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Post by dazz on Feb 23, 2019 12:48:58 GMT
Well WWF did intend to push Buff at first, but then Buff's attitude immediately pissed people off, his first match Pat Patterson iirc tried telling him ok this is a WWF city, WCW never got over here so don't worry if the fans give you shit at first, have a great match and win them over that's all we want, Buff responded by telling Pat fucking Patterson "Pat you don't understand, I am a huge star, these fans love me" only to go out get shitty response and put on a shitty match with Booker T, the reaction of which killed the Invasion plans pretty much, then he got his mother o call in sick for him with JR, and he called up WWE head office or something well I think he got his mother to do it again, but called up WWF HQ complaining he deserved first class treatment and limo's to the arena just like DDP & Big Show were getting, not figuring Page & Show were paying for the limo treatment out of pocket, then Buff tried big dogging Shane Helms at a workout session and Helms ended up cracking the back of Buff's head open, so WWF just decided fuck this guy all he does is cause problems and whine.
But the Invasion did suffer but a lot of that's not on WWF guys like Hogan, Nash, Goldberg were on such big money deals even when WWF offered them contracts they turned them down to collect the free money, Nash himself said WWF offered 50% of Nash's outstanding contract as a annual downside, the other 50% as a signing bonus, and Nash would have let WCW buy out his contract at 50% so he could have made say $3 million by going to the WWF downside but he decided $2 million for no work was a better deal for him, which is obvious a lot of the guys felt as you think Flair, Nash, Hogan, Steiner, Goldberg all joined WWF right after their contracts ran out.
Page though was another guy destined to fail because he was too set in his ways, for one he couldn't flat back bump which is WWE style for heels, X-Pac tells a story about realising how fucked Page was one night whilst he was feeding a Taker comeback, instead of doing the quick flatbacks and popping up comeback style like you are meant to, Page did these weird belly flop bumps, and Taker kept dropping him for his comeback then stopped stared Page down and gave him one last hit and page again did the belly bump and Taker looked pissed, plus Page's habvit of wanting to script out everymatch, literally script it out on paper probably didn't go down well with the WWF's then mentality, I agree the stalker thing didn't do him any favours but then again even his push in WCW didn't, he was another top guy during WCW's dying period, his big pushed when they were hot only came about when he was teaming with a celebrity, so how big a star Page was in actuality probably in question in the WWF.
It would be funny if they had him debut in WWE as Joseph Parks and they put him in a match with a wrestler like Brock Lesnar and he thinks he is going to be easy to defeat and laughs at him and then he goes underneath the ring and comes back out as Abyss and destroys them and this could be the beginning of an exciting time in the WWE and the era of 'The Monster Abyss' if the writers handle him right which the writers of TNA sadly didn't do sometimes and I thought it was a mistake not having Abyss defeat Bully Ray for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship when Bully Ray had the Aces and Eights with him. I didn't know those things about Buff Bagwell so thanks for letting me know and wow, he sounds like he must have been very difficult to work with and I can see why they decided not to keep him but I still think Diamond Dallas Page could have gone over if they had him turn face and go against Steve Austin when they had the Alliance but the stalker storyline made that hard to do back then and didn't make sense with DDP's character.
The Invasion did suffer majorly 'cause of the lack of superstars they got and some people think it would have been better if they had held it off and waited until they had more of the top WCW stars like they got later and instead of having WCW as the heels let the fans decide what team they wanted to go for but I think it was obvious an opposing team was always going to be the heels which is perhaps better they didn't have the likes of Goldberg and Rey Mysterio at the time 'cause neither were really good as heels and Goldberg hated playing a heel and his heel turn in WCW lasted a few days and he went back to being face 'cause he had just spent the day with a sick little boy in hospital who was looking forward to seeing his hero on screen and Goldberg wanted to go out and perform for kids like that and didn't want to play the bad guy. I think the NWO Invasion of WWE was handled better to begin with but they turned Hulk Hogan back face too quickly which took away from it and they had Undertaker playing a heel at the time.
