, though they could use it later also as I think they don't have every episode written yet.
But that's the reason for the suit and the reason for the Sam Witwer focused episode last week, don't think they had to do much more to get around her schedule so it should be business as usual going forward.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 6, 2018 21:48:52 GMT
I'm betting something came up and Melissa could only be on set for a limited amount of time for this particular week. No idea what it could have been, but there is absolutely no reason for the suit, especially one that covers her face, unless they plan on using it later in the season to save on digital effects when Russian Kara shows up. It was because she was on Broadway same reason for last weeks Melissa light episode, they filmed both at the start of filming to accommodate her schedule, I also heard some rumblings that the suit was only for these two episodes also, though they could use it later also as I think they don't have every episode written yet.
But that's the reason for the suit and the reason for the Sam Witwer focused episode last week, don't think they had to do much more to get around her schedule so it should be business as usual going forward.
It was the only thing I could think of, but it just seems weird that they let her take the gig if it meant time away from Supergirl. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 6, 2018 21:51:22 GMT
The Sam Witwer focused episode was one of the best episodes of the series.
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Post by dazz on Nov 7, 2018 6:36:43 GMT
It was because she was on Broadway same reason for last weeks Melissa light episode, they filmed both at the start of filming to accommodate her schedule, I also heard some rumblings that the suit was only for these two episodes also, though they could use it later also as I think they don't have every episode written yet.
But that's the reason for the suit and the reason for the Sam Witwer focused episode last week, don't think they had to do much more to get around her schedule so it should be business as usual going forward.
It was the only thing I could think of, but it just seems weird that they let her take the gig if it meant time away from Supergirl. Could simply be CW being accommodating to their actor, they seem to like to work with their talent to keep them happy so long as it doesn't include massive pay raises, they cut back the episode order for Supernatural to give Jensen & Jared more down time, they gave Willa Holland a reduced schedule and role on Arrow for several seasons because she wanted it, same with with Darville on Legends and I think broadway is why they wrote Stein off of Legends and Garber out of his contract because he no longer wanted to do the show but go back to the stage and they agreed.
Plus how cheap The CW are they might just do this stuff to appease their stars to stick around even though the pay is considerably less than on most other networks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:22:30 GMT
Well, that was pointless. It's either to have given her more time for the play; or time off for the crossover...  We do it with characters too and I blame the news sites 'cause they get us excited about things and they turn out to be a letdown. I mean just look at a character like Onyx. Some sites were falsely reporting she was going to be back for another episode and there was the talk of her changing sides and becoming a hero helping the Green Arrow 'cause that is what the character did in the comic books but she has never been seen again. I have to say the ideas you come up with on here are often more thought out than the show and the writers could learn some things from your posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:26:28 GMT
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 21, 2018 15:38:12 GMT
Well, that was pointless. It's either to have given her more time for the play; or time off for the crossover... I fully blame the production. They put the reveal of Kara in the suit in their comic con trailer - which in their defense was probably necessary, since they subsequently wouldn't have had any footage with Melissa, but they still sensationalized the reveal and made it look like it was more than it was. It certainly didn't help that it looked an awful lot like the "Masked Superman" character from the comics; which would naturally spark some speculation to that end of what it might mean. Likewise, I still fault the writers for using characters that have more extensive histories together that the writers tease, only for them to never get out of first gear. Whether that's Onyx, or Solomon Grundy or Oliver's relationship with the fucking Black Canary. It's one thing when their hands are tied, like with Deathstroke, but it's another when it's their own shortsightedness. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 12:23:50 GMT
I agree. It was very pointless and they made it look like it was going to be something that would play a big part in at least a few episodes but now it has come and gone and we will most likely never see Kara wearing it again. I suppose we are own worst enemies in some ways 'cause we often take something like this and blow it up and think of all the different ways it could play into a season and what they could do with it without knowing it is just going to be a one or two episode thing they will disregard later. We do it with characters too and I blame the news sites 'cause they get us excited about things and they turn out to be a letdown. I mean just look at a character like Onyx. Some sites were falsely reporting she was going to be back for another episode and there was the talk of her changing sides and becoming a hero helping the Green Arrow 'cause that is what the character did in the comic books but she has never been seen again. I have to say the ideas you come up with on here are often more thought out than the show and the writers could learn some things from your posts. I fully blame the production. They put the reveal of Kara in the suit in their comic con trailer - which in their defense was probably necessary, since they subsequently wouldn't have had any footage with Melissa, but they still sensationalized the reveal and made it look like it was more than it was. It certainly didn't help that it looked an awful lot like the "Masked Superman" character from the comics; which would naturally spark some speculation to that end of what it might mean. Likewise, I still fault the writers for using characters that have more extensive histories together that the writers tease, only for them to never get out of first gear. Whether that's Onyx, or Solomon Grundy or Oliver's relationship with the fucking Black Canary. It's one thing when their hands are tied, like with Deathstroke, but it's another when it's their own shortsightedness.
