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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 29, 2017 2:10:18 GMT
Sony execs recently stated that After a sequel to Homecoming, and two more appearances in Infinity War, it may be difficult for a crossover between companies to ever work again. And yes, this means they may very well be unwilling to keep sharing the character.
But what does that really mean?
I mean it's a negotiation tactic. I have no doubt that Sony is fully willing and capable of running with their own independent series and reclaiming sole rights to Spiderman, but I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity to find out what Marvel is willing to pay to retain rights to use the character. The question would be to what extent Marvel would entertain a negotiation, and if Sony is only interested in top dollar and nothing less.
To me, the smart thing Sony should do is design a spiderverse that works with the MCU so that it's movies can be entirely independent, but still have the capability for some crossover appearances from time to time, just not to the extent that occurs with the other MCU movies. The solo Venom flick for instance, would automatically sell more tickets and DVD's if it has at least some relation to the MCU, even if that is vague and undefined, than if it had no connection whatsoever.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 29, 2017 2:24:26 GMT
avi arad..........avi arad..........avi arad and amy pascal
I mean worst part is that basically the deal was "you keep the sony films money, and we keep the Disney money" and sony thinks they have leverage, perhaps they do have some, but marvel doesn't need Spider-Man........sorry but true and if sony does pull Spider-Man out Disney won't get blamed, sony executives are painting themselves as egotistical pricks.
also adi Shankar is eyed for venom solo flick.....blech
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 29, 2017 2:49:18 GMT
avi arad..........avi arad..........avi arad and amy pascalI mean worst part is that basically the deal was "you keep the sony films money, and we keep the Disney money" and sony thinks they have leverage, perhaps they do have some, but marvel doesn't need Spider-Man........sorry but true and if sony does pull Spider-Man out Disney won't get blamed, sony executives are painting themselves as egotistical pricks. also adi Shankar is eyed for venom solo flick.....blech I agree, which makes me wonder if they really go through with it.
I think the Venom film may be very telling. If the Venom film does not outright contradict anything in the MCU, and could be viewed as though it is a part of the MCU, then I think Sony is open to a continued relationship and sharing characters.
If the Venom film outright contradicts the MCU such that it is impossible to consider that it even could be a part of the same universe, then they basically have no interest in sharing and will want to use Spidey for themselves as soon as possible.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 29, 2017 3:57:19 GMT
That was fast.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 4:20:42 GMT
...I'm beginning to think the other companies producing superhero films like having the ire of their fanbases.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 29, 2017 4:24:19 GMT
Shhh! You're gonna jinx it!
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Post by TheHiawatha on Mar 29, 2017 4:35:20 GMT
Sony execs recently stated that After a sequel to Homecoming, and two more appearances in Infinity War, it may be difficult for a crossover between companies to ever work again. And yes, this means they may very well be unwilling to keep sharing the character.
But what does that really mean?
I mean it's a negotiation tactic. I have no doubt that Sony is fully willing and capable of running with their own independent series and reclaiming sole rights to Spiderman, but I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity to find out what Marvel is willing to pay to retain rights to use the character. The question would be to what extent Marvel would entertain a negotiation, and if Sony is only interested in top dollar and nothing less.
To me, the smart thing Sony should do is design a spiderverse that works with the MCU so that it's movies can be entirely independent, but still have the capability for some crossover appearances from time to time, just not to the extent that occurs with the other MCU movies. The solo Venom flick for instance, would automatically sell more tickets and DVD's if it has at least some relation to the MCU, even if that is vague and undefined, than if it had no connection whatsoever. Yeah, honestly I doubt Sony is stupid enough to risk killing off the goose that's laying them the golden eggs. I think Sony just wants a bigger share of the pie, but even then they probably are well aware that Marvel has far more leverage than they do. If "Spider-Man: Homecoming" gets positive reception and is a huge hit, perhaps even a mega-hit, they'll almost certainly stick with their partnership with Marvel, and according to actual interviews Pascal and Rothman both have a lot of respect for Feige and have allowed him and his team creative control of Homecoming. Wouldn't be surprised if what happens is that "Venom" and other possible Spider-Man spinoffs are made to be more or less part of the MCU, but pretty much on their own like "Deadpool" was with the X-Men.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 29, 2017 4:38:56 GMT
Sony execs recently stated that After a sequel to Homecoming, and two more appearances in Infinity War, it may be difficult for a crossover between companies to ever work again. And yes, this means they may very well be unwilling to keep sharing the character.
But what does that really mean?
I mean it's a negotiation tactic. I have no doubt that Sony is fully willing and capable of running with their own independent series and reclaiming sole rights to Spiderman, but I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity to find out what Marvel is willing to pay to retain rights to use the character. The question would be to what extent Marvel would entertain a negotiation, and if Sony is only interested in top dollar and nothing less.
