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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 17:21:57 GMT
So if I say that i believe abortion is wrong, because I'm a Christian and as such, believe it's a sin....however, I also believe in free will and think it should be left up to the individual to decide if they want to get one or not; my beliefs shouldn't be forced on anyone....you'd dismiss me as a loon?
A talented reporter could spin that into your belief that anyone who gets one is going to Hell. Meanwhile, all of their 'good intentions' are often doing just what has been suggested. an idiot reporter...just because someone gets an abortion doesn't mean they automatically qualify for Hell
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Post by ABBEY1227 on Nov 12, 2018 17:28:34 GMT
an idiot reporter...just because someone gets an abortion doesn't mean they automatically qualify for Hell
I agree.
The one thing I've never understood about supposedly earnest religious types, is their inability in trusting that their God can handle the judgement of sins in the hereafter.
One of the main reasons I've never self-identified as a Republican is because the GOP was heavily invested in that 'Moral Majority' crowd as I was growing up.
In my area, religious people have always been much more reasonable and 'Live & Let Live' kinda people.
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Post by merh on Nov 12, 2018 17:33:24 GMT
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Nov 12, 2018 17:33:28 GMT
It's important to maintain eye contact, humour them and remove yourself to a safe distance without arousing their anger or suspicion. Amen, Brother!
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Post by merh on Nov 12, 2018 17:35:22 GMT
I never said such thing.
I said I automatically disregard them when they use God in the conversation and when it's God who/what dictates for them their own beliefs. That's insanely stupid.
So if I say that i believe abortion is wrong, because I'm a Christian and as such, believe it's a sin....however, I also believe in free will and think it should be left up to the individual to decide if they want to get one or not; my beliefs shouldn't be forced on anyone....you'd dismiss me as a loon? If one doesnt believe in a higher power it would be logical to dismiss as primitive those that color their choices based on faith.
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Post by ABBEY1227 on Nov 12, 2018 17:37:38 GMT
I would think a more neutral stance on God is the more libertarian attitude.
I would think if there ever was a Black & White/Yes or No kinda question..............this would be it. Either you believe in something more, or you don't.
And I say that as someone who straddles the middle and claims to be agnostic. I can't buy into organized religion or a 'Man in the clouds' kinda concept.
I'd be much more inclined to believe in a more Eastern religion 'Yin/Yang' positive versus negative energy kinda thing myself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 17:37:44 GMT
So if I say that i believe abortion is wrong, because I'm a Christian and as such, believe it's a sin....however, I also believe in free will and think it should be left up to the individual to decide if they want to get one or not; my beliefs shouldn't be forced on anyone....you'd dismiss me as a loon? If one doesnt believe in a higher power it would be logical to dismiss as primitive those that color their choices based on faith. #PROUDPRIMITIVE
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 17:43:20 GMT
It's pointless to debate Biblical principles with people who don't understand them. All it does is further the divide in the dialogue of the subject.
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Post by ABBEY1227 on Nov 12, 2018 17:44:25 GMT
It's pointless to debate Biblical principles with people who don't understand them. All it does is further the divide in the dialogue of the subject.
I'm still clinging to my gourd.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Nov 12, 2018 17:51:26 GMT
Well, here is a quote from a scientist (yes, on TV, but Gil Grissom, forensics scientist on CSI: Crime Scene Investigation) on why we believe: Gil Grissom: You're primitive man on the savannah. You see something move out of the corner of your eye. You assume it's a hyena. You run, you live. If you assume it's the wind and you're wrong, you die. We have the genes of the ones who ran. We're genetically hard-wired to believe living forces that we cannot see.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Nov 13, 2018 2:21:06 GMT
This sorta reminds me of how often I've ended up defending religious people on forum discussions........not their beliefs, per se .......but their right to them. I never saw that situation arising, but it did. Before the last 2 years, that was about the most prevalent source of leftist bullying that I witnessed. What "that" as prevalent source of bullying?
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Post by Rosebud_in_Flames on Nov 13, 2018 2:22:48 GMT
Everyone loves me.
So that's beside the point.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Nov 13, 2018 2:22:48 GMT
I never said such thing.
I said I automatically disregard them when they use God in the conversation and when it's God who/what dictates for them their own beliefs. That's insanely stupid.
So if I say that i believe abortion is wrong, because I'm a Christian and as such, believe it's a sin....however, I also believe in free will and think it should be left up to the individual to decide if they want to get one or not; my beliefs shouldn't be forced on anyone....you'd dismiss me as a loon? Yes, I do.
Are you from 1830 or so?
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Post by Rosebud_in_Flames on Nov 13, 2018 2:24:44 GMT
YOU SHUT YER YAPPER OR I'LL BE FIXIN' TO GET BILLY-JOE-BOB TO WHOOP YER ASS!
Have you lost yer cotton-pickin' mind?
Racist.
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Post by ABBEY1227 on Nov 13, 2018 2:25:20 GMT
This sorta reminds me of how often I've ended up defending religious people on forum discussions........not their beliefs, per se .......but their right to them. I never saw that situation arising, but it did. Before the last 2 years, that was about the most prevalent source of leftist bullying that I witnessed. What "that" as prevalent source of bullying?
Berating people just for having a Belief
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Nov 13, 2018 2:25:23 GMT
Everyone loves me.
So that's beside the point.
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Post by ABBEY1227 on Nov 13, 2018 2:26:02 GMT
Have you lost yer cotton-pickin' mind?
Racist.
Maybe I just don't like Dacron?
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Nov 13, 2018 2:26:30 GMT
What "that" as prevalent source of bullying?
Berating people just for having a Belief
It depends.
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Post by papamihel on Nov 13, 2018 9:14:17 GMT
[/div][/quote] Do they? Cause your rather old school views on sexuality got to upset some people.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Nov 13, 2018 9:20:33 GMT
Do they? Cause your rather old school views on sexuality got to upset some people. Clearly you must be confusing me with someone else. What "old-school views"? Transsexuals being abominations? Pornographic actors being sluts and disgusting people with no credibility at all? This is not old-school at all. Most people laugh out loud at both issues.
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