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Post by Vits on Sept 13, 2018 16:50:08 GMT
I give it a 3/10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 20:51:40 GMT
indeed a 3 is all it gets from me too. a terrible rip-off of the Towering Inferno, Die Hard and countless other action movies. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Dec 7, 2018 12:23:45 GMT
7/10
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Post by politicidal on May 27, 2019 14:34:43 GMT
3/10. The Rock's worst movie since Doom (2005).
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Post by permutojoe on May 27, 2019 15:07:29 GMT
5.5. I liked the building design but other than that, pretty weak.
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Post by rogerthat on May 27, 2019 17:37:18 GMT
I gave it a 4. I would have rated it lower, but it reminded me I have The Towering Inferno in my media library and I was grateful for that.
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Post by sjg on Dec 7, 2020 8:17:02 GMT
6/10
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 7, 2020 11:52:16 GMT
So bad I could not finish it. 3/10
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Post by Vits on Dec 7, 2020 15:49:09 GMT
So bad I could not finish it. 3/10 But we can't rate movies that we don't watch in their entirety.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 7, 2020 20:37:23 GMT
So bad I could not finish it. 3/10 But we can't rate movies that we don't watch in their entirety. Just watch me.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 7, 2020 20:40:33 GMT
So bad I could not finish it. 3/10 But we can't rate movies that we don't watch in their entirety. I mean, if someone serves you a meal that is so bad it makes you want to vomit, you can only rate it if you eat the whole thing? You seriously think something that was a turd in the first half hour is going to miraculously become award-quality in the third act? Who makes up these goofy rules? Do you realize that if only people who watch the whole thing record ratings, it artificially inflates the rating?
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Post by Vits on Dec 7, 2020 21:45:38 GMT
I mean, if someone serves you a meal that is so bad it makes you want to vomit, you can only rate it if you eat the whole thing? That's not a good analogy. A mean is a whole. You can eat it in any order and the taste won't really change. A story has progression. You seriously think something that was a turd in the first half hour is going to miraculously become award-quality in the third act? Yes. It has happened. There have also been great movies ruined by the last act. Do you realize that if only people who watch the whole thing record ratings, it artificially inflates the rating? Ummm... How?
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 7, 2020 23:59:49 GMT
I mean, if someone serves you a meal that is so bad it makes you want to vomit, you can only rate it if you eat the whole thing? That's not a good analogy. A mean is a whole. You can eat it in any order and the taste won't really change. A story has progression. Meals can have progression too. Hated the wine choices. Hated the appetizers. Hated the bread. Hated the soup. Hated the first main course. "You can't rate it until you finish the dessert and the mints!"  You seriously think something that was a turd in the first half hour is going to miraculously become award-quality in the third act? Yes. It has happened. There have also been great movies ruined by the last act. No. Something that seems perfect initially can always turn out to have flaws. But something that has serious flaws initially can never turn out to be perfect. It's like, a world-class pianist can have a bad night, but a horrible amateur player will never play a difficult piece at a world-class level. Do you realize that if only people who watch the whole thing record ratings, it artificially inflates the rating? Ummm... How? Let's say 100 people start watching a 2-hour movie. 95 of them hate the first 45 minutes and walk out. 5 of them watch to the end. You only allow the 5 who stayed to vote. 4 of the 5 rate it 9/10, the other one rates it 8/10. Final tally, using your methodology, rounds to 9/10. That's not an accurate assessment of how the audience viewed it. (And the 95 who hated it tell all their friends about how bad it was and write bad reviews of it. It tanks at the box office. Nobody except film students and OCD film geeks ever hears anything else about it.)
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Post by Vits on Dec 8, 2020 11:11:44 GMT
Meals can have progression too. Hated the wine choices. Hated the appetizers. Hated the bread. Hated the soup. Hated the first main course. "You can't rate it until you finish the dessert and the mints!" Ah, that's what you meant by "meal"? I thought you meant one specific dish. something that has serious flaws initially can never turn out to be perfect. Haven't you seen ONWARD? It's like, a world-class pianist can have a bad night, but a horrible amateur player will never play a difficult piece at a world-class level. That analogy would apply if were talking about a person (actor, director, etc.). Let's say 100 people start watching a 2-hour movie. 95 of them hate the first 45 minutes and walk out. 5 of them watch to the end. You only allow the 5 who stayed to vote. 4 of the 5 rate it 9/10, the other one rates it 8/10. Final tally, using your methodology, rounds to 9/10. That's not an accurate assessment of how the audience viewed it. (And the 95 who hated it tell all their friends about how bad it was and write bad reviews of it. It tanks at the box office. Nobody except film students and OCD film geeks ever hears anything else about it.) By any chance, have you heard about MIGNONNES (CUTIES)?
