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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jan 13, 2019 17:31:23 GMT
I rejected this film as soon as I saw it due to it's awful non-canon status, beautifully outlined here:- cinekatz.com/2016/12/25/rogue-one-is-not-canon/However, I will say that from what I remember it was a well enough made modern blockbuster film. What I find weird though is that it seems a lot of fans seem to love this film, e.g. calling it the "Empire" of the Disney series, whilst hating the TLJ for disrespecting the established canon (which I'd also say is true). This I cannot understand. It can't even be due to treatment of well loved established characters - In Rogue One Darth Vader is shown as a lowbrow thug henchman scything through the common footsoldiers with his lightsaber, yet supposedly it's the same guy we see shortly afterwards in ANH leaving the dirty work to his troops before imperiously marching in afterwards! Surely that's no worse than the character assassination (which, again don't me wrong, I agree that's what it was) that Luke suffered in TLJ?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 13, 2019 17:48:13 GMT
Nuance is the difference. The difference is quality.
As for Vader. I'm not a big fan of the Vader scene. But there is no conflict.
In ANH he might have chosen not to repeat the personal gangway massacre, but he was still lowbrow henchmen enough to jump into his personal Tie Fighter and dogfight it out with the rebels - apart from him strangling and torturing them personally which is the prime qualification of lowbrow thug henchman.
Vader was different in every OT movie BTW: - in ANH the traitorous henchman chasing and fighting personally and bickering with peers. - In Empire the demonic leader who wants to destroy the Emperor and rule the galaxy. - In Jedi suddenly the conflicted sinner who "must serve" his master and protects him. The OT is a mess in terms of consistent character writing.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 6, 2019 15:54:44 GMT
I rejected this film as soon as I saw it due to it's awful non-canon status... Well, it is canon.
But the reason why I think its more acceptable than TLJ is that it doesn't ruin anything we have preconceived notions about; and it was never meant to answer any questions set-up by a previous movie. We already knew the mission succeeded, we just didn't know how, and now we know.
But TLJ was full of possibility. And it was squandered. it ruins our hopes for Luke, and it doesn't answer any questions set up by TFA.
That's all.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Feb 6, 2019 19:48:57 GMT
What mission?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 6, 2019 19:52:56 GMT
None of the Disney crap counts.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 7, 2019 0:47:08 GMT
I honestly couldn’t care less about what counts as “canon” and what doesn’t, and I wasn’t a huge fan of Rogue One, but I did find it the [relative] best of the sequels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 19:11:46 GMT
It treats Mon Calamari much better
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Feb 7, 2019 21:07:27 GMT
It treats Mon Calamari much better Ha ha, that is certainly true! But as I've said before they missed what could have been an all time great Star Wars moment with a fleet wide communication of "Admiral Raddus is dead. This is Captain Ackbar assuming command."
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