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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 13, 2018 19:34:40 GMT
Do you think George R.R. Martin will ever finish A Song of Ice and Fire?
Personally i don`t think so.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Nov 13, 2018 20:10:41 GMT
i voted yes,i know a lot of you dont agree with me on this but i think he already finished it
in my opinion and he cant released the books
HBO holding him hostage he will as soon HBO show is over.
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Post by shinnickneth on Nov 14, 2018 0:17:52 GMT
No, I don't think he will. He's not very disciplined, and enjoys the limelight that the show has brought him. In a way, I don't really blame him. It's his life to live - he can do it however he pleases.  |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 14, 2018 0:19:57 GMT
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 14, 2018 3:25:45 GMT
I would click "I don't care" if there was the option.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 14, 2018 4:26:42 GMT
Assuming he lives, then yes.
Unfortunately dude could die any second.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 14, 2018 7:55:58 GMT
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Nov 14, 2018 22:53:57 GMT
Assuming he lives, then yes. Unfortunately dude could die any second. lol why do so many of GOT fans say that about him? i dont think he is that old does he have bad health? if its because of his weight many people who are over weight live long lives unless he has some illness i dont know about it ,otherwise he can be around for a long time |
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Post by amyghost on Nov 14, 2018 22:59:36 GMT
As long as they don't turn it into another tv series.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 14, 2018 23:55:59 GMT
Assuming he lives, then yes. Unfortunately dude could die any second. lol why do so many of GOT fans say that about him? i dont think he is that old does he have bad health? if its because of his weight many people who are over weight live long lives unless he has some illness i dont know about it ,otherwise he can be around for a long time He's seventy and just because many people live past 70 does not mean that many people don't die before 70. |
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Post by Seto on Nov 15, 2018 0:01:42 GMT
Unfortunately I think it is very unlikely.
"The Winds of Winter" I'd say has a decent chance of coming out. He wrote in a blog post that he expected to have it done by the end of 2015, but he hit a snag. That kinda clues me in that he's got most of it done, he is just really stuck on something.
Beyond that book though... Considering each novel has taken longer and longer for him to write. "A Dream of Spring" may very well remain a dream forever.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 15, 2018 1:26:15 GMT
Assuming he lives, then yes. Unfortunately dude could die any second. lol why do so many of GOT fans say that about him? i dont think he is that old He's 70, needs 20 years to write a book and has two left to do. |
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Post by Seto on Nov 23, 2018 11:24:19 GMT
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 23, 2018 12:10:22 GMT
I have thought something along those lines myself. I believe this big story he is telling is… not worth telling after all.
Characters are worth telling about, yes, but that big stupid thing about monsters of ice and fire? Seriously.
So it will be a let down, a bunch of platitudes ("the pack survives") or an anti-climax. It must be the latter.
I suppose he made the danger too big, too serious and too "fantastic". Maybe the author has grown out of this, matured to a point where he no longer values that zombie story all that much. He'd rather portray more people, new people, characters seen from a different point of view. That's what he's been doing in the last two books already.
But I wouldn't see it as a reason for not finishing. He might just finish it in a way which will disappoint expectations of a big northern climax. He said he is inspired by "The Scouring of the Shire" of "Lord of the Rings", which is a strange chapter coming after the actual climax and before the epilogue. I can see him reducing Bran's role, toning down the resolution of the White Walker conflict and spending more time on the aftermath. I would go so far as to speculate that "A Dream of Spring" is meant to be that.
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Post by Seto on Nov 23, 2018 12:52:29 GMT
I have thought something along those lines myself. I believe this big story he is telling is… not worth telling after all. Characters are worth telling about, yes, but that big stupid thing about monsters of ice and fire? Seriously. So it will be a let down, a bunch of platitudes ("the pack survives") or an anti-climax. It must be the latter. I suppose he made the danger too big, too serious and too "fantastic". Maybe the author has grown out of this, matured to a point where he no longer values that zombie story all that much. He'd rather portray more people, new people, characters seen from a different point of view. That's what he's been doing in the last two books already. But I wouldn't see it as a reason for not finishing. He might just finish it in a way which will disappoint expectations of a big northern climax. He said he is inspired by "The Scouring of the Shire" of "Lord of the Rings", which is a strange chapter coming after the actual climax and before the epilogue. I can see him reducing Bran's role, toning down the resolution of the White Walker conflict and spending more time on the aftermath. I would go so far as to speculate that "A Dream of Spring" is meant to be that. Woah!! Leo being downright civil towards me. Miracles can happen. Though I think there's a bit more to the Ice Zombies and Dragons than you think. It's likely the dragons are a metaphor for nuclear weapons and The White Walkers are representative of the philosophical "Other." Both very interesting concepts, with lots of potential. It just remains to be seen if Martin will be able to weave it all together. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 23, 2018 13:37:11 GMT
Though I think there's a bit more to the Ice Zombies and Dragons than you think. It's likely the dragons are a metaphor for nuclear weapons and The White Walkers are representative of the philosophical "Other." Both very interesting concepts, with lots of potential. It just remains to be seen if Martin will be able to weave it all together. White Walkers were kept as far as possible in order to represent death only, not so much the concept of "the other". Now, I know this is what they are called in the books but they are not perceived as something that can be dealt with in any way deemed reasonable, so that whole side of the argument falls off. They are terrorising and I doubt this would change. The Children are this "other" with whom people once made a rather one-sided pact after a war. So all that remains is the usual lame argument about all coming together to save the world from the big peril. It's Tolkien all over again unless I am proven right in thinking that there never was any real peril to start with. The Wall would have been just fine had not the Fool in the North brought a dragon to die on the other side. As to the point on superior weapons not really solving everything or being too destructive to justify usage, this has already been made in Meereen and is also being made in S7 but this is just one thing. GRRM seems to be interested in dozens of things instead, which is why he keeps bringing up all these funny new characters or giving old ones strange adventures, like Brienne's journey in search of Sansa or Davos going to White Harbour. To me it seems the focus has changed with the 4th book. From plot driven, the story has evolved into a gallery of portrayals. |
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