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Post by charzhino on Dec 12, 2018 13:48:51 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Dec 12, 2018 17:03:21 GMT
No Phoenix metaphors, Simon? He's a better man than me.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 18:04:55 GMT
Keep dreaming. The deal is scheduled to be completed by the first half of next year, likely before Dark Phoenix is even released to theaters. How many more Fox-Men movies do you think they can film in that amount of time? Maybe they should focus on completing New Mutants first. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being scrapped altogether.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 12, 2018 18:39:51 GMT
Keep dreaming. The deal is scheduled to be completed by the first half of next year, likely before Dark Phoenix is even released to theaters. How many more Fox-Men movies do you think they can film in that amount of time? Maybe they should focus on completing New Mutants first. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being scrapped altogether. Simon Kinberg has spoken with Kevin Feige. I made a topic about it a few days ago. So there is good chance he would know more about the future of franchise than you.
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Post by charzhino on Dec 12, 2018 18:53:09 GMT
Keep dreaming. The deal is scheduled to be completed by the first half of next year, likely before Dark Phoenix is even released to theaters. How many more Fox-Men movies do you think they can film in that amount of time? Maybe they should focus on completing New Mutants first. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being scrapped altogether. New mutants is coming out next August. And the Fox Disney deal isnt simple as signing 1 piece of paper. It could be easily 2023/2024 before Disney have fully acquired Fox legally, integrated and absorbed all assets and in pre production phase for MCU Xmen movies. In that scenario that leaves 4-5 years for more Fox based properties to be filmed like Xforce, Gambit, Kitty Pryde, Multiple Man and more mainline Xmen films. Sorry Disney fans u better hope Captain Marvel can carry your franchise until the Fox deal is fully complete
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 18:55:34 GMT
Keep dreaming. The deal is scheduled to be completed by the first half of next year, likely before Dark Phoenix is even released to theaters. How many more Fox-Men movies do you think they can film in that amount of time? Maybe they should focus on completing New Mutants first. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being scrapped altogether. Simon Kinberg has spoken with Kevin Feige. I made a topic about it a few days ago. So there is good chance he would know more about the future of franchise than you. All it says is that Feige reviewed the script and tone for Dark Phoenix. Nothing more than a professional courtesy considering these characters will be changing hands soon and he wants to keep things civil until then and ensure that no damage is being done that can't be undone. Once the deal is finalized, everything that came before will most likely be tossed and given a badly needed fresh reboot.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 12, 2018 19:04:58 GMT
Simon Kinberg has spoken with Kevin Feige. I made a topic about it a few days ago. So there is good chance he would know more about the future of franchise than you. All it says is that Feige reviewed the script and tone for Dark Phoenix. Nothing more than a professional courtesy considering these characters will be changing hands soon and he wants to keep things civil until then and ensure that no damage is being done that can't be undone. Once the deal is finalized, everything that came before will most likely be tossed and given a badly needed fresh reboot. That had nothing to do with the deal. He reviewed the Amazing Spider-Man 2, remember? He cares about how all Marvel films turn out. Point is Kinberg has Feige’s number, you don’t.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 19:05:38 GMT
Keep dreaming. The deal is scheduled to be completed by the first half of next year, likely before Dark Phoenix is even released to theaters. How many more Fox-Men movies do you think they can film in that amount of time? Maybe they should focus on completing New Mutants first. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being scrapped altogether. New mutants is coming out next August. And the Fox Disney deal isnt simple as signing 1 piece of paper. It could be easily 2023/2024 before Disney have fully acquired Fox legally, integrated and absorbed all assets and in pre production phase for MCU Xmen movies. In that scenario that leaves 4-5 years for more Fox based properties to be filmed like Xforce, Gambit, Kitty Pryde, Multiple Man and more mainline Xmen films. Sorry Disney fans u better hope Captain Marvel can carry your franchise until the Fox deal is fully complete New Mutants won't make that release date considering the major overhaul it needs and you're living in a fantasy world if you think any of those other films will ever see the light of day under Fox. It may be that long before we see an MCU X-Men film on-screen, but the deal itself will be finalized much sooner than that. Why bring Captain Marvel into this? Try to stay on topic.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 19:15:51 GMT