The Undertaker should have been part of that feud in my opinion and they could have had Steve Austin, The Rock and the Undertaker vs NWO in a Six Men Tag Team match and the Undertaker vs Kevin Nash while Steve Austin and the Rock were facing Scott Hall and Hulk Hogan. They could have also had the Undertaker and Kane vs the Outsiders. Scott Hall being absent and having to replace him with other superstars didn't help either and I don't get what happened there or when Kevin Nash came back when Triple H was the WWE Champion and they made him a face and he disappeared for months again. That was the most cheers I heard him get in WWE at that time and they kinda blew it not having him go over Triple H. 
The thing with Nash was he worked with Y2J after losing the HIAC to HHH, then he had to leave in august to film The Punisher which is why he lost his hair match with Y2J also, other than that Nash spent 10 months between Backlash 03-Backlash04 injured with either his bicep or his quad, then during his time off in late 04 he also got a neck surgery and WWE didn't renew his deal.
As for Hall he burnt out, he told WWE he couldn't do a full schedule so WWE signed him for a 10-14 day a month deal, not sure which it was, but he ended up doing like 24 shows a month or something silly like that and his demons just got to him, at which point WWE just said nah not going to risk this and let him go.
I agree the nWo run could have gone longer but only in theory, how far was it going to go when Hall is gone and Nash is injured for 10 months out of the year? as it was they got another feel good run out of Hogan by turning him babyface which was probably better for their bank accounts in the long run.
I did hear about abyss but from what I hear he isn't coming in as talent but as a producer, which makes sense, also couldn't see a Kane Vs Abyss fued taking place anyway, Kane's stepping away from performing from what I gather since he won his election for Mayor or Knox County, besides I doubt WWE wants to put Abyss on TV back in the day he was great but that was almost a decade ago, dudes 45 now, doubt he could handle a WWE schedule especially after the crazy shit he put himself through, I am happy he has a job with them though, shows how respected he is, I never heard he turned down a WM match out of loyalty to TNA, don't know how much I buy that, could be legit or just overblown speculation, but some crazy stuff has been spoke of in the past, did you hear that Foley pitched bringing Punk & Joe into the WWF back in 04 where he was basically going to say when he fought orton he thought he was fighting the cream of the new crop, but he was wrong Punk & Joe or the best in the world today, not pretty boys like Orton, but Vince didn't bite apparently.
The WCW Invasion was an issue but it was also a thing where WWE had their hands tied, they tried getting another hour or 2 on TV for a WCW show but no one wanted it, and neither TNN or UPN were willing to replace the hot WWF product with a WCW one, so WWF couldn't do what they intended which was to give WCW it's own show and run it separatel, when that happened all they had was the invasion and with that the longer they leave those guys doing nothing the more money they are spending on nothing and the more those guys matter, if it were me I would have gone to NJPW or AJPW maybe even AAA or CMLL and offer them some of the WCW guys under loans similar to what football teams do, and you make it clear you don't beat them unless WWF give the ok as to protect their people, this way keeps them active and in high spots whilst WWE don't have to pay them any money as they look to buy time.
But whats done is done.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 11:13:10 GMT
OMG. Have you heard the big news Dazz? WWE have signed Chris Parks? Abyss is FINALLY coming to the WWE and we might get Abyss vs Kane, Abyss vs Brock Lesnar, Abyss vs Braun Strowman and Abyss vs the Undertaker and I have always wanted to see Abyss in WWE and I heard he turned down a Wresltemania match a few years back with the Undertaker due to his loyalty to TNA at the time but Impact doesn’t look to be in the best of shape these days with WWE taking many of their big name stars so I don’t blame him for leaving going to the WWE while he still can. Are you a fan of Abyss Dazz? I am interested if Chris will just be playing Abyss or he will be playing Abyss and Joseph Parks ‘cause he has been playing Joseph Parks on and off for a while now too and a lot of his fans have liked both.