I know you weren't a fan of the Huntress and the Hawks but I think Ragman and them should return and it annoys me that they aren't mentioned when they were such big parts of the seasons they were in. 
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Post by BexxyJ on Jan 8, 2019 7:27:44 GMT
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Post by General Kenobi on Jan 10, 2019 18:53:21 GMT
Look, when you have people defendingto Zack Snyder, do you really expect fans to demand higher standard of quality?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 12:37:36 GMT
Look, when you have people defendingto Zack Snyder, do you really expect fans to demand higher standard of quality?  |
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Post by dazz on Feb 21, 2019 21:19:01 GMT
Look, when you have people defendingto Zack Snyder, do you really expect fans to demand higher standard of quality? I think the problem with Zack is he has the good big ideas, and he has great visuals but he doesn't know just how to piece it all together, you tweak a handful of scenes in the movie just a bit and I think MOS is an amazing film, things like letting the kdis dorwn thing, that should have not been said out loud but said with a look, just for a moment then Jonathan affirms Clark did the right thing, you show him as a father however think "maybe you should have" but know he cannot tell his son than and it's wrong to think so, Jonathan in Smallville did this so well, the conflict between the good man and the protective father and what a struggle it was at times for him to know how to be both especially with Clark as his son.
The 1% chance scene in BVS was the same way, Bruce clearly is talking about killing Superman in that scene, he should have been talking about being prepared to kill him, that's Batman, if there is a 1% chance Superman goes bad then they need to be able to kill him, but to kill him just on a chance, that's not Batman.
It's amazing how many things fall apart when you are off or wrong due to a simple mistake or small amount, or how important a seemingly insignificant thing can truly be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 7:32:49 GMT
I am surprised over how some people worship Zack Snyder and think he is some type of God when it comes to making superhero movies and I come across something on the internet earlier today that said Zack was ahead of his time and was underappreciated and one day people will look back and see what a genius he was and I think some people are deluded but I suppose it is their opinion to have. As a longtime DC reader I found the majority of his movies disappointing and I think he should go back to making more movies like the remake of 'Dawn of the Dead.' Superheroes just really aren't his genre in my opinion. I think the problem with Zack is he has the good big ideas, and he has great visuals but he doesn't know just how to piece it all together, you tweak a handful of scenes in the movie just a bit and I think MOS is an amazing film, things like letting the kdis dorwn thing, that should have not been said out loud but said with a look, just for a moment then Jonathan affirms Clark did the right thing, you show him as a father however think "maybe you should have" but know he cannot tell his son than and it's wrong to think so, Jonathan in Smallville did this so well, the conflict between the good man and the protective father and what a struggle it was at times for him to know how to be both especially with Clark as his son.
The 1% chance scene in BVS was the same way, Bruce clearly is talking about killing Superman in that scene, he should have been talking about being prepared to kill him, that's Batman, if there is a 1% chance Superman goes bad then they need to be able to kill him, but to kill him just on a chance, that's not Batman.
It's amazing how many things fall apart when you are off or wrong due to a simple mistake or small amount, or how important a seemingly insignificant thing can truly be.
Jonathan was played out to be Clark's idol in many ways and a good person but we didn't see that in 'Man of Steel.' 
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 9, 2019 0:30:15 GMT
Zack Snyder isn't a bad director but he does not understand Superman at all.
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It is fine to like superhero movies but when you are saying a story about a person wearing some lamewad costume fighting evil with superpowers the standards have hit rock bottom. 