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 8, 2020 19:05:22 GMT
Meals can have progression too. Hated the wine choices. Hated the appetizers. Hated the bread. Hated the soup. Hated the first main course. "You can't rate it until you finish the dessert and the mints!" Ah, that's what you meant by "meal"? I thought you meant one specific dish. something that has serious flaws initially can never turn out to be perfect. Haven't you seen ONWARD? It's like, a world-class pianist can have a bad night, but a horrible amateur player will never play a difficult piece at a world-class level. That analogy would apply if were talking about a person (actor, director, etc.). Let's say 100 people start watching a 2-hour movie. 95 of them hate the first 45 minutes and walk out. 5 of them watch to the end. You only allow the 5 who stayed to vote. 4 of the 5 rate it 9/10, the other one rates it 8/10. Final tally, using your methodology, rounds to 9/10. That's not an accurate assessment of how the audience viewed it. (And the 95 who hated it tell all their friends about how bad it was and write bad reviews of it. It tanks at the box office. Nobody except film students and OCD film geeks ever hears anything else about it.) By any chance, have you heard about MIGNONNES (CUTIES)? Another analogy would be judging something like a gymnastics or figure skating performance. If someone falls multiple times early in the act, you don't have to watch to the end to know that they are not going to get a high rating. An obsessive nitpicker will insist that you have to watch the whole thing to know if it's going to be a 2/10 or a 3/10. But does it really matter that much at that level? Who cares? I have not seen or heard of Onward or Mignonnes.
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Post by Vits on Dec 8, 2020 20:35:03 GMT
Another analogy would be judging something like a gymnastics or figure skating performance. If someone falls multiple times early in the act, you don't have to watch to the end to know that they are not going to get a high rating. An obsessive nitpicker will insist that you have to watch the whole thing to know if it's going to be a 2/10 or a 3/10. But does it really matter that much at that level? Who cares? Who's the one who stops watching it in this analogy? The judges? No, because it's their job. If the details didn't matter, the judges would only say "Pass" or "Fail" instead of specifying with a number (especially if they use decimals). That would be compared to a film critic. No, I wouldn't take a newspaper review/video review seriously if the critic admits that they walked out. I have not seen or heard of Onward or Mignonnes. The former got better towards the end. The latter is the most controversial film of the year. So many people condemned it just by seeing a poster (which was misleading). Then they condemned it by watching out-of-context clips shared on social media. A lot of people who've actually seen the movie have given it good grades. It's even won awards and it was a runner-up to represent France at the Oscars.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 9, 2020 0:35:29 GMT
Another analogy would be judging something like a gymnastics or figure skating performance. If someone falls multiple times early in the act, you don't have to watch to the end to know that they are not going to get a high rating. An obsessive nitpicker will insist that you have to watch the whole thing to know if it's going to be a 2/10 or a 3/10. But does it really matter that much at that level? Who cares? Who's the one who stops watching it in this analogy? The judges? No, because it's their job. If the details didn't matter, the judges would only say "Pass" or "Fail" instead of specifying with a number (especially if they use decimals). That would be compared to a film critic. No, I wouldn't take a newspaper review/video review seriously if the critic admits that they walked out. You're entitled to your opinion. If a professional critic says they walked out, that tells me a lot about the film (assuming I know something about the critics tastes). I see this kind of fundamentalism as akin to insisting a food critic cannot judge a new restaurant until she has tried every dish on the menu (and all of the specials that aren't on the menu).
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Post by Vits on Dec 9, 2020 10:22:22 GMT
I see this kind of fundamentalism as akin to insisting a food critic cannot judge a new restaurant until she has tried every dish on the menu (and all of the specials that aren't on the menu). No, that would be like a critic(?) judging a film studio/production company and decides to not watch any more of their movies after forming an opinion.
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