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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 22:40:20 GMT
So why not set the natural laws up so that murder is also impossible? According to you this wouldn’t violate free will, right? Good luck googling the answer to that one... Google can't help you make any sense. It's somewhat amusing to watch you squirm when you can't work out an answer. If there is an omnipotent god, then the only reason there can possibly be for murder to exist is that god wants it to exist. That is a statement of fact, not a question, so you don't need to panic.
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Post by heeeeey on Jan 16, 2019 15:21:21 GMT
Google can't help you make any sense.
It's somewhat amusing to watch you squirm when you can't work out an answer.
If there is an omnipotent god, then the only reason there can possibly be for murder to exist is that god wants it to exist. That is a statement of fact, not a question, so you don't need to panic. Hilarious that your unenlightened ass would believe you even have that capability. If I don't answer it's because I don't believe you're even capable of comprehending the answer.
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Post by Isapop on Jan 16, 2019 16:07:11 GMT
It's somewhat amusing to watch you squirm when you can't work out an answer.
If there is an omnipotent god, then the only reason there can possibly be for murder to exist is that god wants it to exist. That is a statement of fact, not a question, so you don't need to panic. If I don't answer it's because I don't believe you're even capable of comprehending the answer. That's also why you said you wouldn't answer my question, too ("Why does God allow the innocent to suffer from the evil choice someone else makes?") Tell you what. How about answering even though we can't comprehend the answers. Then I'll show your answers to somebody who's a lot smarter than I am, and ask her to explain it to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 17:46:13 GMT
It's somewhat amusing to watch you squirm when you can't work out an answer.
If there is an omnipotent god, then the only reason there can possibly be for murder to exist is that god wants it to exist. That is a statement of fact, not a question, so you don't need to panic. Hilarious that your unenlightened ass would believe you even have that capability. If I don't answer it's because I don't believe you're even capable of comprehending the answer. I love that you expect anybody to believe that, let alone me.
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Post by Catman on Jan 16, 2019 18:00:09 GMT
So it's not lagomorphs?
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jan 16, 2019 18:11:49 GMT
If you are going to bestow free will upon people, you have to provide them with every choice imaginable, from the very lowest to the very highest. Who is "you"? Who made this rule? Is this just an assertion that we're supposed to take at face value without supporting documentation?
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Post by Isapop on Jan 16, 2019 18:22:02 GMT
If you are going to bestow free will upon people, you have to provide them with every choice imaginable, from the very lowest to the very highest. Who is "you"? Who made this rule? That would be God. It's a reasonable supposition. Being provided with "every choice imaginable" supports the idea that our will is truly "free", as opposed to limiting our choices which makes our will something less than free.
(I hope Heeeyyy approves of my answer. Maybe she'll think I'm smart enough to talk to.)
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Post by general313 on Jan 16, 2019 19:54:05 GMT
It's fake lagomorphs. If there were only true lagomorphs we wouldn't be having all these problems.
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Post by goz on Jan 18, 2019 7:41:29 GMT
If I don't answer it's because I don't believe you're even capable of comprehending the answer. That's also why you said you wouldn't answer my question, too ("Why does God allow the innocent to suffer from the evil choice someone else makes?") Tell you what. How about answering even though we can't comprehend the answers. Then I'll show your answers to somebody who's a lot smarter than I am, and ask her to explain it to me.
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Post by rizdek on Jan 18, 2019 19:32:01 GMT
I suppose it makes for an interesting social experiment. That's the best that can be said about it. Perhaps God isn't at all concerned with us or our feelings any more than we're concerned with the feelings of bacteria. It is hubris to imagine a god whose main focus happens to be humans. His purpose for creating the universe might be exploring what happens in black holes or how a given set of physical conditions play out over trillions of years.
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Post by rizdek on Jan 18, 2019 19:37:42 GMT
Oh, another question : suppose a murderer decides to murder a child. The murderer is removing the free will of the child through this act. You say god refuses to stop the murder, because he values free will. But it is the free will of the murderer that god is protecting. He's perfectly fine with the free will of the child being removed. So how much does god value free will, really? God is either unable to create a world without evil or he doesn't care enough to have done so.