It would be funny if they had him debut in WWE as Joseph Parks and they put him in a match with a wrestler like Brock Lesnar and he thinks he is going to be easy to defeat and laughs at him and then he goes underneath the ring and comes back out as Abyss and destroys them and this could be the beginning of an exciting time in the WWE and the era of 'The Monster Abyss' if the writers handle him right which the writers of TNA sadly didn't do sometimes and I thought it was a mistake not having Abyss defeat Bully Ray for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship when Bully Ray had the Aces and Eights with him. I didn't know those things about Buff Bagwell so thanks for letting me know and wow, he sounds like he must have been very difficult to work with and I can see why they decided not to keep him but I still think Diamond Dallas Page could have gone over if they had him turn face and go against Steve Austin when they had the Alliance but the stalker storyline made that hard to do back then and didn't make sense with DDP's character.
The Invasion did suffer majorly 'cause of the lack of superstars they got and some people think it would have been better if they had held it off and waited until they had more of the top WCW stars like they got later and instead of having WCW as the heels let the fans decide what team they wanted to go for but I think it was obvious an opposing team was always going to be the heels which is perhaps better they didn't have the likes of Goldberg and Rey Mysterio at the time 'cause neither were really good as heels and Goldberg hated playing a heel and his heel turn in WCW lasted a few days and he went back to being face 'cause he had just spent the day with a sick little boy in hospital who was looking forward to seeing his hero on screen and Goldberg wanted to go out and perform for kids like that and didn't want to play the bad guy. I think the NWO Invasion of WWE was handled better to begin with but they turned Hulk Hogan back face too quickly which took away from it and they had Undertaker playing a heel at the time.
The Undertaker should have been part of that feud in my opinion and they could have had Steve Austin, The Rock and the Undertaker vs NWO in a Six Men Tag Team match and the Undertaker vs Kevin Nash while Steve Austin and the Rock were facing Scott Hall and Hulk Hogan. They could have also had the Undertaker and Kane vs the Outsiders. Scott Hall being absent and having to replace him with other superstars didn't help either and I don't get what happened there or when Kevin Nash came back when Triple H was the WWE Champion and they made him a face and he disappeared for months again. That was the most cheers I heard him get in WWE at that time and they kinda blew it not having him go over Triple H.
The thing with Nash was he worked with Y2J after losing the HIAC to HHH, then he had to leave in august to film The Punisher which is why he lost his hair match with Y2J also, other than that Nash spent 10 months between Backlash 03-Backlash04 injured with either his bicep or his quad, then during his time off in late 04 he also got a neck surgery and WWE didn't renew his deal.
As for Hall he burnt out, he told WWE he couldn't do a full schedule so WWE signed him for a 10-14 day a month deal, not sure which it was, but he ended up doing like 24 shows a month or something silly like that and his demons just got to him, at which point WWE just said nah not going to risk this and let him go.
I agree the nWo run could have gone longer but only in theory, how far was it going to go when Hall is gone and Nash is injured for 10 months out of the year? as it was they got another feel good run out of Hogan by turning him babyface which was probably better for their bank accounts in the long run.
I did hear about abyss but from what I hear he isn't coming in as talent but as a producer, which makes sense, also couldn't see a Kane Vs Abyss fued taking place anyway, Kane's stepping away from performing from what I gather since he won his election for Mayor or Knox County, besides I doubt WWE wants to put Abyss on TV back in the day he was great but that was almost a decade ago, dudes 45 now, doubt he could handle a WWE schedule especially after the crazy shit he put himself through, I am happy he has a job with them though, shows how respected he is, I never heard he turned down a WM match out of loyalty to TNA, don't know how much I buy that, could be legit or just overblown speculation, but some crazy stuff has been spoke of in the past, did you hear that Foley pitched bringing Punk & Joe into the WWF back in 04 where he was basically going to say when he fought orton he thought he was fighting the cream of the new crop, but he was wrong Punk & Joe or the best in the world today, not pretty boys like Orton, but Vince didn't bite apparently.
The WCW Invasion was an issue but it was also a thing where WWE had their hands tied, they tried getting another hour or 2 on TV for a WCW show but no one wanted it, and neither TNN or UPN were willing to replace the hot WWF product with a WCW one, so WWF couldn't do what they intended which was to give WCW it's own show and run it separatel, when that happened all they had was the invasion and with that the longer they leave those guys doing nothing the more money they are spending on nothing and the more those guys matter, if it were me I would have gone to NJPW or AJPW maybe even AAA or CMLL and offer them some of the WCW guys under loans similar to what football teams do, and you make it clear you don't beat them unless WWF give the ok as to protect their people, this way keeps them active and in high spots whilst WWE don't have to pay them any money as they look to buy time.
