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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 18, 2018 3:33:36 GMT
Halloween (2018)
So it's 2018 and after the first movie has already had two different timeline sequels, a spin off and remakes there isn't really any non-monetarily reason for another Halloween movie to be made but here we are with a third time-line for the series and a film that is a direct sequel to the 1978 original that ignores all the other films and once again stars Jamie Lee Curtis as Laurie Strode.
I was worried that the film might be comedic along the lines of H20 and Resurrection seeings this one is the brainchild of David Gordon Green (Your Highness) and Danny McBride (Eastbound and Down) but thankfully it is played very straight and serious. The first act is quite strong with its set up of tone and characters and I like it giving Jamie Lee Curtis her own kind of 'Unforgiven' vibe. This section has a serious cinematic quality rarely scene in any of the films since the original
However the second act kicks off with the inevitable turning loose of Michael Myers and the film goes for a long stretch of being bland and predictable. I found myself pretty bored by this uninspiring stretch and the onscreen violence was pretty lacklustre but even more offensive was the lack of any suspense or much in the way of palpable atmosphere. This is the directors first horror foray and it shows in the second act and is quite disappointing.
The Final act kicks off with a ridiculous twist which they do not pull off and then quickly disregard making it pointless. The very end of the film does improve and it has a fairly robust ending but you get the feeling the film could have been so much better with good moments peppered in with too many bland ones. The film does give a few nods to the now disregarded sequels but they are done tastefully enough and are mostly from the best Halloween films (Halloween 1978 and Halloween 4).
In the end it's a mixed bag of uneven story telling, some great character moments for Curtis but a lot of pointless characters when she is off screen. The tone was good and I think the intentions were good too with this respectable enough effort that is sure to bring another sequel as its box office predictions have it as the highest opening weekend of the franchise and will make its budget back in a single night.
5.5/10
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 3:50:20 GMT
Long story short, I agree with much of what you said, except for the part about the comedy. There was a sh*tload. What about that whole scene with the fat friend zone guy, or where the babysitter is being stabbed and the kid is busting one-liners? And those were the "serious" parts.
H20 was a lot more serious, and a better movie in my eyes.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 18, 2018 3:52:41 GMT
Long story short, I agree with much of what you said, except for the part about the comedy. There was a sh*tload. What about that whole scene with the fat friend zone guy, or where the babysitter is being stabbed and the kid is busting one-liners? And those were the "serious" parts. H20 was a lot more serious, and a better movie in my eyes. cannot disagree more, the only mildly comedic lines were evryday teenage banter but nothing overtly going for comedy, H20 had a lot of ridiculous stuff like all that LL cool j BS, i found this new one to be much starker than and with less teen comedy than any of the sequels. The remakes of course had no comedy either but they were garrishly trashy and awful
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 18, 2018 3:58:56 GMT
My new Michael Myers Halloween film rankings
Halloween (1978) 7.5/10 Halloween 4 (1988) 7-7.5 Halloween 2 (1981) 6.5/10 Halloween 666 The Producers Cut (1995) 6-6.5 Halloween 5 (1989) 6/10 Halloween 6 Theatrical cut (1995) 6/10 Halloween (2018) 5.5/10 Halloween H20 (1998) 4.5/10 Halloween Resurrection (2002) 4.5/10 Halloween 2 (2009) 3.5/10 Halloween (2007) 1/10
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 4:07:00 GMT
Long story short, I agree with much of what you said, except for the part about the comedy. There was a sh*tload. What about that whole scene with the fat friend zone guy, or where the babysitter is being stabbed and the kid is busting one-liners? And those were the "serious" parts. H20 was a lot more serious, and a better movie in my eyes. Well, I was planning on seeing this movie at the cinema tomorrow but you have almost scared me away. All of my fears about this movie have been confirmed in your review and more.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 4:08:00 GMT
Long story short, I agree with much of what you said, except for the part about the comedy. There was a sh*tload. What about that whole scene with the fat friend zone guy, or where the babysitter is being stabbed and the kid is busting one-liners? And those were the "serious" parts. H20 was a lot more serious, and a better movie in my eyes. cannot disagree more, the only mildly comedic lines were evryday teenage banter but nothing overtly going for comedy, H20 had a lot of ridiculous stuff like all that LL cool j BS, i found this new one to be much starker than and with less teen comedy than any of the sequels. The remakes of course had no comedy either but they were garrishly trashy and awful Everyday teenage banter? That kid was talking about being horny from getting fed guacamole sexily. LL had some goofy lines, but not during murder scenes.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 4:11:14 GMT
