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Post by novastar6 on Sept 23, 2018 15:51:46 GMT
I thought I might have better odds of getting an answer here than the commercials section. I just saw this ad last night, it opens up with '30% of children aren't socially ready for school', '90% of kids will be bullied in grade school', and then points out it's soooooo hard to be a parent AND teach your kids the stuff they need to know, so the answer is this new tablet for kids 3-10 which will teach them EVERYTHING they need to know to get ready for school by having celebrities sing and dance with a stupid animated monkey, 'and it can be yours in 4 easy payments of $19.99'. Dumbest thing I've seen on TV yet and I've seen plenty, but I would've SWORN they called it Wunder Tablet or Wonder Tablet, tried looking it up, couldn't find anything. Does anybody know WHAT it's called? I want to see if there are actually any reviews for it and see if anybody's actually dumb enough to buy into this crap.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 23, 2018 18:45:12 GMT
Oh. For a moment I thought you were talking about a tablet like a pill, not a tablet like an iPad. Boy am I out of the loop.  Is it this one? It’s called a Wonder Tablet. I haven’t found a commercial for it yet, though. And I agree: I’d never give a child of mine a “tablet.” Dear God, never. We’re way too reliant on technology as is. |
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Post by novastar6 on Sept 23, 2018 23:11:11 GMT
That could be the one. I really thought it was insulting the way they go on and on about 'your kids will learn so much from special guest celebrities dancing and singing with a monkey to learn social issues', for the record, none of which the ones whose names were shown, I've ever heard of, so not really sure why a 3 year old's going to be impressed with them either.
And really, it took me back to the stupid ABCMouse.com ads, where the dad says 'I WANTED to teach her numbers and colors but...*sigh* it's just so hard! So the website did it for me, and the teachers complimented me on teaching her so much, I told them 'oh no, the site did it all, I didn't do anything'. And people DON'T see anything condescending about this crap?
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Post by deembastille on Sept 23, 2018 23:17:29 GMT
Well, kindergarten children are expected to leave the grade reading. Kindergarten is no longer kindergarten as we remember it from the 80s. It's pretty first grade. No longer is the only thing you really need to learn is how to get along with other people. They want you learning earlier. Couple that with a home language barrier, anti-education parents, and/or both and you're in for a whole mess of trouble.
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Post by novastar6 on Sept 24, 2018 0:59:31 GMT
Well, kindergarten children are expected to leave the grade reading. Kindergarten is no longer kindergarten as we remember it from the 80s. It's pretty first grade. No longer is the only thing you really need to learn is how to get along with other people. They want you learning earlier. Couple that with a home language barrier, anti-education parents, and/or both and you're in for a whole mess of trouble.
And people thought my mom was anal retentive for teaching me to read at 2. To me a 5 year old who can't read, even though I did know one when I was a teenager, is still akin to beyond my comprehension.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 24, 2018 1:04:04 GMT
Luckily, for me, I was reading pretty much as soon as I came out of the womb. Seriously, my mother says that even as a baby I was tearing the books off the shelves, pretending to read them, when the other kids were playing with toys. I did go to a private kindergarten run by these two women who taught us storytelling, music, writing in cursive (!), and a whole bunch of other tasks that got me considered above my years, so that when I got to public elementary school I was placed two years ahead. (We read fairly advanced books for kindergarten, including Washington Irving and Roald Dahl, and we often sang show tunes.) I’m really lucky that I had that start in kindergarten and in reading…  I also had a great 4th great public school teacher who taught us how to analyze a newspaper, balance a checkbook, and critique live-theatre. (I know.) She also showed us old films and developed in all of us a love for The Twilight Zone. She taught us the game craps, which is what eventually got her—not fired, but transferred to office-work, mostly. Yet I think I learned more in that class than 1-3rd grades put together… Real world stuff, which has helped immeasurably. |
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Post by deembastille on Sept 24, 2018 2:05:15 GMT
Well, kindergarten children are expected to leave the grade reading. Kindergarten is no longer kindergarten as we remember it from the 80s. It's pretty first grade. No longer is the only thing you really need to learn is how to get along with other people. They want you learning earlier. Couple that with a home language barrier, anti-education parents, and/or both and you're in for a whole mess of trouble. And people thought my mom was anal retentive for teaching me to read at 2. To me a 5 year old who can't read, even though I did know one when I was a teenager, is still akin to beyond my comprehension.
You are not really reading until you can understand what is going on within the text. Reading sight words (the, and) also helps. Muddling through the story thanks to pictures doesn't prove much other than the kid knew to pay attention to the pictures. It's like a toddler "reading" Mc Donald's because of the arches. It happens all the time. It's only when they realize that green eggs and ham is about trying new things and making new friends is that truly reading. |
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Post by novastar6 on Sept 24, 2018 5:41:32 GMT
And people thought my mom was anal retentive for teaching me to read at 2. To me a 5 year old who can't read, even though I did know one when I was a teenager, is still akin to beyond my comprehension.
You are not really reading until you can understand what is going on within the text. Reading sight words (the, and) also helps. Muddling through the story thanks to pictures doesn't prove much other than the kid knew to pay attention to the pictures. It's like a toddler "reading" Mc Donald's because of the arches. It happens all the time. It's only when they realize that green eggs and ham is about trying new things and making new friends is that truly reading.
I wouldn't know, we never had that book.
I do remember our parents got the Hooked on Phonics (which my mom said was a big mistake because it was very frustrating, that part I don't remember) and when I was able to on my own read several of the short stories in the book that came with it, looked like the damn Yellow Pages, and how accomplished I felt because nobody read them to me, I just picked the book up and I could open it to any story and start reading, I knew all the words and I knew what was going on in the stories, and it was something I did when nobody was looking so they didn't know anything about it.
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Post by deembastille on Sept 24, 2018 22:00:12 GMT
Hukt on fonix werkt fer me.
That was the problem with HoP. It focused on sounding out words but inadvertently taught invented spelling as law by mistake.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 24, 2018 22:06:20 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 23:45:48 GMT
I started school already knowing how to read (and understand) … the teacher had us underline words in a newspaper that we recognized and then had us read them aloud to see what level readers we were. She was very suspicious when she saw that my whole page was red but reading out loud convinced her that I was not just expressing myself artistically. I was then sent off to read books of my choice while the rest of the class was working their way through the adventures of Jim and Judy. They eventually caught up ! (Most of them ! ) BTW .. great way to make a kid feel "part of the group" .. not ! |
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Post by poelzig on Sept 26, 2018 1:34:34 GMT
Is it the pad ophile?
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