But whats done is done.
For years after Vince McMahon bought WCW fans talked about how all these WCW stars were going to come to WWE and change everything and it was kinda a big fizzle and the likes of Sting, Lex Luger, Sid Vicious, Jeff Jarrett and Konan never did. There was Mr Perfect who returned to WWE in 2002 for a short time and feuded with Steve Austin but that was short too and I often wonder if Sting had not gone to TNA and went to WWE instead if he would have been the exception and had a lot of success in WWE and won the WWE Championship multiple times ‘cause I think he might have been the one WCW wrestler who could have done that and we would have gotten Sting vs the Undertaker, Sting vs Triple H, Sting vs Shawn Michaels, Sting vs Kane, Sting vs Steve Austin, Sting vs the Rock, Sting vs John Cena, Sting vs Brock Lesnar, Sting vs Randy Orton, Sting vs Batista, Sting vs Edge etc etc.
I will never understand why Sid Vicious didn’t return to WWE though ‘cause he was another wrestler who could have helped elevate upcoming stars in the 00s and I heard stories that he was difficult to work with but I am not sure if they were true or just part of his character. I heard Konan was in TNA (or Impact Wrestling as they are only calling it now) not long ago and I was surprised they didn’t try to have the Filthy Animals faction in WWE with Rey, Konan and Billy Kidman or the Misfits in Action and my Uncle was a fan of Misfits In Action and he liked Major Gunns and was always talking about what a great wrestler she was.  Did you hear Torrie Wilson is going in the 'WWE Hall of Fame?' Chyna finally is too but only as part of DX and I was never really a fan of Torrie and she was attractive but as far as wrestling skills I think Lisa (Victoria/ Tara) and Ivory should go in more. I am disappointed they never got Victoria/Tara back for one last run after she left TNA 'cause it would have been great to see her come back to WWE but with Beth returning to wrestling now and Mickie there and Lisa saying this will be her last year as a wrestler before she retires maybe WWE might bring her back for a match or two. Lisa Marie Varon vs the likes of Rhonda Rousey, Nia Jax, Becky Lynch, Charlotte and Asuka would be fun to see.
It looks like you are right about Abyss but I heard they just signed the BroMans (Robbie E and DJ Z) and both of them will be wrestling and hopefully they bring back James Storm 'cause I really think he could succeed in WWE with a proper push and the Cowboy gimmick. I think Magnus, Bram and the Motor City Machine Guns could be good additions too but I think the latter might have retired. 
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 22, 2019 13:20:30 GMT
Holy heck you know a lot about wrestling. Then again, I know nothing about wrestling and all of that just flew over my head.
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Post by dazz on Mar 22, 2019 21:48:59 GMT
The thing with Nash was he worked with Y2J after losing the HIAC to HHH, then he had to leave in august to film The Punisher which is why he lost his hair match with Y2J also, other than that Nash spent 10 months between Backlash 03-Backlash04 injured with either his bicep or his quad, then during his time off in late 04 he also got a neck surgery and WWE didn't renew his deal.
As for Hall he burnt out, he told WWE he couldn't do a full schedule so WWE signed him for a 10-14 day a month deal, not sure which it was, but he ended up doing like 24 shows a month or something silly like that and his demons just got to him, at which point WWE just said nah not going to risk this and let him go.
I agree the nWo run could have gone longer but only in theory, how far was it going to go when Hall is gone and Nash is injured for 10 months out of the year? as it was they got another feel good run out of Hogan by turning him babyface which was probably better for their bank accounts in the long run.
