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Post by hi224 on Dec 23, 2018 20:43:09 GMT
has to be my favorite movie of the year.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Dec 26, 2018 11:26:56 GMT
Just saw it, would probably be my #4 for the year. A few minor quibbles, but very good overall, loved the ending. Strangely reminded me a little of a Peter Greenaway film on some level.
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Post by hi224 on Dec 28, 2018 20:23:41 GMT
Just saw it, would probably be my #4 for the year. A few minor quibbles, but very good overall, loved the ending. Strangely reminded me a little of a Peter Greenaway film on some level. Same as if someone through Greenaway and Kubrick in a blender with dashes of Von Trier.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Dec 29, 2018 13:57:32 GMT
Just saw it, would probably be my #4 for the year. A few minor quibbles, but very good overall, loved the ending. Strangely reminded me a little of a Peter Greenaway film on some level. Same as if someone through Greenaway and Kubrick in a blender with dashes of Von Trier. Sounds about right, a heady mix. I think The Favourite is possibly his least overtly Kubrickian of the few I've seen.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 8, 2019 9:17:28 GMT
I deem The Favourite to be "good." The movie is visually remarkable—it definitely should receive an Oscar nomination for Best Cinematography, and Robbie Ryan may well deserve that statuette. The mise-en-scène is amazing, especially in the queen's bedroom with that collage of paintings, and the lighting scheme is also transfixing, with that opaque, seemingly natural, light contrasting with the dark colors of the clothes and the walls—blacks and navy blues in particular. And then during the nighttime scenes, The Favourite relies on candlelight to again create sharp and riveting contrasts. The film also appears to employ a curved lens at times to create a distorted look to certain low-angle shots (which heighten the sense of tall walls and high ceilings), and that sense of distortion and weirdness certainly fits the movie's content.
The Favourite is a black comedy or farce—essentially a satire—and it is quite clever and amusing. But I found the amusement to be more intellectual than visceral—curious more than funny and intriguing more than mesmerizing. At two hours in length, the film feels longer. And although the humor is more intellectual than visceral, it is essentially idle—The Favourite offers a very unexpected interpretation of a royal British period piece, but it is not exactly substantive. I would compare it to a black comedy from a year ago, Phantom Thread, except that that black comedy proved more purposeful. However, The Favourite is a better film, primarily because it is far less pretentious and, despite its stylized nature, it functions more organically. To his credit, director Yargos Lanthimos maintains a consistent tone—which could have been difficult given the macabre material—and all the actresses and actors are on the same page. They never descend into a Mel Brooks-type spoof, but nor do they mistake the writing for genuine melodrama. Rather, they all manage to maintain a tone of barely plausible realism.
Visually, The Favourite is probably the most memorable movie of the year. I would not quite rank it among the best, but it is impressive and I will see it a second time.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 8, 2019 9:30:47 GMT
Just saw it, would probably be my #4 for the year. A few minor quibbles, but very good overall, loved the ending. Strangely reminded me a little of a Peter Greenaway film on some level. Same as if someone through Greenaway and Kubrick in a blender with dashes of Von Trier. ... good connections, except that The Favourite is probably less pretentious than Greenaway and most of Kubrick. One might also draw a very loose connection to The Beguiled (the original from 1971, directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood, not the repugnant remake from 2017 directed by Sofia Coppola). That film is far more serious and profound, but one might find a similar sense of Gothic distortion, perversion, and metaphor. synopsis by Dave Kehr
Exploring the obsessive nature of Don Siegel and Clint Eastwood's "The Beguiled"
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 9, 2019 8:55:00 GMT
I just viewed The Favourite again; my assessment is essentially the same, but I would upgrade my view of it slightly to "good/very good." I like the coda a little more—it is more sophisticated and clever than I thought at first.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 11, 2019 21:44:00 GMT
I like the subversion of male female roles as wellm
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Post by louise on Jan 12, 2019 5:57:19 GMT
i hated it. Full of stupid and unpleasant scenes, and the historical naccuracies irritated me - Abigal Hill for instance was only thirteen when Sarah Churchill took her into her household, she had been with Sarah for years before she began to serve Queen Anne. SArah is portrayed as the victim of Abigail's machinations, when in fact it was her own foul temper and domineering ways that eventually put the Queen off her. QUeen Anne's husband George, to whom she was devoted, is completely eliminated, although the man Abigail married was one of his servants. the Queen herself is portrayed as a bumbling fool although she was not - it goes without saying that her fervent devotion to the Angliacan church doesn't get a mention. probably the nastiest of the gratuitously unpleasant scenes is iwhen Abigail squashes the rabbit. ALtogether I loathed the whole thing. THere is nothing even faintly amusing about it, no comedy black or otherwise.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 12, 2019 14:13:03 GMT
i hated it. Full of stupid and unpleasant scenes, and the historical naccuracies irritated me - Abigal Hill for instance was only thirteen when Sarah Churchill took her into her household, she had been with Sarah for years before she began to serve Queen Anne. SArah is portrayed as the victim of Abigail's machinations, when in fact it was her own foul temper and domineering ways that eventually put the Queen off her. QUeen Anne's husband George, to whom she was devoted, is completely eliminated, although the man Abigail married was one of his servants. the Queen herself is portrayed as a bumbling fool although she was not - it goes without saying that her fervent devotion to the Angliacan church doesn't get a mention. probably the nastiest of the gratuitously unpleasant scenes is iwhen Abigail squashes the rabbit. ALtogether I loathed the whole thing. THere is nothing even faintly amusing about it, no comedy black or otherwise. I mean the movie intentionally plays with history to create a more interesting story. It isnt supposed to be a true to life biopic at all.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 13, 2019 8:00:15 GMT
I like the subversion of male female roles as wellm ... yes, very good point. To quote New Yorker critic Anthony Lane:
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 13, 2019 8:03:55 GMT
i hated it. Full of stupid and unpleasant scenes, and the historical naccuracies irritated me - Abigal Hill for instance was only thirteen when Sarah Churchill took her into her household, she had been with Sarah for years before she began to serve Queen Anne. SArah is portrayed as the victim of Abigail's machinations, when in fact it was her own foul temper and domineering ways that eventually put the Queen off her. QUeen Anne's husband George, to whom she was devoted, is completely eliminated, although the man Abigail married was one of his servants. the Queen herself is portrayed as a bumbling fool although she was not - it goes without saying that her fervent devotion to the Angliacan church doesn't get a mention. probably the nastiest of the gratuitously unpleasant scenes is iwhen Abigail squashes the rabbit. ALtogether I loathed the whole thing. THere is nothing even faintly amusing about it, no comedy black or otherwise. Within the film's satirical and macabre context, though, I would not call that scene "gratuitous." It symbolizes Abigail's emergent lust for power and authority—even over the queen—and the final scene offers a fairly chilling retort to that ambition.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 13, 2019 8:13:24 GMT
I viewed The Favourite for a third time on Thursday. Again, I consider the film "good/very good" and truly remarkable visually. As I wrote earlier, it must at least receive a nomination for Best Cinematography.
