The Lost One
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 24, 2017 13:56:31 GMT
Did anyone else find it a bit weird how the good characters started using the unforgivable curses? Harry tries to use them against both Bellatrix L'Estrange and Snape. They don't work and he does them following the deaths of Sirius and Dumbledore respectively so he can perhaps be forgiven for the unforgivable (heh!) there.
But then in Book 7, Harry uses the Imperius curse on Travers and one of the Gringotts Goblins. It could be argued he hadn't much choice but it seems odd Harry shows no regret and is not admonished by Hermione.
Harry uses the Cruciatus curse on Amycus Carrow because he spat at McGonagall which seems a bit of an extreme reaction. Even odder is rather than tell him off, McGonagall then uses the Imperius curse on Carrow, yet all she does with him is tie him up - one would think a stunning spell would have done the trick better.
Also it seems odd these three are forbidden - for instance using a stunning spell on someone on a broomstick would kill them as surely as the Killing curse would but only the latter is forbidden. There are various spells that could hurt others which could be used as torture but only Cruciatus is banned. Befuddling etc could be used to manipulate people much like the Imperius curse - Snape uses it in that way against Mundungus Fletcher. It seems the only distinction between the three unforgivable curses and other dangerous spells is the former are designed to kill, torture, maim and control while the others could be used for that, but also have less dangerous uses. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 30, 2017 19:53:51 GMT
Bingo. Those spells have no other purpose than that. And do they have any counter spells? I know the Avada Kedavra doesn't.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2017 7:02:54 GMT
Bingo. Those spells have no other purpose than that. And do they have any counter spells? I know the Avada Kedavra doesn't. Well, except "being Harry Potter."  |
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Post by SciFive on May 24, 2017 20:07:00 GMT
Bingo. Those spells have no other purpose than that. And do they have any counter spells? I know the Avada Kedavra doesn't. Well, except "being Harry Potter." It was his mother's love (her sacrifice to save Harry) that was the counter magic to beat Avada Kedavra. Love is the strongest magic of all. |
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 14, 2017 15:04:19 GMT
SciFive, you just may have summarized the entire HP series in seven words.
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Post by SciFive on Nov 14, 2017 15:18:41 GMT
SciFive, you just may have summarized the entire HP series in seven words. Thanks!  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 18:00:31 GMT
Apparently what makes them "Unforgivable" is that you have to tap into dark, sadistic feelings to be able to use them. For the Killing Curse you have to want to kill the person (even though this can be for good), for the Imperio it's apparently you wanting to subvert someone else's will and Crucio works only if you're a sadist who wants to inflict pain purely for pleasure.
Of course, the story treats it as okay if Harry does any of them.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 21, 2017 21:37:39 GMT
Desperate times, desperate measures.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 22:04:58 GMT
Desperate times, desperate measures. Problem is, the story doesn't point this out. It just has Harry use them and no one seems to feel bad about it. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Nov 28, 2017 17:35:52 GMT
SciFive, you just may have summarized the entire HP series in seven words. And seven is an important number in HP. |
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