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Post by simplemoviecommenter on Sept 14, 2018 16:49:32 GMT
It would have been much more suitable in an Obi-Wan movie. He was actually there and saw it all, saw it all fail. And a movie set all on Tatooine with an Obi-wan adventure could have much more space and time to explore it as well as any redemption he may find or change to the Jedi ways. With Luke it is all rushed and sloppy and how it is told and his conclusions makes no sense.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 3, 2018 14:47:46 GMT
Agreed. though I think Obi wan was a better Jedi than Jake Skywalker was.
JJ set up the mess, RJ delivered.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 5, 2018 5:25:47 GMT
Agreed. though I think Obi wan was a better Jedi than Jake Skywalker was. JJ set up the mess, RJ delivered. It's important to remember the former. There's a weird general consensus in certain circles that TLJ is bad because it spoiled all the amazingly amazing stuff JJ so deftly set up in Farce Awakens, which of course couldn't be further from the truth. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 28, 2021 18:55:01 GMT
Obi-Wan had the hope of Luke and Leia to fall back on. He was also indoctrinated since early childhood to the point that he could say something like "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" with zero irony.
Next to failure, history is a great teacher. The Jedi Order fell twice in a half-century, once before Luke's very eyes. He'd also probably had some conversations with Ghost Dad and realized how arrogant and misguided the former Jedi had been. The old "the Jedi sat on their asses worrying about tax disputes while your grandmother was kept in slavery" talk.
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 28, 2021 20:13:54 GMT
I don't think Obi-Wan would lose his faith (not as far as Disney Jake Skywalker did at least). He most certainly could be "licking his wounds" in a sense after Episode 3, but despair when he had Luke, Leia, Yoda, Qui-Gon, and the Rebellion? Nah.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Jul 1, 2021 20:13:27 GMT
Disagree, Obi-Wan was always one of the most faithful of jedi, for better or worse. Honestly, there was never a problem with Luke losing his faith in the order and it's teachings, TLJ just did almost everything rather poorly.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 6, 2021 14:14:25 GMT
The loss of faith and critique of the Jedi could've gone to Luke, but if that's what they wanted to explore, then the new trilogy should've focused on Luke, Han and Leia instead of a new cast.
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