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Thanos
Feb 21, 2017 22:46:10 GMT
Post by Jerk on Feb 21, 2017 22:46:10 GMT
The MCU movies are nothing more than just popcorn flicks like Fox's X-Men. Don't take things so seriously. No they're pretty well written actually. It's not even a debate. For the most part the MCU films are well written. But it is up for debate. Everything is up for debate because not everyone agrees. And each individual has their own view point. I've seen you saw that in other posts. Why enter any discussion if you're not interested in the views of others even if they don't agree with you? No one is always right especially when it comes to liking story or art.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 2:31:06 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 2:31:06 GMT
I doubt Red Skull and Ultron are dead. Red Skull was most likely teleported somewhere else. As for Ultron, if you know anything about Ultron from the comics, then you'll know that he only comes back stronger and stronger each time he gets defeated. That's Ultron's gimmick. What probably happened to Ultron in the MCU was that Vision decided to keep Ultron locked up somewhere. Which makes sense, because you can't kill an artificial intelligence. Once Thanos kills Vision in Infinity War, Ultron will probably be free once again and will create a new body made out of vibranium this time. Making him even more dangerous than before. You are free to doubt it all you like, until it changes on the big screen, they are dead. Not to mention, even if you discount them, most of their villains have still died. You maybe right. However, Red Skull and Ultron's fates are vague. You never see them get killed on-screen. Also, yes. Most of the MCU villains are dead. But The Mandarin, Leader, Ulysses Klaw, Baron Mordo, and Dormammu are still out there.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 5:42:11 GMT
Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 22, 2017 5:42:11 GMT
I honestly don't know what to take of this response. I gave my opinion yet you didn't read past the first sentence because I slightly disagreed with you? FFS can this be different from IMDB?! I love the MCU movies. But I won't deny that they have had some that I didn't like. A few I'd say would be Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Cap 1, and anything Hulk (sorry I just don't care for the character that much) They have some decent villains. I highly enjoyed Zemo. While you can make pokes here and there it didn't matter to me because you felt his pain. For me, he's the closest thing to come close to a Loki. Everything has been fine. This placing Loki on a pedestal thing and claiming everybody else is less because he was great is absurd to the highest degree. It's like trying to explain physics to a second grader, and if you don't understand why that's ridiculous then there isn't a productive conversation to be had out of it. If you want to mope about the villains go do it, but they've been well portrayed. PS I didn't read past the first sentence of this post either.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 5:45:49 GMT
Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 22, 2017 5:45:49 GMT
The MCU has it's cons as well. Not really. It's been pretty much exactly what it needed to be at every point. Making silly statements like "it's not perfect" is the most eye rolling conversation possible, but have fun with it if that's you're thing.
I'm not joking when I say this, but the MCU is the most well crafted film series ever, and it's not close at this point. 14 films and only getting better. If that is somehow a problem for you, the problem is you.
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Feb 22, 2017 5:48:59 GMT
Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 22, 2017 5:48:59 GMT
For the most part the MCU films are well written. But it is up for debate. Everything is up for debate because not everyone agrees. And each individual has their own view point. I've seen you saw that in other posts. Why enter any discussion if you're not interested in the views of others even if they don't agree with you? No one is always right especially when it comes to liking story or art. I'm interested in the productive views of others. People who want to sit around and nit pick something that as well crafted as the entirety of the MCU just for the sake of nit picking it can go eat a dick. I seriously have no interest in that conversation.
The MCU is the greatest film achievement of all time, and I'm not joking. 14 films in, only getting better, and having had the guts, the patience, and the craft to nail virtually ever step along the way. It has been brilliant.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 7:38:21 GMT
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Post by Jerk on Feb 22, 2017 7:38:21 GMT
For the most part the MCU films are well written. But it is up for debate. Everything is up for debate because not everyone agrees. And each individual has their own view point. I've seen you saw that in other posts. Why enter any discussion if you're not interested in the views of others even if they don't agree with you? No one is always right especially when it comes to liking story or art. I'm interested in the productive views of others. People who want to sit around and nit pick something that as well crafted as the entirety of the MCU just for the sake of nit picking it can go eat a dick. I seriously have no interest in that conversation.
The MCU is the greatest film achievement of all time, and I'm not joking. 14 films in, only getting better, and having had the guts, the patience, and the craft to nail virtually ever step along the way. It has been brilliant.
I love the MCU but it is not the greatest film achievment of all time. Maybe franchise, but thats just you opinion either way. Not a stone cold fact that everyone must agree with. And cinema is not just about franchise or superheroes and villains. Its so much more. And its not nit picking if someone actually doesnt enjoy the story or the writing or certain characterisation. Not accepting the opinions of others is about the most closed minded thing anyone can do. You dont have to agree with them but doesnt mean they are not entitled to them.
