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Post by summers8 on Nov 22, 2018 19:20:53 GMT
Last stand at best was a mixed film. I will take it over apocalypse.
what is in 2019 again? wonder woman 2? that could be great. so far as bad as this movie could be, it still looks better and more promising than captain marvel.
You have no interest in Joker? joker is a special case. that is already win just for the style they are taken alone. so far I see it more as v for vendetta type of film.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 22, 2018 19:35:08 GMT
What does the date of release really mean in the scheme of things? It doesn’t assist someone’s argument. Indulge me in your vast knowledge. Because I told him I had to look up what year Logan came out. I mean, to be fair, I can't tell you when any of the Burtonverse Batman movies came out besides Batman '89 because we call it Batman '89. Can't say when any of the Donnerverse Superman movies came out besides Superman '78. Can only say when the 1st 3 X-men movies came out because they were every 3 years starting in 2000. Batman Begins? Have to look it up. TDK only because it came out the same year as Iron Man and that's because we keep getting reminded that the MCU started in 2008 and it's Marvel Stud10s right now.
batman begins was 2005. wonder why marvel did not take cue from that film on how to make a compelling origins drama with iron man 2008 even before first class in 2011 that is schooloing black panther that tried to borrow from first class.instead marvel made a basic action movie in 2008 with iron man....so sad. LMAO, I will reduce the level from TDK to batman begins for DC and mcu will still be dumb.
This is batman begins right? look at the cinematography of the movie...this is not some toy commercial.
now look at catoon iron man
yawn next please...we need more artistic comic movies...
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 22, 2018 19:53:14 GMT
Because I told him I had to look up what year Logan came out. I mean, to be fair, I can't tell you when any of the Burtonverse Batman movies came out besides Batman '89 because we call it Batman '89. Can't say when any of the Donnerverse Superman movies came out besides Superman '78. Can only say when the 1st 3 X-men movies came out because they were every 3 years starting in 2000. Batman Begins? Have to look it up. TDK only because it came out the same year as Iron Man and that's because we keep getting reminded that the MCU started in 2008 and it's Marvel Stud10s right now.
batman begins was 2005. wonder why marvel did not take cue from that film on how to make a compelling origins drama with iron man 2008 even before first class in 2011 that is schooloing black panther that tried to borrow from first class.instead marvel made a basic action movie in 2008 with iron man....so sad. LMAO, I will reduce the level from TDK to batman begins for DC and mcu will still be dumb.
This is batman begins right? look at the cinematography of the movie...this is not some toy commercial.
now look at catoon iron man
yawn next place...we need more artistic comic movies...
Wasn't Batman Begins criticized for being too close in the fight scenes?
We need more artistic comic book movies? You like X-men movies, random person.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 22, 2018 20:27:52 GMT
batman begins was 2005. wonder why marvel did not take cue from that film on how to make a compelling origins drama with iron man 2008 even before first class in 2011 that is schooloing black panther that tried to borrow from first class.instead marvel made a basic action movie in 2008 with iron man....so sad. LMAO, I will reduce the level from TDK to batman begins for DC and mcu will still be dumb.
This is batman begins right? look at the cinematography of the movie...this is not some toy commercial.
now look at catoon iron man
yawn next place...we need more artistic comic movies...
Wasn't Batman Begins criticized for being too close in the fight scenes?
We need more artistic comic book movies? You like X-men movies, random person.
not a criticism that can cause damage to cinema and harm comic movies like mcu movies. also the story telling style of batman begins made up for everything. everyone knows fight scenes are not one of nolan's strengths but he makes up for it with things like cinematography, story telling and art direction. look at this fight scene of batman begins. its a fight scene that is suppose to help bruce developed as a character. thanks to Raz teaching him about the difference between justice vs revenge...what are the themes of iron man again worth remembering?
I like artistic comic movies ....that covers xmen, sam raimi's spiderman and DC.
Poor mcu... toy commercial cartoonish movies. not necessarily the art of comic movies..the ultimate disgrace instead.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 22, 2018 20:52:14 GMT
Wasn't Batman Begins criticized for being too close in the fight scenes?
We need more artistic comic book movies? You like X-men movies, random person.
not a criticism that can cause damage to cinema and harm comic movies like mcu movies. also the story telling style of batman begins made up for everything. everyone knows fight scenes are not one of nolan's strengths but he makes up for it with things like cinematography, story telling and art direction. look at this fight scene of batman begins. its a fight scene that is suppose to help bruce developed as a character. thanks to Raz teaching him about the difference between justice vs revenge...what are the themes of iron man again worth remembering?
I like artistic comic movies ....that covers xmen, sam raimi's spiderman and DC.
Poor mcu... toy commercial cartoonish movies. not necessarily the art of comic movies..the ultimate disgrace instead.