cannot disagree more, the only mildly comedic lines were evryday teenage banter but nothing overtly going for comedy, H20 had a lot of ridiculous stuff like all that LL cool j BS, i found this new one to be much starker than and with less teen comedy than any of the sequels. The remakes of course had no comedy either but they were garrishly trashy and awful Everyday teenage banter? That kid was talking about being horny from getting fed guacamole sexily. LL had some goofy lines, but not during murder scenes. Yeah, I have never thought of H20 as being funny, besides some stuff with LL Cool J and the humor is handled in a relatively natural way imo. His character just has a humorous laid back sensibility.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 18, 2018 4:11:42 GMT
cannot disagree more, the only mildly comedic lines were evryday teenage banter but nothing overtly going for comedy, H20 had a lot of ridiculous stuff like all that LL cool j BS, i found this new one to be much starker than and with less teen comedy than any of the sequels. The remakes of course had no comedy either but they were garrishly trashy and awful Everyday teenage banter? That kid was talking about being horny from getting fed guacamole sexily. LL had some goofy lines, but not during murder scenes. well see see the tone of these films very very different but can both agree that it wasnt what it could have been
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 18, 2018 4:19:12 GMT
cannot disagree more, the only mildly comedic lines were evryday teenage banter but nothing overtly going for comedy, H20 had a lot of ridiculous stuff like all that LL cool j BS, i found this new one to be much starker than and with less teen comedy than any of the sequels. The remakes of course had no comedy either but they were garrishly trashy and awful Everyday teenage banter? That kid was talking about being horny from getting fed guacamole sexily. LL had some goofy lines, but not during murder scenes. Thinki9ng about it more, it feels like you have not seen any halloween films in a while.. There are much more gratuitous use of stupid sex banter from drunken teenagers in pretty much every other entry and I will add that this particular bit of drunken nonsense was not during a kill scene but before one and before any threat was apparent
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 4:37:16 GMT
Everyday teenage banter? That kid was talking about being horny from getting fed guacamole sexily. LL had some goofy lines, but not during murder scenes. Thinki9ng about it more, it feels like you have not seen any halloween films in a while.. There are much more gratuitous use of stupid sex banter from drunken teenagers in pretty much every other entry and I will add that this particular bit of drunken nonsense was not during a kill scene but before one and before any threat was apparent Actually I just watched the first one again like five days ago. I've seen H20 probably 10 times. I don't remember anything as stupid as guacamole-inspired boners in either of them. And you can see Michael in the background while he's saying it. What about the other scene I mentioned? Babysitter is being stabbed and the child tells her boyfriend "Told ya you should have checked instead!" That's borderline Scary Movie. Anyway, I think you had it right in your previous post. We're splitting hairs here.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 4:41:23 GMT
Long story short, I agree with much of what you said, except for the part about the comedy. There was a sh*tload. What about that whole scene with the fat friend zone guy, or where the babysitter is being stabbed and the kid is busting one-liners? And those were the "serious" parts. H20 was a lot more serious, and a better movie in my eyes. Well, I was planning on seeing this movie at the cinema tomorrow but you have almost scared me away. All of my fears about this movie have been confirmed in your review and more. Granted, there were things I really liked, such as all the Laurie stuff. I was struggling to be balanced and not let my fanboy disappointment take over the review. If you walk in knowing what to expect, you might like it more.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 4:48:25 GMT
Well, I was planning on seeing this movie at the cinema tomorrow but you have almost scared me away. All of my fears about this movie have been confirmed in your review and more. Granted, there were things I really liked, such as all the Laurie stuff. I was struggling to be balanced and not let my fanboy disappointment take over the review. If you walk in knowing what to expect, you might like it more. I will probably still see it, but I would be very surprised if I like it based on your review. Tyler Mane is 6'8", so there is still a big difference in height compared to this new guy. His height is one of my many problems with the 2007 remake. And I'm not even a fanboy of the original, but it is as good as a slasher movie will ever be and you pointed out the reasons why in your review. Every sequel lacks the skill of the directing and subtlety of the writing.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 4:52:26 GMT
