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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 6:30:34 GMT
I know they have already done a The Odd Couple remake which surprised me as I don't feel that 2 men living together (divorced or otherwise) is a big deal anymore. Even having one of them domestic is nothing surprising as lots of men know how to cook and use a washing machine etc.
Another show is Three's Company, a man living platonically with 2 women doesn't seem like the big deal it was back when the show started. I think if they did remake it the 'Shippers would set the net on fire and want him to get with one of them. Or want the 2 women to get together.
Can you think of any other TV Shows that wouldn't work anymore if they remade them?
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Post by deembastille on Oct 7, 2018 10:47:13 GMT
Malcolm in the Middle. I ended up loving the show and have binged watched it about ten times on Hulu but from the psychotic behavior all the boys did daily to the Blatant abuse Lois would do would not fly in this #the children are al(ways) right life we now live in.
Most shows (ethnic or not) that broadcasted the stereotype that in reality is hated by most people who are effected by it. Roseanne and her #GOWhiteTrash mentality. Good Times and their #DynomeyteGhetto nonsense.
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Post by amyghost on Oct 7, 2018 16:35:16 GMT
Too many to name. Ironically, many of these shows breathed fresh air onto a whole host of taboo subjects, social, racial and sexual. In today's hyper-sensitized climate, topics and themes that could be treated naturally and sensibly couldn't be touched with a ten-foot-pole now. (And someone will probably put up an outraged post claiming that I just insulted people of Polish descent with that remark  .) |
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Post by telegonus on Oct 7, 2018 17:13:41 GMT
Ramar Of The Jungle, Captain Gallant Of The Foreign Legion, The Life & Legend Of Wyatt Earp, Father Knows Best and such, by today's standards, "dated" fare as Peter Gunn, 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaiian Eye. Some shows, like Gunn and the similarly "ambianced" Mr. Lucky are of their time and of their place, and there's no bringing back that that compelling Noir world of gamblers, petty criminals, jazz musicians, beatnicks and con men. The waterfront dives (all million dollar condos now), with the foghorns in the background just wouldn't fit into a 21st century show. Even done as period pieces, meticulously detailed, they could be made to look handsome, but their emphasis on offbeat characters, the lack of much action, would likely not attract many viewers under fifty.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 21:52:08 GMT
Malcolm in the Middle. I ended up loving the show and have binged watched it about ten times on Hulu but from the psychotic behavior all the boys did daily to the Blatant abuse Lois would do would not fly in this #the children are al(ways) right life we now live in. Most shows (ethnic or not) that broadcasted the stereotype that in reality is hated by most people who are effected by it. Roseanne and her #GOWhiteTrash mentality. Good Times and their #DynomeyteGhetto nonsense. In terms of race another show that strikes me is Diff'rent Strokes. This Is Us kind of touches on the topic a little but in a very over the top PC way. Where the white couple adopt a black kid who has been abandoned by his black parents. They then get made to feel bad about it by black people and even have to fight for custody. It is kind of PC and Anti PC without actually meaning to be Anti at all. I think what is annoying is you have these wealthy privileged people like Roseanne playing the part of this lower class housewife as if she really knows anything about it at all. We had a show down here called Kath and Kim which did the same thing. The Bogans (Aussie term for Redneck) loved it but I don't think they ever worked out that they were being made fun of by their social betters. You can't make an honest or truly satirical show anymore, there are so many really funny and interesting ideas you could use too. Like how about an Arab Muslim who goes to America/The West in search of Satan only to find that no one cares? A black person who constantly tries to find racism but only ends up looking angry and racist themselves? It would be hilarious but you can't do any of it. |
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 8, 2018 0:26:47 GMT
Could Candid Camera be brought back today? I would like to know how often they got away with their pranks over the years without enraging their victims. I have a feeling that if they tried to do a version today, the victims of the pranks would be much more likely to file lawsuits against the show, claiming "psychic damage" and "loss of connubial partnership" with their spouses or whatever that's called, just because they were startled by the sight of a dog driving a car or whatever (and in Florida, they might go after poor Fannie Flagg with a gun and then claim "stand your ground"). By the way, that "ten-foot-Pole" crack? I'm deeply outraged!  |
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Post by deembastille on Oct 8, 2018 1:54:12 GMT
Could Candid Camera be brought back today? I would like to know how often they got away with their pranks over the years without enraging their victims. I have a feeling that if they tried to do a version today, the victims of the pranks would be much more likely to file lawsuits against the show, claiming "psychic damage" and "loss of connubial partnership" with their spouses or whatever that's called, just because they were startled by the sight of a dog driving a car or whatever (and in Florida, they might go after poor Fannie Flagg with a gun and then claim "stand your ground"). By the way, that "ten-foot-Pole" crack? I'm deeply outraged! There that idiot Impractical Jokers show. Can't stand them because often times the pranks are borderline arrestable. |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 8, 2018 18:44:18 GMT
Ramar Of The Jungle, Captain Gallant Of The Foreign Legion, The Life & Legend Of Wyatt Earp, Father Knows Best and such, by today's standards, "dated" fare as Peter Gunn, 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaiian Eye. Some shows, like Gunn and the similarly "ambianced" Mr. Lucky are of their time and of their place, and there's no bringing back that that compelling Noir world of gamblers, petty criminals, jazz musicians, beatnicks and con men. The waterfront dives (all million dollar condos now), with the foghorns in the background just wouldn't fit into a 21st century show. Even done as period pieces, meticulously detailed, they could be made to look handsome, but their emphasis on offbeat characters, the lack of much action, would likely not attract many viewers under fifty. Very true. One of the things that tends to annoy me with current Hollywood efforts to replicate that era is that they tend to look 'set-designed' to death. You just can't reproduce the look of those times in a naturalistic way; and the lack of emphasis on 'character' types as opposed to 'stars' is something I've bewailed the dearth of for years now.
