maxwellperfect
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 9, 2018 14:30:47 GMT
George A. Romero's second 'Dead' movie which, even more so than 'Night of the Living Dead' set the stage for the popular "zombie holocaust" genre.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 9, 2018 17:45:01 GMT
9/10
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Post by Vits on Oct 9, 2018 18:37:06 GMT
1/10
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Post by James on Oct 10, 2018 2:37:39 GMT
8/10 Best of the trilogy (and quite possibly the greatest zombie film of all time).
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 10, 2018 2:43:10 GMT
You forgot the 0 after the 1.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 10, 2018 4:55:03 GMT
I gave it an '8', but I actually think of it as more an 8.5 film. It's very good.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 10, 2018 5:09:54 GMT
I gave it a 9/10 I give the original expanded cut, before it got shorn of about 15mins a 10. The theatrical cut is technically Romero's directors cut and for the most part with films, I prefer the tighter edits. In this case, I think the extra plot exposition and extended sequences enhance the theme of Romero's zombie epic. Not big on zombie films, but this one is terrific. 👍 It is an epic film. My favorite part is, near the end, when the four of them are just goofing off and playing around inside the mall. That long shot where all the zombies are shown on the indoor ice skating rink, walking very, very slowly is breathtaking.
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Post by sjg on Oct 10, 2018 7:44:05 GMT
6/10
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Post by Vits on Oct 10, 2018 21:56:08 GMT
May I please ask your reasoning for such a low rating vits? After making a horror movie (NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD), George wanted to make an action/horror movie. In that genre, the main characters aren't just victims; they fight back... but they still have to be inferior to the threat. During the majority of this movie, the main characters feel in control of each situation. In fact, there are many moments where the zombies get near them and they just push them away. Due to these issues (how ironic that the directing (which isn't the same as technical quality) and the writing in this sequel (made 10 years later and with a bigger budget) is worse), there's no suspense. The goofy make-up doesn't help. A couple of moments during the last part (including the use of that ear poison known as Herbert Chappell's THE GONK) suggest that this was also meant to be partly a comedy, but they feel out of place because the story's overall tone isn't consistent.
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 11, 2018 0:54:27 GMT
A good movie because: A nostalgic look at mall design in the 1970s. Good suspense. Good action sequences. Romero went for some black comedy instead of just trying to cash in on the success of his earlier film by making a carbon copy of it. Allegory about mall culture and consumerism. I love "The Gonk"!
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Post by Vits on Oct 11, 2018 16:47:39 GMT
That the make-up effects might seem a little quaint today, I think that also works in favor with the film as well, when taken in context of when it was made and the austere and sincere approach the entire production took to bring this classic zombie epic to the screen. The setting is great and something most of us will relate too, even today, and this was maximized to its fullest potential. There is nothing wrong with this production and was made on a low budget of around $700,000.00 and the finished product belies what was afforded to it.
this is by no means a 1 star—or in your case half star film—horror film
1) I did think of other horror movies from that time as well as its low budget... and I think it's bad in comparison. Especially compared to NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (yes, I know that "that time" usually means decade"). The make-up effects looked realistic to me in that one. 2) But I gave it a 1, not a 0.5.
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Post by Vits on Oct 12, 2018 17:56:05 GMT
the 5 star rating.
If you hated it fine, but as I was discussing about context and the finished product, it is far from a half star film, unless you are a casual viewer and don't even like or watch horror films, or don't have much of a point of reference regarding film at all. 1) Ah, you used the other rating system. How was I supposed to know that? 2) If I hated it, of course I'm going to give it a low grade. 3) Why do you think that? I said what was I comparing it to.
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Post by bigwhiskey on Oct 12, 2018 18:05:38 GMT
the 5 star rating.
If you hated it fine, but as I was discussing about context and the finished product, it is far from a half star film, unless you are a casual viewer and don't even like or watch horror films, or don't have much of a point of reference regarding film at all. 1) Ah, you used the other rating system. How was I supposed to know that? 2) If I hated it, of course I'm going to give it a low grade. 3) Why do you think that? I said what was I comparing it to. I suppose you find joy punching children in wheelchairs, reminds me of mother
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Post by poelzig on Oct 13, 2018 5:11:49 GMT
Ridiculous ratings like that are part of the reason I think you're pretentious. There are so many others though. I do have to say, I've been on numerous film and tv sets and I've NEVER seen anyone look so pleased to be holding a clapboard. It's bizarre you are so oblivious to so many good films.
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Post by Vits on Oct 13, 2018 21:32:07 GMT
Errrrr! Common sense. If you are rating something out of ten, simple logic should dictate when you divide into 2.
Even if you don't like it, and that is your personal prerogative, your hate for it appears unfounded or even unreasonable, especially if you are a film buff\connoisseur. Like I mentioned earlier, as far as groundbreaking horror films go from the 70's and in the context and quality of the finished product, I could understand an average rating some may give the film, like a 5\10, but to give it 1\2 a star doesn't make much sense to me in overall context of what the film depicts, represents and the manner in that it was rendered. I know you are not a casual viewer and like dissecting film.
1) I know how to do the conversion... but there was no reason for you to change it. Obviously the first thing that comes to mind is that you misread my post (it happens a lot in forums). 2) Unfounded? I gave a lot of reasons. Wait. Are you saying that just because it's a classic? I've been on numerous film and tv sets and I've NEVER seen anyone look so pleased to be holding a clapboard. I'm pasisonate about film, so what? Also, people are supposed to smile when posing for a photo. he gives Jaws The Revenge a 1\10, which by all accounts is likely deserved, but how can a classic horror film like Dawn Of The Dead, be in the same basket as JTR? He even gives Blade a 6. Those movies are very different than D.O.T.D. I judged them using different standards.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Oct 14, 2018 0:08:31 GMT
In 1978, I would have given it a 7.5
I'm not a big zombie movie fan, but my absolute favorite is 2004s Dawn of the Dead.
Don't think I could watch the original again.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Oct 14, 2018 1:13:38 GMT
In 1978, I would have given it a 7.5 I'm not a big zombie movie fan, but my absolute favorite is 2004s Dawn of the Dead. Don't think I could watch the original again. I have seen the remake twice. The second time was to see if I could get what I was missing, due to all the fandom hype. It didn't find anything different than the first time I viewed it, so I only bother with the original. I like zombies that can RUN
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Oct 14, 2018 1:42:21 GMT
To each their own
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Post by lostinlimbo on Oct 14, 2018 2:34:19 GMT
9/10
It’s been awhile though. Need to revisit. Probably watched it the least of original trilogy.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 30, 2018 14:18:51 GMT
The soundtrack to this movie is just all over the place, isn't it? Parts of it sound like typical, mellow 70's keyboard-heavy prog, some of it sounds like cutting edge (for its time) electronic music, then there's that ridiculous mall music and incongruous ragtime you hear at one point and then a rock song by the Pretty Things(!) during the scene when the rednecks are hunting zombies. Only a few parts of the score seem like it was written with the action and tone of the movie in mind. I much prefer the traditional horror score of 'Night of the Living Dead.' And, some spectacular gore scenes aside, I prefer 'Night of the Living Dead' overall as a movie.
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