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Post by darkpast on Sept 16, 2018 3:39:09 GMT
ITS ALL CONNECTED
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 16, 2018 3:43:51 GMT
I don’t see how it’s exploitative. Apart from the Flash, most of the characters who headline their own television shows don’t appear in the movies. There is no Green Arrow or Dick Grayson on the film side of things. I actually think that lazily trying to cram the shows into the continuity of the films is far more exploitative. As you said, it’s done for marketing purposes, not because it’s creatively viable to do so. We're going to have to agree to disagree and, furthermore, I think even the most casual MCU fan would also disagree. There is nothing inherently wrong with trying to create a shared universe across media channels either for creative or business reasons (or both). In my opinion, the DC approach is far more "lazy" as it requires little coordination, collaboration or accountability to hardcore fans and casual consumers. Frankly, as a devoted fan of Marvel media and publishing, I find the notion that the shared universe aspects of the MCU television shows and films should be dismantled, offensive. Why is there all this emphasis on tearing down an initiative that does not intrude on the joy of the uncommitted but, adds values for those who are? The narrative seems malicious and meanspirited in its arbitrariness. If you are a fan of the way DC/WB handles their televisions and film properties, more power to you. I enjoy the references across channels to a single universe because it is the guiding principle on which comic books are based. I never said I enjoy one or the other. I don’t even keep up with most of the DC shows. I just find this notion that what DC is doing is any “lazier” than what Marvel is doing to be absurd. Again, the movies will never acknowledge the shows anytime soon, and the only acknowledgement that the shows make of the movies are some occasional references.That doesn’t require any kind of effort, especially when there’s a good chance that Kevin Feige doesn’t even watch the shows. Like I said earlier, I don’t care for the movies to reference the shows, and I’m not even saying the shows can’t reference the movies, but to suggest that what they’re doing is any less “lazy” than what DC is doing is nonsensical. Edit: Great, DC-Fan liked my post...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 16, 2018 3:47:45 GMT
We're going to have to agree to disagree and, furthermore, I think even the most casual MCU fan would also disagree. There is nothing inherently wrong with trying to create a shared universe across media channels either for creative or business reasons (or both). In my opinion, the DC approach is far more "lazy" as it requires little coordination, collaboration or accountability to hardcore fans and casual consumers. Frankly, as a devoted fan of Marvel media and publishing, I find the notion that the shared universe aspects of the MCU television shows and films should be dismantled, offensive. Why is there all this emphasis on tearing down an initiative that does not intrude on the joy of the uncommitted but, adds values for those who are? The narrative seems malicious and meanspirited in its arbitrariness. If you are a fan of the way DC/WB handles their televisions and film properties, more power to you. I enjoy the references across channels to a single universe because it is the guiding principle on which comic books are based. I never said I enjoy one or the other. I don’t even keep up with most of the DC shows. I just find this notion that what DC is doing is any “lazier” than what Marvel is doing to be absurd. Again, the movies will never acknowledge the shows anytime soon, and the only acknowledgement that the shows make of the movies are some occasional references.That doesn’t require any kind of effort, especially when there’s a good chance that Kevin Feige doesn’t even watch the shows. Like I said earlier, I don’t care for the movies to reference the shows, and I’m not even saying the shows can’t reference the movies, but to suggest that what they’re doing is any less “lazy” than what DC is doing is nonsensical. Fair enough, I revise "lazy" to read as "less purposeful and less intentional."
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 16, 2018 3:53:51 GMT
I suppose I will just point out that this thread wasn’t meant to criticize the MCU. I definitely don’t fault the movies for not acknowledging the shows, and why should they, when Kevin Feige has nothing to do with the latter? I merely made this thread because I find the whole situation to be interesting.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 16, 2018 4:07:22 GMT
I suppose I will just point out that this thread wasn’t meant to criticize the MCU. I definitely don’t fault the movies for not acknowledging the shows, and why should they, when Kevin Feige has nothing to do with the latter? I merely made this thread because I find the whole situation to be interesting. I didn't interpret this post as an attack on the MCU. All due respect to you, I just found the justifications for your reasoning as arbitrary as you appear to believe the connected nature of the shared universe is across TV and film. Your opening salvo is this. I find the question to be somewhat disingenuous and the answer to be self-evident. Of course, there is no burden on you to agree. By the way, I suspect that DC-Fan liked your post only because it runs contrary to my own. He is incapable of fathoming that two people can disagree respectfully without bitterness or hatred. DC-Fan has the mentality of a child.
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