Thinki9ng about it more, it feels like you have not seen any halloween films in a while.. There are much more gratuitous use of stupid sex banter from drunken teenagers in pretty much every other entry and I will add that this particular bit of drunken nonsense was not during a kill scene but before one and before any threat was apparent Actually I just watched the first one again like five days ago. I've seen H20 probably 10 times. I don't remember anything as stupid as guacamole-inspired boners in either of them. And you can see Michael in the background while he's saying it. What about the other scene I mentioned? Babysitter is being stabbed and the child tells her boyfriend " Told ya you should have checked instead!" That's borderline Scary Movie. Anyway, I think you had it right in your previous post. We're splitting hairs here. That sounds awful. I just watched H20 last year for the third time and there is no line of dialogue as cringe-inducing sounding as the line you mentioned. At least in my opinion.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 5:20:41 GMT
Granted, there were things I really liked, such as all the Laurie stuff. I was struggling to be balanced and not let my fanboy disappointment take over the review. If you walk in knowing what to expect, you might like it more. I will probably still see it, but I would be very surprised if I like it based on your review. Tyler Mane is 6'8", so there is still a big difference in height compared to this new guy. His height is one of my many problems with the 2007 remake. And I'm not even a fanboy of the original, but it is as good as a slasher movie will ever be and you pointed out the reasons why in your review. Every sequel lacks the skill of the directing and subtlety of the writing. But there's also a big difference between 6'3 and 5'10. Everyone wonders why he won't talk, but no one ever asks why he grew half a foot in his 60s. Then throw in the mask and animal brutality (stomping a guy's head is something Michael actually does in RZH2) and he felt very Tyler Mane to me. Indeed. During that first act or so, I thought this movie might actually pull it off, but once he's literally going door to door killing everyone in sight, it becomes a run of the mill slasher.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 5:35:51 GMT
I will probably still see it, but I would be very surprised if I like it based on your review. Tyler Mane is 6'8", so there is still a big difference in height compared to this new guy. His height is one of my many problems with the 2007 remake. And I'm not even a fanboy of the original, but it is as good as a slasher movie will ever be and you pointed out the reasons why in your review. Every sequel lacks the skill of the directing and subtlety of the writing. But there's also a big difference between 6'3 and 5'10. Everyone wonders why he won't talk, but no one ever asks why he grew half a foot in his 60s. Then throw in the mask and animal brutality (stomping a guy's head is something Michael actually does in RZH2) and he felt very Tyler Mane to me. Indeed. During that first act or so, I thought this movie might actually pull it off, but once he's literally going door to door killing everyone in sight, it becomes a run of the mill slasher. I agree, but 6'8 is freakishly tall. I mean he looks like a giant in the movie, even when he isn't even standing next to anybody. I find it funny to think that he was bodybuilding in the mental institution, because Tyler Mane is a very strong guy and you can tell. The guy who plays him in Halloween H20 is 6'2 and I really didn't even notice his height during the movie, whereas in Rob Zombie's version it is VERY obvious that he is HUGE.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2018 5:46:29 GMT
But there's also a big difference between 6'3 and 5'10. Everyone wonders why he won't talk, but no one ever asks why he grew half a foot in his 60s. Then throw in the mask and animal brutality (stomping a guy's head is something Michael actually does in RZH2) and he felt very Tyler Mane to me. Indeed. During that first act or so, I thought this movie might actually pull it off, but once he's literally going door to door killing everyone in sight, it becomes a run of the mill slasher. I agree, but 6'8 is freakishly tall. I mean he looks like a giant in the movie, even when he isn't even standing next to anybody. I find it funny to think that he was bodybuilding in the mental institution, because Tyler Mane is a very strong guy and you can tell. The guy who plays him in Halloween H20 is 6'2 and I really didn't even notice his height during the movie, whereas in Rob Zombie's version it is VERY obvious that he is HUGE. I didn't notice Chris Durand's height, either. What can I say, Michael just looks tall in this movie. Bulky, too.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2018 5:49:26 GMT
I agree, but 6'8 is freakishly tall. I mean he looks like a giant in the movie, even when he isn't even standing next to anybody. I find it funny to think that he was bodybuilding in the mental institution, because Tyler Mane is a very strong guy and you can tell. The guy who plays him in Halloween H20 is 6'2 and I really didn't even notice his height during the movie, whereas in Rob Zombie's version it is VERY obvious that he is HUGE. I didn't notice Chris Durand's height, either. What can I say, Michael just looks tall in this movie. Bulky, too. That's annoying.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Oct 18, 2018 5:52:46 GMT
I am going to be seeing the movie at some point on Friday and I will just judge it for myself.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 20, 2018 21:39:45 GMT
I am going to be seeing the movie at some point on Friday and I will just judge it for myself. Did you see it?
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Post by anthonyrocks on Oct 20, 2018 21:56:58 GMT
I am going to be seeing the movie at some point on Friday and I will just judge it for myself. Did you see it? Yeah, I saw it yesterday morning. GREAT Movie!
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