Oh now I remember who you are. You're the douchebag of these boards. So you're not to be taken seriously. Got it.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 22, 2018 21:01:44 GMT
not a criticism that can cause damage to cinema and harm comic movies like mcu movies. also the story telling style of batman begins made up for everything. everyone knows fight scenes are not one of nolan's strengths but he makes up for it with things like cinematography, story telling and art direction. look at this fight scene of batman begins. its a fight scene that is suppose to help bruce developed as a character. thanks to Raz teaching him about the difference between justice vs revenge...what are the themes of iron man again worth remembering?
I like artistic comic movies ....that covers xmen, sam raimi's spiderman and DC.
Poor mcu... toy commercial cartoonish movies. not necessarily the art of comic movies..the ultimate disgrace instead.
Oh now I remember who you are. You're the douchebag of these boards. So you're not to be taken seriously. Got it. HOW BORING.
Deflect the comments and go after the person.
who calls another person a douchebag for pointing out the fantastic story telling of batman begins to the toy commercial that is iron man 2008.
LAMO.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 22, 2018 21:09:19 GMT
Oh now I remember who you are. You're the douchebag of these boards. So you're not to be taken seriously. Got it. HOW BORING.
Deflect the comments and go after the person.
who calls another person a douchebag for pointing out the fantastic story telling of batman begins to the toy commercial that is iron man 2008.
LAMO.
Well, there's a solution to that. Don't be a douchebag all the time and I won't have to call it like I see it. You do yourself no favors around here when you act all superior and think you're right all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 23:07:58 GMT
I'm glad I'm not so invested in this that I've already decided it's gonna suck. Just sayin'. I'll go to the film optimistic that it's going to be good vs. having some sort of pessimistic low expectation shield t keep my ego safe. I won't be leading a cheer squad before, but man, it seems like there's a lot of dourness for this one. Here, listen to this old ditty, it'll help cheer you up if you are feeling down:
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Post by summers8 on Nov 23, 2018 5:44:42 GMT
lol..now I think of batman. hope matt reeves batman comes out the same time as mcu xmen. talk of total disgrace and annihilation for mcu xmen. that should be fun to watch,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 15:32:43 GMT
Y'all are amazing. This is finally the opportunity to set straight what I thought, and I think a great majority of fandom believed, was a great wrong in The Last Stand.
DOFP was written partially to make that film cease as part of fixed canon. To right that wrong to the series. Nobody has faith that this story can be told better? This is that chance! It has already been stated that this film will be much more faithful to the original story.
Or are the majority here of the mind that Matthew Vaughn's influence was the driving force that made the new films really good and the whole rebooted track petered out when he left?
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 23, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
I hope I'm wrong, but this movie has the word "mediocrity" painted all over it. Even their twitter posts are ridiculously blah.
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Post by scabab on Nov 23, 2018 21:26:27 GMT
Yeah I've never been so disinterested in an X-Men movie. Logan should have been the final movie in the X-Men series, not counting Deadpool.
I didn't think Apocalypse was as bad as some made it out to be but this probably won't be any better. There's just nothing interesting to take away from this movie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 22:10:05 GMT
A montage of X-Men fans predictions of their next movie!
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 24, 2018 2:29:38 GMT
Wow, I thought this thread would be full of excitement from the fandom! I'm excited that this one will do the original story credit. Why would anyone who likes this series feel that way? I would hate to go into a film from a franchise I have found good with excuses for why it sucks the first thing in my thoughts! That the same writer of the earlier critically panned adaptation plus their worst superhero film yet is in the director’s chair does not inspire confidence. Yet it’s not all bad. I did love Days of Future Past and didn’t mind Apocalypse too much. X-Men: The Last Stand was not critical panned. It nearly has a fresh on RT. And a co-writer doesn’t have the final say on the script. The studio and director hold more power. That the same writer of the earlier critically panned adaptation plus their worst superhero film yet is in the director’s chair does not inspire confidence. Yet it’s not all bad. I did love Days of Future Past and didn’t mind Apocalypse too much. Because Days of Future Past had Matthew Vaughn's fingerprints on it. You can tell what replaced his stuff because it was samey. Apocalypse is what you get without Vaughn. He only came up with story elements, he didn’t script. And story is not the only thing that movie was praised for. Saying that he was responsible for the acting, directing, effects, and action is just ridiculous. The writers of X2 came up with the story elements of Apocalypse.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 24, 2018 2:49:48 GMT
"Sophie Turner is Jean Grey." lol Why not wait til the movie close to coming out then remind us? Reminding us every few weeks just reminds us that they keep pushing the movie back. The worst part is that the image was already posted when the trailer was released. I hope I'm wrong, but this movie has the word "mediocrity" painted all over it. Even their twitter posts are ridiculously blah. Yeah I've never been so disinterested in an X-Men movie. Logan should have been the final movie in the X-Men series, not counting Deadpool. I didn't think Apocalypse was as bad as some made it out to be but this probably won't be any better. There's just nothing interesting to take away from this movie. The marketing seems to holding back similar to Logan before it’s second trailer. They cut out the cool parts from the original alternate trailer.