You and I have discussed 'Secret Agent' (a/k/a 'Dangerman") elsewhere previously, and that show is a good example: in the era of Jason Bourne and the Mission Impossible film franchise, could John Drake's world of bleak and noir-esque espionage, with its pointed de-emphasizing of flashy pyrotechnical technologies, be made to work at all now, or draw audience interest at all? Probably not.
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Post by telegonus on Oct 8, 2018 19:56:51 GMT
Yes, Amy, and as to recreating the look of old films and earlier times I agree, naturalism wouldn't work, and not just in set design. Last night I watched an entertaining, stylish Peter Gunn, in which, for a short period, a "house of horrors" was featured, and I have no doubt that no such place ever existed that looked like that outside of a movie studio, which, of course, is one of the many reasons it worked so well (odd that earlier a Twilight Zone hour long set in a wax museum was broadcast on the same channel).
Actors and writers are very different sorts today as well, as you mentioned. There simply aren't the kinds of writers today that existed back fifty or more years ago. Also, as to naturalism, today's film school writing is over-naturalized (sic), which makes nearly all the characters in a TV show or movie much under the age of fifty talk like frat house boys, if male, or empowered young professional women. So many lines are delivered "shock jock" style, in yer face, as to make them unbelievable.
Nor is there a place these days for such gifted, stylized performers like Walter Burke, Ken Lynch, Harry Townes, James Griffth or Ted De Corsia, much less women,--forget the Marilyns and Kims--of the Ellen Corby kind, or Irene Tedrow, the wonderfully (self-) named Minerva Urecal, Bette Garde, Virginia Vincent or Jeanette Nolan. Or am I expecting too much? There's a sameness to the naturalistic, seemingly, to my eyes and ears anyway, peer pressured players of our time. It's like they have to act that way or else their fellow actors would point their fingers at them and shout out "phony! phony! phony!",
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 21:52:13 GMT
Could Candid Camera be brought back today? I would like to know how often they got away with their pranks over the years without enraging their victims. I have a feeling that if they tried to do a version today, the victims of the pranks would be much more likely to file lawsuits against the show, claiming "psychic damage" and "loss of connubial partnership" with their spouses or whatever that's called, just because they were startled by the sight of a dog driving a car or whatever (and in Florida, they might go after poor Fannie Flagg with a gun and then claim "stand your ground"). By the way, that "ten-foot-Pole" crack? I'm deeply outraged! They have done shows like Scare Tactics and there was the one that Ashton Kutcher did where he pranked celebrities, I still have fond memories of Justin Timberlake crying for his mother because of the prank. I question how real they are though, we know reality TV shows are directed and scripted in some ways, people shown out of context to build characters. The Japanese do some crazy stuff on shows like this which I tend to believe is real just because they are crazy. Except for porn, naughty bits must be pixalated! I could see someone suing, "Your show made me look like a fool. I was teased at work, I missed out on my promotion because no one takes me seriously. I never consented to being filmed for your show!" Ok I think they still have to get consent to air it but you get my point. A lot of people who have appeared on Reality TV shows later go on to bitch that it ruined their lives. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 8, 2018 23:13:18 GMT
Not defending that train wreck of a woman BUT :
"She dropped out of high school when she was seventeen, and, after a car accident, was admitted to a mental institution, claiming she was having nightmares and memory loss. She left the institute less than a year later. At seventeen, she gave birth to her first daughter, Brandi Brown, and gave her up for adoption. She began working at a restaurant as a dishwasher and waitress. Her hilarious comments to the customers she waited on led her to doing stand-up comedy at the restaurant. " (IMDb biog page)
That life of wealth and privilege came after the many years of being middle class / poor and she never made a secret of saying that some of the show was based on her real experiences with a humor twist added.
quote from Roseanne .." I used to want to be a movie star so I wouldn't have to live in trailers anymore. And now that I make movies, I spend a lot of my life living in trailers."