I did hear about abyss but from what I hear he isn't coming in as talent but as a producer, which makes sense, also couldn't see a Kane Vs Abyss fued taking place anyway, Kane's stepping away from performing from what I gather since he won his election for Mayor or Knox County, besides I doubt WWE wants to put Abyss on TV back in the day he was great but that was almost a decade ago, dudes 45 now, doubt he could handle a WWE schedule especially after the crazy shit he put himself through, I am happy he has a job with them though, shows how respected he is, I never heard he turned down a WM match out of loyalty to TNA, don't know how much I buy that, could be legit or just overblown speculation, but some crazy stuff has been spoke of in the past, did you hear that Foley pitched bringing Punk & Joe into the WWF back in 04 where he was basically going to say when he fought orton he thought he was fighting the cream of the new crop, but he was wrong Punk & Joe or the best in the world today, not pretty boys like Orton, but Vince didn't bite apparently.
The WCW Invasion was an issue but it was also a thing where WWE had their hands tied, they tried getting another hour or 2 on TV for a WCW show but no one wanted it, and neither TNN or UPN were willing to replace the hot WWF product with a WCW one, so WWF couldn't do what they intended which was to give WCW it's own show and run it separatel, when that happened all they had was the invasion and with that the longer they leave those guys doing nothing the more money they are spending on nothing and the more those guys matter, if it were me I would have gone to NJPW or AJPW maybe even AAA or CMLL and offer them some of the WCW guys under loans similar to what football teams do, and you make it clear you don't beat them unless WWF give the ok as to protect their people, this way keeps them active and in high spots whilst WWE don't have to pay them any money as they look to buy time.
But whats done is done.
For years after Vince McMahon bought WCW fans talked about how all these WCW stars were going to come to WWE and change everything and it was kinda a big fizzle and the likes of Sting, Lex Luger, Sid Vicious, Jeff Jarrett and Konan never did. There was Mr Perfect who returned to WWE in 2002 for a short time and feuded with Steve Austin but that was short too and I often wonder if Sting had not gone to TNA and went to WWE instead if he would have been the exception and had a lot of success in WWE and won the WWE Championship multiple times ‘cause I think he might have been the one WCW wrestler who could have done that and we would have gotten Sting vs the Undertaker, Sting vs Triple H, Sting vs Shawn Michaels, Sting vs Kane, Sting vs Steve Austin, Sting vs the Rock, Sting vs John Cena, Sting vs Brock Lesnar, Sting vs Randy Orton, Sting vs Batista, Sting vs Edge etc etc.
I will never understand why Sid Vicious didn’t return to WWE though ‘cause he was another wrestler who could have helped elevate upcoming stars in the 00s and I heard stories that he was difficult to work with but I am not sure if they were true or just part of his character. I heard Konan was in TNA (or Impact Wrestling as they are only calling it now) not long ago and I was surprised they didn’t try to have the Filthy Animals faction in WWE with Rey, Konan and Billy Kidman or the Misfits in Action and my Uncle was a fan of Misfits In Action and he liked Major Gunns and was always talking about what a great wrestler she was. Did you hear Torrie Wilson is going in the 'WWE Hall of Fame?' Chyna finally is too but only as part of DX and I was never really a fan of Torrie and she was attractive but as far as wrestling skills I think Lisa (Victoria/ Tara) and Ivory should go in more. I am disappointed they never got Victoria/Tara back for one last run after she left TNA 'cause it would have been great to see her come back to WWE but with Beth returning to wrestling now and Mickie there and Lisa saying this will be her last year as a wrestler before she retires maybe WWE might bring her back for a match or two. Lisa Marie Varon vs the likes of Rhonda Rousey, Nia Jax, Becky Lynch, Charlotte and Asuka would be fun to see.
It looks like you are right about Abyss but I heard they just signed the BroMans (Robbie E and DJ Z) and both of them will be wrestling and hopefully they bring back James Storm 'cause I really think he could succeed in WWE with a proper push and the Cowboy gimmick. I think Magnus, Bram and the Motor City Machine Guns could be good additions too but I think the latter might have retired.
