Post by DebLovesBeccy on Feb 23, 2019 11:17:30 GMT
The entire WCW/ECW Invasion was a big disappointment as you know and a lot of us wrestling fans had been waiting years to see our favourite WWF and WCW wrestlers in the ring together but when we got it there was no Goldberg, Sting, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Hulk Hogan, Rey Mysterio, Konan, Sid Vicious, Ric Flair, Scott Hall, Ultimo Dragon, Juvented Guerro or Tank Abbott and they completely wasted Diamond Dallas Paige with a creepy stalker storyline where he was stalking the Undertaker’s Wife and then made him into a comedic character when they could have made him a main eventer and turned him face and had him beat Steve Austin for the WWF Championship. I also remember Insane Clown Posse being in WWE and I heard they had their own wrestling promotion but I don't know if it is still around now.
Well WWF did intend to push Buff at first, but then Buff's attitude immediately pissed people off, his first match Pat Patterson iirc tried telling him ok this is a WWF city, WCW never got over here so don't worry if the fans give you shit at first, have a great match and win them over that's all we want, Buff responded by telling Pat fucking Patterson "Pat you don't understand, I am a huge star, these fans love me" only to go out get shitty response and put on a shitty match with Booker T, the reaction of which killed the Invasion plans pretty much, then he got his mother o call in sick for him with JR, and he called up WWE head office or something well I think he got his mother to do it again, but called up WWF HQ complaining he deserved first class treatment and limo's to the arena just like DDP & Big Show were getting, not figuring Page & Show were paying for the limo treatment out of pocket, then Buff tried big dogging Shane Helms at a workout session and Helms ended up cracking the back of Buff's head open, so WWF just decided fuck this guy all he does is cause problems and whine.
But the Invasion did suffer but a lot of that's not on WWF guys like Hogan, Nash, Goldberg were on such big money deals even when WWF offered them contracts they turned them down to collect the free money, Nash himself said WWF offered 50% of Nash's outstanding contract as a annual downside, the other 50% as a signing bonus, and Nash would have let WCW buy out his contract at 50% so he could have made say $3 million by going to the WWF downside but he decided $2 million for no work was a better deal for him, which is obvious a lot of the guys felt as you think Flair, Nash, Hogan, Steiner, Goldberg all joined WWF right after their contracts ran out.
Page though was another guy destined to fail because he was too set in his ways, for one he couldn't flat back bump which is WWE style for heels, X-Pac tells a story about realising how fucked Page was one night whilst he was feeding a Taker comeback, instead of doing the quick flatbacks and popping up comeback style like you are meant to, Page did these weird belly flop bumps, and Taker kept dropping him for his comeback then stopped stared Page down and gave him one last hit and page again did the belly bump and Taker looked pissed, plus Page's habvit of wanting to script out everymatch, literally script it out on paper probably didn't go down well with the WWF's then mentality, I agree the stalker thing didn't do him any favours but then again even his push in WCW didn't, he was another top guy during WCW's dying period, his big pushed when they were hot only came about when he was teaming with a celebrity, so how big a star Page was in actuality probably in question in the WWF.
OMG. Have you heard the big news Dazz? WWE have signed Chris Parks? Abyss is FINALLY coming to the WWE and we might get Abyss vs Kane, Abyss vs Brock Lesnar, Abyss vs Braun Strowman and Abyss vs the Undertaker and I have always wanted to see Abyss in WWE and I heard he turned down a Wresltemania match a few years back with the Undertaker due to his loyalty to TNA at the time but Impact doesn’t look to be in the best of shape these days with WWE taking many of their big name stars so I don’t blame him for leaving going to the WWE while he still can. Are you a fan of Abyss Dazz? I am interested if Chris will just be playing Abyss or he will be playing Abyss and Joseph Parks ‘cause he has been playing Joseph Parks on and off for a while now too and a lot of his fans have liked both.
It would be funny if they had him debut in WWE as Joseph Parks and they put him in a match with a wrestler like Brock Lesnar and he thinks he is going to be easy to defeat and laughs at him and then he goes underneath the ring and comes back out as Abyss and destroys them and this could be the beginning of an exciting time in the WWE and the era of 'The Monster Abyss' if the writers handle him right which the writers of TNA sadly didn't do sometimes and I thought it was a mistake not having Abyss defeat Bully Ray for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship when Bully Ray had the Aces and Eights with him. I didn't know those things about Buff Bagwell so thanks for letting me know and wow, he sounds like he must have been very difficult to work with and I can see why they decided not to keep him but I still think Diamond Dallas Page could have gone over if they had him turn face and go against Steve Austin when they had the Alliance but the stalker storyline made that hard to do back then and didn't make sense with DDP's character.
The Invasion did suffer majorly 'cause of the lack of superstars they got and some people think it would have been better if they had held it off and waited until they had more of the top WCW stars like they got later and instead of having WCW as the heels let the fans decide what team they wanted to go for but I think it was obvious an opposing team was always going to be the heels which is perhaps better they didn't have the likes of Goldberg and Rey Mysterio at the time 'cause neither were really good as heels and Goldberg hated playing a heel and his heel turn in WCW lasted a few days and he went back to being face 'cause he had just spent the day with a sick little boy in hospital who was looking forward to seeing his hero on screen and Goldberg wanted to go out and perform for kids like that and didn't want to play the bad guy. I think the NWO Invasion of WWE was handled better to begin with but they turned Hulk Hogan back face too quickly which took away from it and they had Undertaker playing a heel at the time.
The Undertaker should have been part of that feud in my opinion and they could have had Steve Austin, The Rock and the Undertaker vs NWO in a Six Men Tag Team match and the Undertaker vs Kevin Nash while Steve Austin and the Rock were facing Scott Hall and Hulk Hogan. They could have also had the Undertaker and Kane vs the Outsiders. Scott Hall being absent and having to replace him with other superstars didn't help either and I don't get what happened there or when Kevin Nash came back when Triple H was the WWE Champion and they made him a face and he disappeared for months again. That was the most cheers I heard him get in WWE at that time and they kinda blew it not having him go over Triple H.