Sarah's departing words to Queen Anne about what constitutes true love are quite affecting and profound. If the film could have consistently braided that kind of emotional depth with its satirical thrusts, it would have proved even better. But that task would have been difficult, and I would still rank The Favourite among the better feature film releases of 2018 (one of the top fifteen or so).
Seeing the film for a third time also allowed me to absorb more of the cleverly raunchy dialogue.
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Post by louise on Jan 16, 2019 17:28:57 GMT
i hated it. Full of stupid and unpleasant scenes, and the historical naccuracies irritated me - Abigal Hill for instance was only thirteen when Sarah Churchill took her into her household, she had been with Sarah for years before she began to serve Queen Anne. SArah is portrayed as the victim of Abigail's machinations, when in fact it was her own foul temper and domineering ways that eventually put the Queen off her. QUeen Anne's husband George, to whom she was devoted, is completely eliminated, although the man Abigail married was one of his servants. the Queen herself is portrayed as a bumbling fool although she was not - it goes without saying that her fervent devotion to the Angliacan church doesn't get a mention. probably the nastiest of the gratuitously unpleasant scenes is iwhen Abigail squashes the rabbit. ALtogether I loathed the whole thing. THere is nothing even faintly amusing about it, no comedy black or otherwise. I mean the movie intentionally plays with history to create a more interesting story. It isnt supposed to be a true to life biopic at all. I think the historical story is more interesting.
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Post by Nora on Jan 16, 2019 18:41:21 GMT
I viewed The Favourite for a third time on Thursday. Again, I consider the film "good/very good" and truly remarkable visually. As I wrote earlier, it must at least receive a nomination for Best Cinematography. Sarah's departing words to Queen Anne about what constitutes true love are quite affecting and profound. If the film could have consistently braided that kind of emotional depth with its satirical thrusts, it would have proved even better. But that task would have been difficult, and I would still rank The Favourite among the better feature film releases of 2018 (one of the top fifteen or so). Seeing the film for a third time also allowed me to absorb more of the cleverly raunchy dialogue. remind me please what were Sarahs departing words?
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 17, 2019 7:08:36 GMT
I viewed The Favourite for a third time on Thursday. Again, I consider the film "good/very good" and truly remarkable visually. As I wrote earlier, it must at least receive a nomination for Best Cinematography. Sarah's departing words to Queen Anne about what constitutes true love are quite affecting and profound. If the film could have consistently braided that kind of emotional depth with its satirical thrusts, it would have proved even better. But that task would have been difficult, and I would still rank The Favourite among the better feature film releases of 2018 (one of the top fifteen or so). Seeing the film for a third time also allowed me to absorb more of the cleverly raunchy dialogue. remind me please what were Sarahs departing words? ... something like, "If you look like a badger, Abigail will call you an angel. I will call you a badger. I will not lie to you. That is true love."
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Post by kevin on Jan 17, 2019 13:06:26 GMT
One of my favorite movies of the year. This is a hilarious, thrilling, shocking and depressing look at power and love. What a movie! The more I think about it the better it gets. And the acting performances are off the charts. Olivia Colman's performance is a marvel to behold.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 18, 2019 20:07:46 GMT
One of my favorite movies of the year. This is a hilarious, thrilling, shocking and depressing look at power and love. What a movie! The more I think about it the better it gets. And the acting performances are off the charts. Olivia Colman's performance is a marvel to behold. each performance gets better and better as each character experiences a form of progression.
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Post by Nora on Jan 18, 2019 20:23:23 GMT
One of my favorite movies of the year. This is a hilarious, thrilling, shocking and depressing look at power and love. What a movie! The more I think about it the better it gets. And the acting performances are off the charts. Olivia Colman's performance is a marvel to behold. agreed. i really hopes she wins an oscar for it. its a bit otherwordly acting. i have no idea how they do it actors. the amount of vulnerability and emotional investment they have to be able to display and committ is crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 0:52:23 GMT
I want to see it. The "look at me" scene is one of the funniest things. I was laughing so hard.
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