I think Sid never came back because of how he left the last time, he was out for a while and got out of shape and when Vince told him be at Raw next week for a promo Sid came, he came out for a group thing but still had his promo to do, Sid then told Harvey Whippleman he was having a heart attack and made Harvey take him back to his hotel so he never did his promo, Vince then told him he would only get paid for events he worked, as back then even though WWF didn't have guarantee deals they had a talent pool, where x% of the gate of every show went into it and was paid to guys who weren't booked to work that night, so even if guys were out they would get prelim match money so they didn't starve, and Sid never came back he went to ECW for a bit then signed with WCW.
Also he broke his leg in 2001 really badly doing a 2nd turnbuckle dive, it took him 3 1/2 years to come back from that and by that point he had been off TV for that long he was 44 years old, unreliable, prone to being a pain to work with and never really a proven draw, he got pushed as a top guy a lot due to his size but it's not like he ever drew big money anywhere.
As for DDP yeah they dropped him down a lot but the reason he left is he suffered a near career ending injury, which he officially retired from wrestling after getting hurt, and which took him 2 whole years to recover from for him to do his TNA run, Jeff was never going to come back as a worker after how he left, he supposedly held Vince up for $300k to drop the IC title to Chyna before he went to WCW, Konan I don't think was ever going to get the money he wanted for a WWF run, WCW were paying him like $750k a year, and in Mexico he's a big deal and a shot caller, also he had a run in WWF where he kept no showing apparently to work dates in Mexico and had a bad attitude, hence no run for him in the 00's.
I disagree with Sting I don't think he would have had a good run in WWF because WWF wouldn't treat him like TNA did, Sting's run in TNA worked for the most part because he was protected and considered special, in the WWF he wouldn't have been because well Sting wasn't special, also he wouldn't have kept up the WWF/E grind either, Sting was never a guy who loved wrestling, he liked it but it wasn't his passion, it just happened to be the career he could make the most money out of, Sting in WWF would have lasted a year to 2 tops, also because Sting would grow stale in WWE and rub people the wrong way because all he knows is how to do Sting, he cant be a heel, he has to be a babyface, there was no Ledger's Joker back then for him to take inspiration from to reinvent his character like he did in the later years of his TNA run either, so it would just be same old same old with him, and him not wanting to be there 250+ days a year.
I 100% agree on James Storm he needs a WWE run, he can be so fucking good, I always been a fan of his even back in his AMW days with Chris Harris, everyone thought Harris was the HBK of that group but I always believed the Cowboy was better than the Wildcat, and he proved it with not only having a great run with Roode as Beer Money but also getting over as a singles star once they broke up, if only TNA weren't run by incompetent shitheads maybe Storm could have been a break out star for the company.
As for the MCMG's yeah Shelly got hurt and retired last year I always felt Shelly had some great Jericho vibes in how he had fun mannerism's to even simple moves and holds, made it all feel more real than a lot of guys who just went through the motions, but he also didn't have Jericho's inflated ego which maybe why he didn't go as far as Y2J did.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 11:54:55 GMT
I forgot Kevin Nash was in ‘The Punisher’ ‘cause I haven’t seen that movie in a long time and I always wondered why he let WWE cut his hair off ‘cause unlike Kurt Angle who lost his hair in a ‘Hair’ match it didn’t look like he was going bald but now that makes sense. When you look back at things a lot of the WCW stars they got in WWE didn’t have long runs in WWE and Booker T, Ric Flair, Rey Mysterio, Torrie Wilson and Hurricane Helms were the only ones that did unless you count Hulk Hogan but he didn’t stay that long either and went over to TNA and was the General Manager of Impact Wrestling and had one last match with Sting which I think will be his final match ‘cause I can’t see him wrestling again now but Scott Steiner pretty much came and went, Goldberg came and went, Kevin Nash came and went, Scott Hall came and went and Diamond Dallas Paige came and went but they put him RIGHT down to the bottom of the card before he did.
For years after Vince McMahon bought WCW fans talked about how all these WCW stars were going to come to WWE and change everything and it was kinda a big fizzle and the likes of Sting, Lex Luger, Sid Vicious, Jeff Jarrett and Konan never did. There was Mr Perfect who returned to WWE in 2002 for a short time and feuded with Steve Austin but that was short too and I often wonder if Sting had not gone to TNA and went to WWE instead if he would have been the exception and had a lot of success in WWE and won the WWE Championship multiple times ‘cause I think he might have been the one WCW wrestler who could have done that and we would have gotten Sting vs the Undertaker, Sting vs Triple H, Sting vs Shawn Michaels, Sting vs Kane, Sting vs Steve Austin, Sting vs the Rock, Sting vs John Cena, Sting vs Brock Lesnar, Sting vs Randy Orton, Sting vs Batista, Sting vs Edge etc etc.