All it says is that Feige reviewed the script and tone for Dark Phoenix. Nothing more than a professional courtesy considering these characters will be changing hands soon and he wants to keep things civil until then and ensure that no damage is being done that can't be undone. Once the deal is finalized, everything that came before will most likely be tossed and given a badly needed fresh reboot. That had nothing to do with the deal. He reviewed the Amazing Spider-Man 2, remember? He cares about how all Marvel films turn out. Point is Kinberg has Feige’s number, you don’t. Yes, he has Feige's number just like Mark Webb probably had his number and we all know what happened there.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 12, 2018 19:26:44 GMT
That had nothing to do with the deal. He reviewed the Amazing Spider-Man 2, remember? He cares about how all Marvel films turn out. Point is Kinberg has Feige’s number, you don’t. Yes, he has Feige's number just like Mark Webb probably had his number and we all know what happened there. Probably. But Feige hired X2 and X3 writer Zak Penn to work on two MCU projects.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 19:34:37 GMT
Yes, he has Feige's number just like Mark Webb probably had his number and we all know what happened there. Probably. But Feige hired X2 and X3 writer Zak Penn to work on two MCU projects. What does that have to do with the Fox-Disney deal and the future of Fox produced X-Men films?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 12, 2018 19:55:24 GMT
Probably. But Feige hired X2 and X3 writer Zak Penn to work on two MCU projects. What does that have to do with the Fox-Disney deal and the future of Fox produced X-Men films? I assume you were talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming. But if you think Feige was the one that ended the Amazing Spider-Man series then...I didn’t think you were that misinformed. Sony is the one that holds all the cards in regards to Spider-Man. Did you think Venom and Edge of Spider-Verse were by Marvel Studios? Sony ended the Amazing series. Why do you think many people are speculating that Spider-Man might be pulled out of the MCU after Venom’s success?
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Post by charzhino on Dec 12, 2018 20:06:43 GMT
New mutants is coming out next August. And the Fox Disney deal isnt simple as signing 1 piece of paper. It could be easily 2023/2024 before Disney have fully acquired Fox legally, integrated and absorbed all assets and in pre production phase for MCU Xmen movies. In that scenario that leaves 4-5 years for more Fox based properties to be filmed like Xforce, Gambit, Kitty Pryde, Multiple Man and more mainline Xmen films. Sorry Disney fans u better hope Captain Marvel can carry your franchise until the Fox deal is fully complete New Mutants won't make that release date considering the major overhaul it needs and you're living in a fantasy world if you think any of those other films will ever see the light of day under Fox. It may be that long before we see an MCU X-Men film on-screen, but the deal itself will be finalized much sooner than that. Why bring Captain Marvel into this? Try to stay on topic. Conjecture. Unless Kinberg thinks fans are stupid he wouldnt be making those comments
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 20:22:18 GMT
What does that have to do with the Fox-Disney deal and the future of Fox produced X-Men films? I assume you were talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming. But if you think Feige was the one that ended the Amazing Spider-Man series then...I didn’t think you were that misinformed. Sony is the one that holds all the cards in regards to Spider-Man. Did you think Venom and Edge of Spider-Verse were by Marvel Studios? Sony ended the Amazing series. Why do you think many people are speculating that Spider-Man might be pulled out of the MCU after Venom’s success? I understand the history and that Sony holds control over Spider-Man, with a limited agreement with Marvel Studios. Yes, I was talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming, since he was the director for the Amazing Spider-Man films, much like Kinberg is the director for Dark Phoenix. My point is, things change when control (creative or otherwise) changes hands. It happened with Spider-Man (temporarily at least and through mutual agreement) and it will happen with X-Men once the deal is finalized and Feige has complete control to give these characters a fresh start.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 20:24:09 GMT
