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Post by kevin on Feb 13, 2017 19:06:26 GMT
Who do you think will die in season 7? You can choose as many characters as you want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 21:47:00 GMT
The only one I'm pretty sure is gonna cop it is Littlefinger (Boooooooo!)
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 14, 2017 5:33:06 GMT
Who do you think will die in season 7? You can choose as many characters as you want. People do not need to think, they just know from the leaks about a few of them so the results are skewed.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 14, 2017 6:22:02 GMT
The only one I'm pretty sure is gonna cop it is Littlefinger (Boooooooo!) It will be for the best cause, though.
Season 7 spoilers say that Olenna would reveal her role in Joffrey’s assassination and that Sansa would have Littlefinger killed. While many will think that Littlefinger’s demise is just the natural way of things in the story and that “he had it coming” for a long time, it is good to be reminded that things sometime happen for a reason. Why should Olenna reveal this if not in an attempt at setting Cersei up against Littlefinger? Her motivation will be to deprive her enemy of a potential ally. Why should Sansa decide to eliminate the man who wants to put her on the throne? She will do it to get there on her own terms. He will have been scheming something, that much is certain, but the girl he trained has learned to do things for her own benefit and she has learned that fools do not get anywhere for long. She will experience disagreements with Jon and won’t support Daenerys’ wheel breaking intentions. She will not fall in love with Tyrion but once given a chance to set the record straight about Joffrey, she’ll have the means of making an ally of Cersei again. She will deliver the head of the man who hurt them both and the “little dove” will become Cersei’s adoptive heir. Sansa Lannister will be the second queen of the Reign Of Lions
Sansa has no particular ambition on the Iron Throne but she ought to see Littlefinger as a resource, someone who wants something from her and will be ready to do things for the hope of obtaining it. He is not someone she would discard because she can, at least not until he becomes troublesome.
His plans, however, will become an obstacle to a necessary alliance with the south just as the accusation on her head must keep Cersei away from the very prospect. Removing him will solve all this.
As to becoming Cersei's heir, it will not be Sansa's own demand but Cersei's offer. Sansa will be a replacement for the loss of Myrcella.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 16:01:00 GMT
I'm gonna continue to hold out hope that Sansa finally bites it
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 20, 2017 16:28:47 GMT
I'm gonna continue to hold out hope that Sansa finally bites it She will be crowned Queen of the Seven Kingdoms next to Cersei in the finale of Season 8. From there on, she will be the leading character of the sequel A Reign Of Lions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 2:59:22 GMT
I'm gonna continue to hold out hope that Sansa finally bites it She will be crowned Queen of the Seven Kingdoms next to Cersei in the finale of Season 8. From there on, she will be the leading character of the sequel A Reign Of Lions.
Is this somehow confirmed? Because this will annoy the hell out of me. I just want that character to die so badly. I can't stand Sansa or Sophie Turner. I'm tired of them dedicating story time to her. Also what sequel are you talking about? I've heard that HBO was in talks of a possible sequel but never saw anything confirming it let a lone an actual title. Is this you just speculating on all of this? Because you're acting like it's this known and confirmed thing. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 21, 2017 6:18:41 GMT
She will be crowned Queen of the Seven Kingdoms next to Cersei in the finale of Season 8. From there on, she will be the leading character of the sequel A Reign Of Lions.
Is this somehow confirmed? Because this will annoy the hell out of me. I just want that character to die so badly. I guess that confirms it. If you think this has a happy ending…
Also what sequel are you talking about?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 7:44:18 GMT
Is this somehow confirmed? Because this will annoy the hell out of me. I just want that character to die so badly. I guess that confirms it. If you think this has a happy ending…
Also what sequel are you talking about?
