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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 19, 2018 9:11:25 GMT
King McKay breaking a lance for what can be defended. He's right but the patient is still dying.
Edit: no, I still haven't watched the crap.
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Post by Winter_King on Nov 19, 2018 13:22:15 GMT
I don't really think it needs much defending. I have issues with episode 6 most related to how travel a certain character was able to get from point A to point B but season 7 was pretty solid but I still think that they had enough material to deliver a ten episode season.
Still better than season 5 IMO.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 19, 2018 14:10:28 GMT
Really? I had a couple of issues with S5 but I felt insulted by S6 most of the way and nearly everything I gathered from S7 was of the same level.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 19, 2018 14:50:15 GMT
This guy sounds like he's got it at last. Took him quite a while but better late than never.
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Post by Winter_King on Nov 19, 2018 15:37:59 GMT
Really? I had a couple of issues with S5 but I felt insulted by S6 most of the way and nearly everything I gathered from S7 was of the same level. I have to judge on basis of episode per episode. And in S6 the only episode that I think it's very weak is the premiere but episodes like The Door, Battle of the Bastards and Winds of Winter really put it above season 5. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 19, 2018 15:57:32 GMT
The last two episodes of S6 are the absolute worst of the 60 I saw. There is nothing redeemable in them. A complete mockery of the audience.
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Post by Winter_King on Nov 19, 2018 16:44:01 GMT
The last two episodes of S6 are the absolute worst of the 60 I saw. There is nothing redeemable in them. A complete mockery of the audience. To each his own I guess. I consider the Winds of Winter to be one of the best, if not the best episodes of the entire show. The whole sequence of Sept of Baelor was amazing. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 20, 2018 8:17:03 GMT
The last two episodes of S6 are the absolute worst of the 60 I saw. There is nothing redeemable in them. A complete mockery of the audience. To each his own I guess. I consider the Winds of Winter to be one of the best, if not the best episodes of the entire show. The whole sequence of Sept of Baelor was amazing. And yet it made no sense. The High Sparrow deciding to carry on without the king after publicly declaring his last hostage free was a complete blunder, something he would never have risked. Sending Lancel to get Cersei after it had failed once was just a cheap excuse to have him go on some nonsensical adventure underground instead. Margaery suddenly realising what was going to happen had absolutely no basis in anything. She didn't know about the Mad King's wild fire, only Jaime had told Tyrion and, we must assume, Cersei. So no, this "amazing" sequence was just one more example of flashy stuff for fools. I like the music but I'll listen to it on its own. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Nov 20, 2018 9:45:42 GMT
The last two episodes of S6 are the absolute worst of the 60 I saw. There is nothing redeemable in them. A complete mockery of the audience. To each his own I guess. Obviously. Taste differentiates. What made me love this show were the intricacies of the plot and the complexity of characters. Both are dependent on consistent logic. Trying to understand what characters do, why they do it and what they could be doing next was the actual catch. It was what made me live in that story as opposed to just having it wash over me as mild entertainment. I slowly started to like particular characters but that wasn't the main thing. I wasn't upset when they weren't getting where I wanted them as long as I could reflect on why it happened. So I started disliking Tyrion in S4 and that was OK, his evolution made sense, had been visible all along. And Varys was turning out to be something consistent too. I got really upset, however, when characters started to act artificially just so wanted events could be brought along, like Davos staying around dead Jon Snow, Sansa arriving unhindered at Castle Black or Tyrion finding immediate acceptance into Daenerys' inner circle. These things meant the world was broken, analysis was no longer rewarded. There was nothing to understand, only events designed to make fans happy or shocked. Hodor's fate was cheap trickery too, tear jerking stuff without substance. Yes, this one we can blame on GRRM himself. He's not above this either. I never cared for that story-line, though, so it barely mattered but it opened for all sorts of cheating resolutions. Just have Bran see and say something to someone any time (literally, even in the past) and things will change as the authors need them to. Junk. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Nov 20, 2018 12:19:13 GMT
BEST S06 E04 · Book of the Strange  stark/jonsa reunion, timeless i think when it came out i watched it over 100 times  really ticked of sansa haters and will tick them off further in S8 when they reunite again and i doubt any other stark reunion will be at the same level of intensity and passion |
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Post by Winter_King on Nov 20, 2018 13:40:03 GMT
To each his own I guess. I consider the Winds of Winter to be one of the best, if not the best episodes of the entire show. The whole sequence of Sept of Baelor was amazing. And yet it made no sense. The High Sparrow deciding to carry on without the king after publicly declaring his last hostage free was a complete blunder, something he would never have risked. Sending Lancel to get Cersei after it had failed once was just a cheap excuse to have him go on some nonsensical adventure underground instead. Margaery suddenly realising what was going to happen had absolutely no basis in anything. She didn't know about the Mad King's wild fire, only Jaime had told Tyrion and, we must assume, Cersei. So no, this "amazing" sequence was just one more example of flashy stuff for fools. I like the music but I'll listen to it on its own. The High Sparrow had Tommen under his thumb so I don't think he cared about Tommen absence. And Margaery just understood that something was wrong because Cersei understood the consequences of her absence and still wasn't in the Sept. She didn't know about the wildfire, only that something was wrong. Minor details don't wash how fantastic that sequence was IMO in pretty much every aspect. |
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stark/jonsa reunion, timeless i think when it came out i watched it over 100 times 