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Post by general313 on Jan 18, 2019 19:43:41 GMT
I suppose it makes for an interesting social experiment. That's the best that can be said about it. Perhaps God isn't at all concerned with us or our feelings any more than we're concerned with the feelings of bacteria. It is hubris to imagine a god whose main focus happens to be humans. His purpose for creating the universe might be exploring what happens in black holes or how a given set of physical conditions play out over trillions of years. Maybe God hasn't even noticed us yet, and when he finally does he'll wipe us out so we don't contaminate his experiment, as we would clean up a moldy spot in the refrigerator with some Windex and a paper towel.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 18, 2019 20:17:23 GMT
Oh, another question : suppose a murderer decides to murder a child. The murderer is removing the free will of the child through this act. You say god refuses to stop the murder, because he values free will. But it is the free will of the murderer that god is protecting. He's perfectly fine with the free will of the child being removed. So how much does god value free will, really? God is either unable to create a world without evil or he doesn't care enough to have done so. The simple observation is that evil (of the natural sort at least) exists because God made it. We know that since the Bible tells us so: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." (KJV Isiah 45:9). That, presumably, would be why He looked on his handiwork and found it 'very good' and not perfect when done. Notably, the Bible then tells us elsewhere that, moreover, the Almighty takes pleasure in everything He has created. Some believers feel more comfortable by amending Isiah's 'evil' to 'misfortune' or 'calamity' etc, but that does not effect the overall disconcerting admission - which is often enough to bring on a severe case of special pleading.
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Post by goz on Jan 18, 2019 22:00:55 GMT
That's the best that can be said about it. Perhaps God isn't at all concerned with us or our feelings any more than we're concerned with the feelings of bacteria. It is hubris to imagine a god whose main focus happens to be humans. His purpose for creating the universe might be exploring what happens in black holes or how a given set of physical conditions play out over trillions of years. Maybe God hasn't even noticed us yet, and when he finally does he'll wipe us out so we don't contaminate his experiment, as we would clean up a moldy spot in the refrigerator with some Windex and a paper towel. You DO know that you can put Windex on zits, right?
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Post by general313 on Jan 19, 2019 0:25:15 GMT
Maybe God hasn't even noticed us yet, and when he finally does he'll wipe us out so we don't contaminate his experiment, as we would clean up a moldy spot in the refrigerator with some Windex and a paper towel. You DO know that you can put Windex on zits, right? LOL, no, never heard that! Windex doesn't stike me as a face friendly moisturizing cream substitute. Have you had first hand experience doing that?
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Post by goz on Jan 19, 2019 0:32:43 GMT
You DO know that you can put Windex on zits, right? LOL, no, never heard that! Windex doesn't stike me as a face friendly moisturizing cream substitute. Have you had first hand experience doing that? It is from 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' the movie.. from IMDB
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Post by Isapop on Jan 19, 2019 0:33:50 GMT
Maybe God hasn't even noticed us yet, and when he finally does he'll wipe us out so we don't contaminate his experiment, as we would clean up a moldy spot in the refrigerator with some Windex and a paper towel. You DO know that you can put Windex on zits, right? Easy-Off Foam works better.
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Post by general313 on Jan 19, 2019 0:34:56 GMT
LOL, no, never heard that! Windex doesn't stike me as a face friendly moisturizing cream substitute. Have you had first hand experience doing that? It is from 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' the movie.. from IMDB Ah, nice! I've seen the movie but forgot about the Windex.
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Post by Catman on Jan 19, 2019 0:59:59 GMT
Why does the caged bird sing?
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Post by goz on Jan 19, 2019 1:06:40 GMT
Why does the caged bird sing? 1. Begging for release. 2. Compulsive behaviour brought on by stress. 3.What else can I fucking do in here?
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