Season 8 spoiler underneath
You mentioned A Reign Of Lions as being this sequel. That has not been anything that I have heard until now. I know there were talks of some sort of spin off/sequel to GOT by HBO at some point but nothing that I recall was every released or finalized. None of this that you're posting seems to be credible in any sort of way and just seems to be you speculating. Otherwise where are these "spoilers" coming from? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 7:47:57 GMT
Yeah a quick google search and nothing of that name is coming up in regards to Game of Thrones. Cool theory though but I sure as hell am not rooting for that outcome that's for sure.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 21, 2017 8:22:23 GMT
Yeah a quick google search and nothing of that name is coming up in regards to Game of Thrones. Cool theory though but I sure as hell am not rooting for that outcome that's for sure. I guess you didn't find the breastplate stretcher either, did you? Some people just can't be trusted to achieve anything  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 8:42:54 GMT
Yeah a quick google search and nothing of that name is coming up in regards to Game of Thrones. Cool theory though but I sure as hell am not rooting for that outcome that's for sure. I guess you didn't find the breastplate stretcher either, did you? Some people just can't be trusted to achieve anything By all means prove me to be wrong. I am open enough to admit when I am. If you have any type of concrete evidence that any of this is accurate instead of just a fan theory I'm open to seeing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 8:57:52 GMT
In all seriousness I don't expect Sansa to die sadly I just hope she does. Sadly Little Finger seems to be on the chopping block from what I saw people post on IMDB from Reddit. How credible those sources are idk but I believe it's from the same sources that spoiled Jon's revival and the Tower of Joy.
Given Cersei's prophecy she's gonna bite it sooner or later. With the way she had gone all Mad Queen at the end of last season and the way Jaime was looking at her. I got chills thinking that Jaime is going to be the one to kill Cersei.
“Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds,” she said. “And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
“What is a valonqar? Some monster?”
"It’s High Valyrian, it means little brother.”
Now I'm not a book reader but it's very possible that Jaime was born second (unless said otherwise) and would therefore be deemed a younger brother. I think she might die in the Season 7 finale.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 9:01:31 GMT
In all seriousness I don't expect Sansa to die sadly I just hope she does. Sadly Little Finger seems to be on the chopping block from what I saw people post on IMDB from Reddit. How credible those sources are idk but I believe it's from the same sources that spoiled Jon's revival and the Tower of Joy. Given Cersei's prophecy she's gonna bite it sooner or later. With the way she had gone all Mad Queen at the end of last season and the way Jaime was looking at her. I got chills thinking that Jaime is going to be the one to kill Cersei. “Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds,” she said. “And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.” “What is a valonqar? Some monster?” "It’s High Valyrian, it means little brother.” Now I'm not a book reader but it's very possible that Jaime was born second (unless said otherwise) and would therefore be deemed a younger brother. I think she might die in the Season 7 finale. Yep, Cersei was born first. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 9:17:44 GMT
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AWESOME! Thanks for confirming that to me. I fully believe that Jaime will kill her in the Season 7 finale as the war is ending. Then season 8 (I believe the final season correct?) will then all be dedicated to the remaining living factions joining together and battling the White Walkers. I assume Danys will likely have the Iron Throne at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 9:33:17 GMT
I'm sort of expecting the Iron Throne to be destroyed. Melted by the dragons on Dany's command or something. She does like her symbolic gestures. I'm also expecting Dany, Jon and Tyrion to form a triarchy. I'm at the point in the books where Tyrion is discussing the idea of triarchies in whatever city he's wandering around and I think it's significant that he's thinking about it, albeit in a minor way.
I had the same thought that Jaime will kill Cersei, or maybe it was just shown that way to send us in that direction. I try to avoid reading fan theories but I know this one is floating around out there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 9:43:27 GMT
I'm sort of expecting the Iron Throne to be destroyed. Melted by the dragons on Dany's command or something. She does like her symbolic gestures. I'm also expecting Dany, Jon and Tyrion to form a triarchy. I'm at the point in the books where Tyrion is discussing the idea of triarchies in whatever city he's wandering around and I think it's significant that he's thinking about it, albeit in a minor way. I had the same thought that Jaime will kill Cersei, or maybe it was just shown that way to send us in that direction. I try to avoid reading fan theories but I know this one is floating around out there. Yeah I agree on Jon, Dany, and Tyrion doing that. I would say something in regards to a fan theory but since you avoid them I'll keep it to myself. I never thought of Danys burning down the Throne but her entire purpose is to reclaim it no? Unless something happens a long the way for her to learn of a better way to rule then with an iron fist and fear then I could definitely see her doing that. It's all possible. I just think the biggest pay off with Cersei would be Jaime killing her. All their kids are gone and Jaime could possibly blame Cersei for the death of Tommen after Cersei killed his Queen and all. Plus given Cersei is on the Iron Throne we'd get another King/Queen Slayer moment from Jaime. I think Cersei would least suspect Jaime to kill her as Tyrion obviously has the vendetta and Jaime is her lover and all. To me that just writes itself. I'll be cheering at my TV if that happens. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 21, 2017 10:53:37 GMT
@mockingbird AWESOME! Thanks for confirming that to me. I fully believe that Jaime will kill her in the Season 7 finale as the war is ending. Then season 8 (I believe the final season correct?) will then all be dedicated to the remaining living factions joining together and battling the White Walkers. I assume Danys will likely have the Iron Throne at this point. Prophecies do not come true; they only influence people who believe in them.