I will never understand why Sid Vicious didn’t return to WWE though ‘cause he was another wrestler who could have helped elevate upcoming stars in the 00s and I heard stories that he was difficult to work with but I am not sure if they were true or just part of his character. I heard Konan was in TNA (or Impact Wrestling as they are only calling it now) not long ago and I was surprised they didn’t try to have the Filthy Animals faction in WWE with Rey, Konan and Billy Kidman or the Misfits in Action and my Uncle was a fan of Misfits In Action and he liked Major Gunns and was always talking about what a great wrestler she was. Did you hear Torrie Wilson is going in the 'WWE Hall of Fame?' Chyna finally is too but only as part of DX and I was never really a fan of Torrie and she was attractive but as far as wrestling skills I think Lisa (Victoria/ Tara) and Ivory should go in more. I am disappointed they never got Victoria/Tara back for one last run after she left TNA 'cause it would have been great to see her come back to WWE but with Beth returning to wrestling now and Mickie there and Lisa saying this will be her last year as a wrestler before she retires maybe WWE might bring her back for a match or two. Lisa Marie Varon vs the likes of Rhonda Rousey, Nia Jax, Becky Lynch, Charlotte and Asuka would be fun to see.
It looks like you are right about Abyss but I heard they just signed the BroMans (Robbie E and DJ Z) and both of them will be wrestling and hopefully they bring back James Storm 'cause I really think he could succeed in WWE with a proper push and the Cowboy gimmick. I think Magnus, Bram and the Motor City Machine Guns could be good additions too but I think the latter might have retired.
I think Sid never came back because of how he left the last time, he was out for a while and got out of shape and when Vince told him be at Raw next week for a promo Sid came, he came out for a group thing but still had his promo to do, Sid then told Harvey Whippleman he was having a heart attack and made Harvey take him back to his hotel so he never did his promo, Vince then told him he would only get paid for events he worked, as back then even though WWF didn't have guarantee deals they had a talent pool, where x% of the gate of every show went into it and was paid to guys who weren't booked to work that night, so even if guys were out they would get prelim match money so they didn't starve, and Sid never came back he went to ECW for a bit then signed with WCW.
Also he broke his leg in 2001 really badly doing a 2nd turnbuckle dive, it took him 3 1/2 years to come back from that and by that point he had been off TV for that long he was 44 years old, unreliable, prone to being a pain to work with and never really a proven draw, he got pushed as a top guy a lot due to his size but it's not like he ever drew big money anywhere.
As for DDP yeah they dropped him down a lot but the reason he left is he suffered a near career ending injury, which he officially retired from wrestling after getting hurt, and which took him 2 whole years to recover from for him to do his TNA run, Jeff was never going to come back as a worker after how he left, he supposedly held Vince up for $300k to drop the IC title to Chyna before he went to WCW, Konan I don't think was ever going to get the money he wanted for a WWF run, WCW were paying him like $750k a year, and in Mexico he's a big deal and a shot caller, also he had a run in WWF where he kept no showing apparently to work dates in Mexico and had a bad attitude, hence no run for him in the 00's.
I disagree with Sting I don't think he would have had a good run in WWF because WWF wouldn't treat him like TNA did, Sting's run in TNA worked for the most part because he was protected and considered special, in the WWF he wouldn't have been because well Sting wasn't special, also he wouldn't have kept up the WWF/E grind either, Sting was never a guy who loved wrestling, he liked it but it wasn't his passion, it just happened to be the career he could make the most money out of, Sting in WWF would have lasted a year to 2 tops, also because Sting would grow stale in WWE and rub people the wrong way because all he knows is how to do Sting, he cant be a heel, he has to be a babyface, there was no Ledger's Joker back then for him to take inspiration from to reinvent his character like he did in the later years of his TNA run either, so it would just be same old same old with him, and him not wanting to be there 250+ days a year.
