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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 10, 2018 19:31:50 GMT
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Post by mmexis on Nov 11, 2018 5:20:09 GMT
A caveman has brute strength, fire and clubs. What do astronauts have?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 11, 2018 5:52:10 GMT
A caveman has brute strength, fire and clubs. What do astronauts have? The culmination of thousands of years of accumulated human knowledge and development that would allow them to strategize and make use of better tools, like a knife; while still wielding something as basic as a club or commanding fire. Although if you go by the rules set on the show, neither of them are armed. Astronauts need to be in peak physical health, allowing them to be agile, whereas a caveman would presumably be less coordinated and blunt; they'd attack on impulse and not fully conceptualize every advantage that could be pressed, the way an astronaut could. |
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Post by mmexis on Nov 12, 2018 2:28:00 GMT
It's a stupid argument really. I, myself, think the caveman physique would overpower modern man.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 2:58:01 GMT
The side that had Buffy on it.
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Post by dazz on Nov 12, 2018 14:41:15 GMT
Caveman, the wilder nature and more instinct based primitive just seems more likely to do better in a bare knuckle brawl to the death, intellect alone doesn't make for a great fighter, also an astronaut is more likely to be the one getting funny about having to cave the others head in to put them down, captain caveman however not so much.
Also depending on experience the astronaut would have weaker bones due to being in space where as cavemen I think had stronger bones to us in general, so were talking more fragile than normal vs tougher than normal on top of the instincts a caveman has over the hang ups an astronaut may have.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Nov 14, 2018 0:45:47 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 14, 2018 0:47:38 GMT
ROCK beats HELMET
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Dec 2, 2018 5:05:28 GMT
If the fight is talking place in space, then the astronaut would have an unparalleled advantage. If on Earth, then it depends on a number of factors, such as the caveman's age, health and whether or not he's suffering from any afflictions or long-term injuries caused by his harsh existence. If in his prime, then he'd likely defeat the astronaut. Again, this is assuming no weapons are used.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Dec 2, 2018 17:30:18 GMT
If the fight is talking place in space, then the astronaut would have an unparalleled advantage. If on Earth, then it depends on a number of factors, such as the caveman's age, health and whether or not he's suffering from any afflictions or long-term injuries caused by his harsh existence. If in his prime, then he'd likely defeat the astronaut. Again, this is assuming no weapons are used. One could make a similar case for the astronaut though; you arguably have to assume both are at their peak, otherwise what's the point? It's not going to be John Glen at the age of 12 fighting this caveman, because he wouldn't have been an astronaut yet; and go too far the other way and then he's a senator - and yet for a good portion of his adult life, he's a Marine just the same; which should count for something. Ditto Buzz Aldrin; the man punches out a reporter at 72 for claiming the moon landing was a hoax. As he going to be nearly as formidable at 72 to fight a caveman as he would at a much younger age? Probably not. So all things being equal, better to assume peak ages and physicality all around; which ostensibly negates the short term ravages of being in space. The actual space missions may be the height of their career, but it's not what earned them that spot in history nor is it the lone qualifier for the distinction of being an astronaut; it's the culmination of training, both in terms of training specifically for the space missions, as well as all preparation that lead them to the point of consideration to enter astronaut training. We're talking about individuals, especially in the early, experimental days of space travel, with strong military backgrounds - Naval and Air Force pilots, Marines and other vets; who had rigorous physical training before entering any space program, and also have to be in tip-top health before being sent into space. There seems to be a lot of assumptions here that caveman equals preternatural strength, when we're really just talking about humans; regular, run of the mill, primitive humans who are just starting to figure out that pointed objects have a variety of uses. What their strength and stamina might be is subjective, but arguably their physical regimen to build that strength is not going to be better than a well trained Marine at the height of their training; so at best the two are matched for strength, but still the caveman lacks the actual training to apply that strength in the most effective way possible. |
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Post by stargazer1682 on Dec 2, 2018 17:34:02 GMT
Under what circumstances are there both? If the astronaut is wearing his or her helmet, they must be in space; in which case a) where did the caveman get their rock? Is it a moon rock? b) the caveman has no helmet (or the rest of the space suit) and therefore is dead in space. And c) the caveman would have no concept of weightlessness even if it wasn't immediately killed by the lack of atmosphere, to accurately or effectively use the rock against the astronaut. If they're on Earth, the astronaut doesn't need the helmet (or the space suit) and wouldn't be wearing it. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 2, 2018 19:57:06 GMT
If the astronaut is wearing his or her helmet, they must be in space If they're on Earth, the astronaut doesn't need the helmet (or the space suit) and wouldn't be wearing it.  |
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