Margaery did not take Myrcella away from Cersei, nor did she cast her down. Belief in one, however, is what drove Cersei to take action against her.
Maggy the Frog’s prophecy was introduced to the story just before Cersei started to cause trouble for herself. She was not responsible for Joffrey's or Myrcella's fate but she caused her own downfall through her attempt at thwarting Margaery. Joffrey's death, Myrcella’s situation in Dorne and the perceived danger for herself after Tywin’s death are what brought it back to her memory.
In the books, the valonqar adds another layer to explain her panic fear and hatred of Tyrion. She had nightmarish dreams about him in her first chapter in A Feast For Crows and it is what drove her to want him dead so badly. This rippled over the Narrow Sea when the price she set on his head caused the death of Penny's brother. All this is irrelevant in the show so the valonqar was left out. Cersei’s belief in Tyrion's guilt is more plausible, more rational there.
Maggy the Frog's prophecy has no direct effect on the story but Cersei's recollection of it has. The "valonqar" part of it is no indication of anything that will happen in the show.
Discussions on who the valonqar may be miss the point the author wants to make, which is that belief in prophecies influence people. There will be no killing valonqar in the books either, but Cersei might believe there is one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 11:08:12 GMT
Sorry, avoid was the wrong word. You can air your theory or anyone else's, I'm cool with them coming up in conversation. What I mean is I don't go seeking them out as I prefer to talk about things as they come up. It's not a spoiler avoidance thing, I enjoy hearing people's ideas about what will happen. What I meant was that I'm probably not as aware of a lot of the big theories as others might be as I avoid sites where actual spoilers might be dotted around.
Dany and the throne, yeah her plan was to claim the throne but it hasn't been her main focus for a while, she's not much of a forward planner and tends to go with things as they arise. It crops up with her now and again but then she'll do something else that's more important at the time or because other things prevent her from going back and claiming it. Her brother was the one focused on the throne with a singular mission to claim it, she seems more of an improvisor and idealist and I think she'll start to see the throne as something that (symbolically) goes against her ideals. Of course she wants to rule, but I think despite her shouting her titles all over the place, it's actually a desire to improve things for the people and not a thirst for power. She just knows she needs power to realise her vision.
I think Jon and Tyrion would gel well with her vision: Her idealism and compassion, Jon's fairness and sense of duty, Tyrion's realism and strategic ability. It would be a good mix, they would compliment each other and temper the flaws of the others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 14:20:33 GMT
Sorry, avoid was the wrong word. You can air your theory or anyone else's, I'm cool with them coming up in conversation. What I mean is I don't go seeking them out as I prefer to talk about things as they come up. It's not a spoiler avoidance thing, I enjoy hearing people's ideas about what will happen. What I meant was that I'm probably not as aware of a lot of the big theories as others might be as I avoid sites where actual spoilers might be dotted around. Dany and the throne, yeah her plan was to claim the throne but it hasn't been her main focus for a while, she's not much of a forward planner and tends to go with things as they arise. It crops up with her now and again but then she'll do something else that's more important at the time or because other things prevent her from going back and claiming it. Her brother was the one focused on the throne with a singular mission to claim it, she seems more of an improvisor and idealist and I think she'll start to see the throne as something that (symbolically) goes against her ideals. Of course she wants to rule, but I think despite her shouting her titles all over the place, it's actually a desire to improve things for the people and not a thirst for power. She just knows she needs power to realise her vision. I think Jon and Tyrion would gel well with her vision: Her idealism and compassion, Jon's fairness and sense of duty, Tyrion's realism and strategic ability. It would be a good mix, they would compliment each other and temper the flaws of the others. Ah cool, the popular theory is that Tyrion is actually a Targaryen with people giving a ton of hints in regards to Tywin constantly saying that Tyrion isn't his son and such. Tyrion then being able to confront for dragons fortified that theory. For me, I never read the books so I'm wide open to theories. But given the way the show is going this seems to be highly possible. As far as I remember there are supposed to be 3 dragon riders. Danys, Jon, and Tyrion seem the most logical. |
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