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 24, 2018 10:42:32 GMT
That the same writer of the earlier critically panned adaptation plus their worst superhero film yet is in the director’s chair does not inspire confidence. Yet it’s not all bad. I did love Days of Future Past and didn’t mind Apocalypse too much. X-Men: The Last Stand was not critical panned. It nearly has a fresh on RT. And a co-writer doesn’t have the final say on the script. The studio and director hold more power. Because Days of Future Past had Matthew Vaughn's fingerprints on it. You can tell what replaced his stuff because it was samey. Apocalypse is what you get without Vaughn. He only came up with story elements, he didn’t script. And story is not the only thing that movie was praised for. Saying that he was responsible for the acting, directing, effects, and action is just ridiculous. The writers of X2 came up with the story elements of Apocalypse. And most of what we got in DoFP was from X2. Like I said, you can tell where Vaughn's involvement ended.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 24, 2018 12:18:27 GMT
X-Men: The Last Stand was not critical panned. It nearly has a fresh on RT. And a co-writer doesn’t have the final say on the script. The studio and director hold more power. He only came up with story elements, he didn’t script. And story is not the only thing that movie was praised for. Saying that he was responsible for the acting, directing, effects, and action is just ridiculous. The writers of X2 came up with the story elements of Apocalypse. And most of what we got in DoFP was from X2. Like I said, you can tell where Vaughn's involvement ended. actually last stand got mixed reviews. it is still deemed better than most of the mcu movies in the real world. since last stand criticism was things were rushed unlike mcu movies were things are just dumb.
also last stand had some highs. kelsey grammer's beast and ellen page's kitty pryde. a far cry from movies like iron man 3, thor 2, age of ultron or gotg 2 were there is no high moment in the movie.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 24, 2018 12:19:49 GMT
I hope I'm wrong, but this movie has the word "mediocrity" painted all over it. Even their twitter posts are ridiculously blah. u do have to wonder from the trailer when you saw mediocrity and was still deemed better than captain marvel's trailer.
hm...looks like you took the first class schooling black panther pretty bad.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 24, 2018 12:21:27 GMT
That the same writer of the earlier critically panned adaptation plus their worst superhero film yet is in the director’s chair does not inspire confidence. Yet it’s not all bad. I did love Days of Future Past and didn’t mind Apocalypse too much. X-Men: The Last Stand was not critical panned. It nearly has a fresh on RT. And a co-writer doesn’t have the final say on the script. The studio and director hold more power. Because Days of Future Past had Matthew Vaughn's fingerprints on it. You can tell what replaced his stuff because it was samey. Apocalypse is what you get without Vaughn. He only came up with story elements, he didn’t script. And story is not the only thing that movie was praised for. Saying that he was responsible for the acting, directing, effects, and action is just ridiculous. The writers of X2 came up with the story elements of Apocalypse. Vaughn/Singer could be a perfect combo. I think this is going to hunt mcu xmen directors. it not like they will have the chance to direct anway. one good thing with xmen movies is their directors and talent shows. you can tell a singer, mangold, vaughn, brett ratner, miller xmen movie. their movies differ since they are real films.
remember DOFP was directed by Singer but Vaughn had a lot of input. James Cameron was a consultant.
First Class was directed by Vaughn but Singer had a lot of input he was a writer and producer.
and ofcourse as it is xmen the directing, effects, acting all matter. this is were most of the acclaim is including the story aka screenplay.
take Fassbender, he was an indie guy but first class made him mainstream because he gave a fantastic performance as Magneto. there was even oscar talk for supporting actor. almost feel bad for killmonger here. but at the same time this is a credict I give to Vaughn. if you watch his other comic films like kick ass or kingsman, you would see the similarities on how Vaughn does characters.
as said this are director driven movies. FC and DOFP. at this point only batman begins and TDKR can match them in sheer talent of film making.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 24, 2018 18:08:04 GMT
I hope I'm wrong, but this movie has the word "mediocrity" painted all over it. Even their twitter posts are ridiculously blah. u do have to wonder from the trailer when you saw mediocrity and was still deemed better than captain marvel's trailer.
hm...looks like you took the first class schooling black panther pretty bad.
Oh, Captain Marvel's trailer was indeed very underwhelming, same with the Dark Phoenix trailer. The only difference is that, based on their previous track records, I'm pretty sure that when the actual movies come out Captain Marvel will be a lot better than Dark Phoenix. FC and BP have nothing to do with this thread. The fact that you even brought it up shows how frustrated you are that BP is actually better than FC.
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