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 9, 2018 17:42:35 GMT
I know they have already done a The Odd Couple remake which surprised me as I don't feel that 2 men living together (divorced or otherwise) is a big deal anymore. Even having one of them domestic is nothing surprising as lots of men know how to cook and use a washing machine etc. Another show is Three's Company, a man living platonically with 2 women doesn't seem like the big deal it was back when the show started. I think if they did remake it the 'Shippers would set the net on fire and want him to get with one of them. Or want the 2 women to get together. Can you think of any other TV Shows that wouldn't work anymore if they remade them? I don't understand this part of your post. 2 men living together was not at all unusual when The Odd Couple was first made. It wasn't a big deal then anymore than it is now. That was not the point of the show. What made the show funny was 2 men with diametrically opposed personalities living together. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 21:17:52 GMT
I know they have already done a The Odd Couple remake which surprised me as I don't feel that 2 men living together (divorced or otherwise) is a big deal anymore. Even having one of them domestic is nothing surprising as lots of men know how to cook and use a washing machine etc. Another show is Three's Company, a man living platonically with 2 women doesn't seem like the big deal it was back when the show started. I think if they did remake it the 'Shippers would set the net on fire and want him to get with one of them. Or want the 2 women to get together. Can you think of any other TV Shows that wouldn't work anymore if they remade them? I don't understand this part of your post. 2 men living together was not at all unusual when The Odd Couple was first made. It wasn't a big deal then anymore than it is now. That was not the point of the show. What made the show funny was 2 men with diametrically opposed personalities living together. I was just a kid back then so to me it wasn't just that they had 2 very different personalities it was also that they were divorced. Just my personal perception. When they did the remake I wondered whether the theme was still topical/unusual enough to keep people's interest. |
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Post by drystyx on Nov 16, 2018 0:53:51 GMT
You're right. Probably none, without major revisions.
I imagine even if seven people got their cell phones too wet in a ship wreck, a professor would revitalize the phones some how, and no one escapes satellite viewing any more, unless they really want to escape it. But with revisions, it could be done on a "farce" scale, which would work.
The hillbillies striking it rich wouldn't work simply because no oil executive would deal with them fairly, unless the hillbilly family was already related to the mob. I do think they could find the greedy banker who had a soft heart for them, if it wasn't a "national" bank. I could see a "local banker" being fair, but not a big bank, nor an oil company.
The rustic ones in the sticks, like Green Acres, simply because in today's "information world" every farmer in the country has better access to internet and information than anyone in the city who has to deal with city inconveniences, or who only have an hour at the library. Today's "sticks" is the slum and the hood and the trailer park.
A lot of the old Westerns would be great, but the modern day yokel couldn't handle the reality of the characters. Starting around the seventies, writers began writing characters who had to prove themselves to be super Nostradamus types who would predict everything today. Either actors or writers were just too proud and arrogant to demean themselves.
I'll cite an example. On THE RIFLEMAN, there's an episode where the son Mark asks his father if he thinks there could ever be horseless carriages, and the father, the star of the show, ridicules the idea. Chuck Conners was willing to demean himself a bit for the sake of the show and for the sake of the character credibility. That couldn't happen in the seventies or eighties or even the nineties.
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Post by wanton87 on Nov 16, 2018 3:14:23 GMT
In today's hyper-sensitized climate, topics and themes that could be treated naturally and sensibly couldn't be touched with a ten-foot-pole now. (And someone will probably put up an outraged post claiming that I just insulted people of Polish descent with that remark .) Ah, for a moment there, I thought that you were referring to Alexander Graham Kowalski, who was best known as the first telephone pole  |
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Post by colaghost on Nov 16, 2018 18:32:55 GMT
I would say dark shadows but I forget the abomination created by johnny depp and tim burton
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Post by cwsims on Nov 16, 2018 18:34:57 GMT
I would say dark shadows but I forget the abomination created by johnny depp and tim burton your an idiot Johnny Depp's and Tim Burtons Dark Shadows was one of the best movies of 2012 |
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Post by telegonus on Nov 28, 2018 9:29:07 GMT
I think that most of the desert and jungle "colonial feeling" action adventure series from the Fifties would be impossible today, from Jungle Jim to the Bengal Lancers show the exact title of which eludes me in the moment.
Also, needless to day, Amos & Andy (no way, not with the dialects) and the Hattie McDaniel sitcom (Beulah?). Many old shows for reasons of Political Correctness, which, whether I believe in it or or not would make many old even "classic" show unacceptable today and into the foreseeable future.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 28, 2018 14:42:14 GMT
So many shows that are so beautifully ’60s in look and feel: The Avengers, Batman, The Wild Wild West, The Prisoner.
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Post by telegonus on Nov 28, 2018 15:44:16 GMT
Three Sixties faves,--Naked City, Route 66 and The Fugitive--all wrong for today. The "in search of America" (dream?) thing belongs to another time. A man on the run like Richard Kimble couldn't find work without a background check. Okay, maybe in Appalachia, but even there his anonymity wouldn't last long. The world has shrunk so much in fifty years. Liberal humanism of the kind featured in those three shows is old-fashioned now. Most of the troubled guest characters on those kinds of shows would be in treatment today, or on meds, not just loose cannons rolling around in their home towns, city neighborhoods.
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