New Mutants won't make that release date considering the major overhaul it needs and you're living in a fantasy world if you think any of those other films will ever see the light of day under Fox. It may be that long before we see an MCU X-Men film on-screen, but the deal itself will be finalized much sooner than that. Why bring Captain Marvel into this? Try to stay on topic. Conjecture. Unless Kinberg thinks fans are stupid he wouldnt be making those comments Considering what they've been giving us for X-Men films (Deadpool and Logan aside), yes I think he assumes we're all stupid.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 12, 2018 22:04:11 GMT
I assume you were talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming. But if you think Feige was the one that ended the Amazing Spider-Man series then...I didn’t think you were that misinformed. Sony is the one that holds all the cards in regards to Spider-Man. Did you think Venom and Edge of Spider-Verse were by Marvel Studios? Sony ended the Amazing series. Why do you think many people are speculating that Spider-Man might be pulled out of the MCU after Venom’s success? I understand the history and that Sony holds control over Spider-Man, with a limited agreement with Marvel Studios. Yes, I was talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming, since he was the director for the Amazing Spider-Man films, much like Kinberg is the director for Dark Phoenix. My point is, things change when control (creative or otherwise) changes hands. It happened with Spider-Man (temporarily at least and through mutual agreement) and it will happen with X-Men once the deal is finalized and Feige has complete control to give these characters a fresh start. Feige was not a fan of Amazing Spider-Man 2 judging from his review of it. So it makes sense that he wouldn’t hire Webb. He would have hired him if he liked the movie as shown by him hiring Zak Penn because he thinks X2 is great.
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Post by bud47 on Dec 12, 2018 22:51:45 GMT
I understand the history and that Sony holds control over Spider-Man, with a limited agreement with Marvel Studios. Yes, I was talking about Feige not having Webb work on Homecoming, since he was the director for the Amazing Spider-Man films, much like Kinberg is the director for Dark Phoenix. My point is, things change when control (creative or otherwise) changes hands. It happened with Spider-Man (temporarily at least and through mutual agreement) and it will happen with X-Men once the deal is finalized and Feige has complete control to give these characters a fresh start. Feige was not a fan of Amazing Spider-Man 2 judging from his review of it. So it makes sense that he wouldn’t hire Webb. He would have hired him if he liked the movie as shown by him hiring Zak Penn because he thinks X2 is great. Not quite the same situation. There was no transition of character rights or change in creative control involved. Penn was just a writer that Feige was a fan of that was brought over to write for a couple of films. A lot of the problems with Amazing Spider-Man 2 came down to Avi Arad and studio interference. At least Webb had one critically acclaimed film under his belt. Feige could have brought him over, but instead he wanted to start fresh with Spider-Man and not carry over any baggage from past films, just like I imagine he'll want to do with X-Men.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 13, 2018 0:20:50 GMT
I think they might want to wait and see how well this movie does first. They don't exactly have a stellar track record as far as this new cast of characters are concerned. DCEU movies may not be doing so well on average but at least it seems like they're aware of their mistakes and are trying to correct for them. I see no such self-awareness on Fox's side. Fox seems to be making these movies for the simple sake of making movies.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 13, 2018 0:54:51 GMT
I think they might want to wait and see how well this movie does first. They don't exactly have a stellar track record as far as this new cast of characters are concerned. DCEU movies may not be doing so well on average but at least it seems like they're aware of their mistakes and are trying to correct for them. I see no such self-awareness on Fox's side. Fox seems to be making these movies for the simple sake of making movies. One of their latest films was nominated for a screenplay Oscar though.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 13, 2018 1:02:14 GMT
I think they might want to wait and see how well this movie does first. They don't exactly have a stellar track record as far as this new cast of characters are concerned. DCEU movies may not be doing so well on average but at least it seems like they're aware of their mistakes and are trying to correct for them. I see no such self-awareness on Fox's side. Fox seems to be making these movies for the simple sake of making movies. One of their latest films was nominated for a screenplay Oscar though. Yes, Logan. Unfortunately, it seems they are unable reproduce the same success in any of their X-men movies without Wolverine.
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