I 100% agree on James Storm he needs a WWE run, he can be so fucking good, I always been a fan of his even back in his AMW days with Chris Harris, everyone thought Harris was the HBK of that group but I always believed the Cowboy was better than the Wildcat, and he proved it with not only having a great run with Roode as Beer Money but also getting over as a singles star once they broke up, if only TNA weren't run by incompetent shitheads maybe Storm could have been a break out star for the company.
As for the MCMG's yeah Shelly got hurt and retired last year I always felt Shelly had some great Jericho vibes in how he had fun mannerism's to even simple moves and holds, made it all feel more real than a lot of guys who just went through the motions, but he also didn't have Jericho's inflated ego which maybe why he didn't go as far as Y2J did.
Do you get all the WWE wrestling shows in the UK Dazz and TNA Impact Wrestling or do you need to have the WWE Network to have the other WWE shows? When we first got NXT it replaced their new version of ECW that had Taryn Terrell as the General Manager in its final days and it started out as a competition show before being rebooted as a wrestling show for new wrestlers and I think we lost it ‘cause people in America were having to pay for the WWE Network to see it while we were getting it free here but I don’t know why we lost the other two shows. It is funny that you mentioned how Sid Vicious was told he would only get paid for the shows he worked by Vince ‘cause now WWE has a lot of wrestlers under contract who haven’t been on TV for months but still get paid and I am surprised some of them have stayed under contract for so long like Bray Wyatt, Luke Haper, Primo, Epico, Sin Cara and Neville.
From what I have heard Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper have been cleared to return for ages and there are these new promos that look like they are for Bray Wyatt returning but Luke Harper is apparently asking for his release from WWE and I don’t know why he wasn’t brought back. Primo and Epico are even more of a mystery ‘cause they have come out to break wrestlers up from fighting but they have not wrestled a match on Raw or Smackdown for ages. WWE were using them more when they were the Los Matadores and I think they made a mistake not revealing them to be the Los Matadores and bringing them back as The Shining Stars. I didn’t know about DDPs near career ending injury but that makes sense why he retired and it’s just a shame his career didn’t take off in WWE like it did in WCW and we didn’t get to see him in matches with other stars like Steve Austin and the Rock.
I wasn’t aware of Konan’s bad attitude either but I can see how that would make him difficult for the company to work with and there are some wrestlers who get massive egos and think they are bigger than what they really are and it cost them their career. I heard Disco Inferno was like that and that is why his career went down the toilet after WCW and I don’t mean to speak ill of the dead but I heard Kanyon was difficult to work with and that was why his WWE career never took off. What happened to Tank Abbott? He was in WCW and UFC but never went to WWE and why did they never bring Ken Shamrock back to face Brock Lesnar in WWE? I don’t know if Ken was difficult to work with too but I remember a few years back he wanted to return to WWE and face Brock Lesnar. Some people say he was the best UFC fighter of all time and UFC wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for his success.
I don’t know about that but I think the first time I heard of UFC was when he was in WWF and I recall a lot of his matches in WWF and there was one big match he had with the Rock were he slaughtered the Rock like he was nothing and I had never seen the Rock go so bad in a match. I think Ken vs Brock could have been interesting since they were both wrestlers and UFC fighters. I still disagree with you about Sting respectfully but I am a Sting fan and liked him in WCW and TNA and you are right about him not being able to be heel but then I think there are some wrestlers who are meant to play faces and others that are meant to play heels and look wrong when they play the opposite roles. Motor City Machine Guns were very talented and could have been good in WWE and the Wolves could have too and let's hope James Storm returns and they give him a chance on the main roster this time. The biggest mistake with James Storm in my opinion was having him not defeat Bobby Roode in their feud and they spread that out for months and months only to have him lose every time. 
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Post by BexxyJ on May 1, 2019 15:15:19 GMT
Bray Wyatt is back with a creepy children’s show host gimmick. This is some weird and whacky shit.  |
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