To me, the smart thing Sony should do is design a spiderverse that works with the MCU so that it's movies can be entirely independent, but still have the capability for some crossover appearances from time to time, just not to the extent that occurs with the other MCU movies. The solo Venom flick for instance, would automatically sell more tickets and DVD's if it has at least some relation to the MCU, even if that is vague and undefined, than if it had no connection whatsoever. Yeah, honestly I doubt Sony is stupid enough to risk killing off the goose that's laying them the golden eggs. I think Sony just wants a bigger share of pie, but even then they probably are well aware that Marvel has far more leverage than they do. Wouldn't be surprised if what happens is that "Venom" and other possible Spider-Man spinoffs are made to be more or less part of the MCU, but pretty much on their own like "Deadpool" was with the X-Men. And honestly I'd be fine with that. I wouldn't mind at all Sony producing a very loosely connected set of films that you could include with the MCU if you wanted to, but they largely did their own thing. All they have to do is not contradict anything. Other than that, they could do what they wanted to.
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Post by hardball on Mar 29, 2017 7:41:31 GMT
Holland's contract is for 6 spiderman films, including 3 solo. He has used one for CACW and the two likely for the Infinity War films. Another one will be for the Homecoming sequel. It is unlikely that Sony will use Holland for a third Spiderman film if it is not set in the MCU, esp if the two previous ones are well received.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 29, 2017 14:50:00 GMT
Honestly i wish Disney would just buy the rights from sony!
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Post by brownstones on Mar 29, 2017 18:56:48 GMT
Honestly i wish Disney would just buy the rights from sony! Sony would probably let him go for maybe........10 billion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 19:00:34 GMT
Honestly i wish Disney would just buy the rights from sony! Sony would probably let him go for maybe........10 billion. Disney could probably pay that and feel a sting.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 29, 2017 19:40:05 GMT
Sony would probably let him go for maybe........10 billion. Disney could probably pay that and feel a sting. Wouldn't even make a dent for them, I don't think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 19:41:25 GMT
That's what I meant. Just didn't catch the grammar error of leaving out the "not".
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 29, 2017 19:52:45 GMT
Yeah, they wipe their ass with that kind of money. They would shell out whatever Sony is stupid enough to ask them for and pay it and then make it back and more. Because, unlike Sony, they know how to manage intellectual properties in a profitable way.
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Post by charzhino on Dec 6, 2018 14:44:30 GMT
Sony execs recently stated that After a sequel to Homecoming, and two more appearances in Infinity War, it may be difficult for a crossover between companies to ever work again. And yes, this means they may very well be unwilling to keep sharing the character.
But what does that really mean?
I mean it's a negotiation tactic. I have no doubt that Sony is fully willing and capable of running with their own independent series and reclaiming sole rights to Spiderman, but I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity to find out what Marvel is willing to pay to retain rights to use the character. The question would be to what extent Marvel would entertain a negotiation, and if Sony is only interested in top dollar and nothing less.
To me, the smart thing Sony should do is design a spiderverse that works with the MCU so that it's movies can be entirely independent, but still have the capability for some crossover appearances from time to time, just not to the extent that occurs with the other MCU movies. The solo Venom flick for instance, would automatically sell more tickets and DVD's if it has at least some relation to the MCU, even if that is vague and undefined, than if it had no connection whatsoever. Spectacularly wrong prediction by Arch (who I gather has reappeared on a different site). Venom needed no MCU links at all, not even in the lightest for it to be a financial success that may still top Homecoming. Can someone please point this out to him?
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Post by Power Ranger on Dec 6, 2018 14:56:31 GMT
Sony execs recently stated that After a sequel to Homecoming, and two more appearances in Infinity War, it may be difficult for a crossover between companies to ever work again. And yes, this means they may very well be unwilling to keep sharing the character.
But what does that really mean?
I mean it's a negotiation tactic. I have no doubt that Sony is fully willing and capable of running with their own independent series and reclaiming sole rights to Spiderman, but I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity to find out what Marvel is willing to pay to retain rights to use the character. The question would be to what extent Marvel would entertain a negotiation, and if Sony is only interested in top dollar and nothing less.
To me, the smart thing Sony should do is design a spiderverse that works with the MCU so that it's movies can be entirely independent, but still have the capability for some crossover appearances from time to time, just not to the extent that occurs with the other MCU movies. The solo Venom flick for instance, would automatically sell more tickets and DVD's if it has at least some relation to the MCU, even if that is vague and undefined, than if it had no connection whatsoever. Spectacularly wrong prediction by Arch (who I gather has reappeared on a different site). Venom needed no MCU links at all, not even in the lightest for it to be a financial success that may still top Homecoming. Can someone please point this out to him? If Sony rip Spidey from the MCU, there is going to be a very cranky Arf Arf. 😂
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 6, 2018 15:07:42 GMT
Good spidey deserves to be back with sony and fight tom hardys venom
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Post by charzhino on Dec 6, 2018 15:20:56 GMT
Good spidey deserves to be back with sony and fight tom hardys venom When Sony get Spidey back, they need to fire Tom Holland. Hes too much of a kid, would get destroyed by Venom.
They should recast Andrew Garfield, the best Spiderman to date.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 6, 2018 15:28:29 GMT
Good spidey deserves to be back with sony and fight tom hardys venom When Sony get Spidey back, they need to fire Tom Holland. Hes too much of a kid, would get destroyed by Venom.
They should recast Andrew Garfield, the best Spiderman to date.
Yes I thought the same. I want a Spiderman for once, not a Spiderkid.
But I would prefer a fresh actor who can play against high clibers like Tom Hardy or Woody's Carnage.
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