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Feb 22, 2017 8:21:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 8:21:49 GMT
I honestly don't know what to take of this response. I gave my opinion yet you didn't read past the first sentence because I slightly disagreed with you? FFS can this be different from IMDB?! I love the MCU movies. But I won't deny that they have had some that I didn't like. A few I'd say would be Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Cap 1, and anything Hulk (sorry I just don't care for the character that much) They have some decent villains. I highly enjoyed Zemo. While you can make pokes here and there it didn't matter to me because you felt his pain. For me, he's the closest thing to come close to a Loki. Everything has been fine. This placing Loki on a pedestal and claiming everybody else is less because he was great is absurd to the highest degree. It's like trying to explain physics to a second grader if you don't understand why that's ridiculous and there isn't a productive conversation to be had out of it. If you want to mope about the villains go do it, but they've been well portrayed. PS I didn't read past the first sentence of this post either. ๐
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Feb 22, 2017 11:08:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 11:08:29 GMT
The MCU has it's cons as well. Not really. It's been pretty much exactly what it needed to be at every point. Making silly statements like "it's not perfect" is the most eye rolling conversation possible, but have fun with it if that's you're thing.
I'm not joking when I say this, but the MCU is the most well crafted film series ever, and it's not close at this point. 14 films and only getting better. If that is somehow a problem for you, the problem is you.
Then you need to watch more films if you think they are that perfect. Besides, after your comments on X-Men, I can't take you seriously. X-Men: Days of Future Past alone is better than most MCU movies.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 13:39:47 GMT
Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 22, 2017 13:39:47 GMT
I love the MCU but it is not the greatest film achievment of all time. Maybe franchise, but thats just you opinion either way. Not a stone cold fact that everyone must agree with. And cinema is not just about franchise or superheroes and villains. Its so much more. And its not nit picking if someone actually doesnt enjoy the story or the writing or certain characterisation. Not accepting the opinions of others is about the most closed minded thing anyone can do. You dont have to agree with them but doesnt mean they are not entitled to them. I would argue it is. Even films as great as the Godfather didn't make it to the third film without grumblings, and yet here is a series 14 films in that shows no signs of waning and has become must viewing for virtually all demographics. Step back and think about it, and what film achievement is greater than that?
Complaining about the MCU is nitpicking. It's obviously well done. It's not that I don't agree with them, or that I'm being closed minded, it's that it's simply whiney bullshit. The end. This is a pointless conversation and I'm not one of these people that sits around on message boards saying nothing, so ta ta.
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Thanos
Feb 22, 2017 13:44:07 GMT
Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 22, 2017 13:44:07 GMT
Then you need to watch more films if you think they are that perfect. Besides, after your comments on X-Men, I can't take you seriously. X-Men: Days of Future Past alone is better than most MCU movies. I said they've done exactly what they set out to do, and what they needed to at virtually every turn. Finding one film here or there that you claim is better than most of the films doesn't change that. And you can stop throwing around the word perfect. It means absolutely nothing.
It is absolutely undeniable that they began the MCU with a clear vision, and they have plotted a course, taking small steps at first, and growing in scale while branching out, and nailing every step they took. To sit there and say meaningless statements like "they aren't perfect" about a brand who has taken the responsibility all on their own and nailed longshot concepts like Guardians and Ant-Man while establishing Thor and Cap in the first place, is laughably ridiculous.
There is no more conversation to be had with a person who is going to be that absurd.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:07:32 GMT
Post by kuatorises on Feb 22, 2017 16:07:32 GMT
You are free to doubt it all you like, until it changes on the big screen, they are dead. Not to mention, even if you discount them, most of their villains have still died. You maybe right. However, Red Skull and Ultron's fates are vague. You never see them get killed on-screen. Also, yes. Most of the MCU villains are dead. But The Mandarin, Leader, Ulysses Klaw, Baron Mordo, and Dormammu are still out there. I do think it is very likely that Ultron could return, because like you said he never truly dies. I would be surprised if any of the Hulk villains showed up. That movie is just so disconnected from the MCU. I would love to see Dormammu again.
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Thanos
Apr 6, 2019 5:06:54 GMT
Post by darkpast on Apr 6, 2019 5:06:54 GMT
So let's talk about the MCU's upcoming big bad. What do you think of the casting of Brolin and how he might portray the character? Will Marvel give us a better villain than Loki? Will Thanos be another pile of purple poop?
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Thanos
Apr 6, 2019 5:20:02 GMT
Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 6, 2019 5:20:02 GMT
So let's talk about the MCU's upcoming big bad. What do you think of the casting of Brolin and how he might portray the character? Will Marvel give us a better villain than Loki? Will Thanos be another pile of purple poop? ๐ฅถ
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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2019 12:46:51 GMT
Good times! Ainโt we lucky we got em? Good times!
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 6, 2019 12:57:23 GMT
Good times! Ainโt we lucky we got em? Good times! Loved that show and the painting at the end of the credits. For reference it was former San Diego Chargers Ernie Barnes "Sugar Shack"
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