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Post by kolchak92 on Mar 12, 2022 23:33:01 GMT
The Dark Knight is good but not better than Rises. Rachel Dawes kills the movie for me. The recasting is really bad. And her character always feels too self important and smarmy. She feels like Bruces older bossier sister, not his love interest. And story wise theres zero chance she would choose Harvey Dent over Bruce, given the ending of Batman Begins. She was definitely the weakest thing about The Dark Knight I agree, but I don't think she's bad enough to hurt the movie.
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Post by Jason143 on Mar 12, 2022 23:36:34 GMT
The Dark Knight is good but not better than Rises. Rachel Dawes kills the movie for me. The recasting is really bad. And her character always feels too self important and smarmy. She feels like Bruces older bossier sister, not his love interest. And story wise theres zero chance she would choose Harvey Dent over Bruce, given the ending of Batman Begins. She was definitely the weakest thing about The Dark Knight I agree, but I don't think she's bad enough to hurt the movie. The movie has a lot of great supporting characters to cover for her weakness yeah. But its just very distracting to me. Even though Katie Holmes is an inferior actor, she had more chemistry and believability in being Bruces love interest. The Joker killing her would have been way more impactful. When he killed the subsitute Rachel, I didnt really have a reaction.
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Post by Lux on Mar 12, 2022 23:38:40 GMT
The Dark Knight RISES is the best Batman movie ever. From being at rock bottom, he single handedly stops a highly organised terrorist group lead by a formidable villain from nuking a whole city and killing millions. Dont get more heroic or comic booky than that when it comes to standalone Batman movies. There is only 1 blatant plot point thats poorly executed, and thats the scene where Blake tells Bruce he knows hes Batman, just from looking at his face. The rest of the so called plot holes are nitpicks that can easily be explained. Begins is poorly shot. The last act in the narrows is way too dark visually, the camera is cutting so fast you cant make sense of whats happening. The Dark Knight is good but not better than Rises. Rachel Dawes kills the movie for me. The recasting is really bad. And her character always feels too self important and smarmy. She feels like Bruces older bossier sister, not his love interest. And story wise theres zero chance she would choose Harvey Dent over Bruce, given the ending of Batman Begins. Why wouldn't Rachel leave the Gotham lawman with a target on his head for the playboy billionaire? You're going to have to explain that. Sure Harvey was goodlooking but he was going to be killed by Gotham's criminal underworld sooner or later.
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Post by Jason143 on Mar 13, 2022 0:52:46 GMT
Why wouldn't Rachel leave the Gotham lawman with a target on his head for the playboy billionaire? You're going to have to explain that. Sure Harvey was goodlooking but he was going to be killed by Gotham's criminal underworld sooner or later. I said what your saying. She wouldn't choose Harvey Dent over Bruce Wayne. The whole subplot of Alfred burning the letter because he didnt want Bruce knowing is meh.
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