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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 16, 2019 16:56:11 GMT
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Jan 16, 2019 19:48:19 GMT
The cynic in me thinks that, at best, any and all characters will only be related to Venkman, Stantz, Spengler, Zeddemore, and Barrett. At minimum, if an all grown up Oscar is one of the main characters, I think I'm in.
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Post by cwsims on Jan 16, 2019 23:24:21 GMT
interesting
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Post by politicidal on Jan 17, 2019 0:44:40 GMT
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Post by femalefan on Jan 17, 2019 0:46:43 GMT
I will only watch if the original cast is in it. Just have Egon's child or Oscar join the group or Cgi in Ramis.
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Post by James on Jan 17, 2019 3:45:33 GMT
They waited too long.
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Post by egon1982 on Jan 17, 2019 6:25:03 GMT
Oh i will continue to defend part 2 as it had likable characters with charisma (one of my important movie loving factors is likable characters with charisma and all that), fun action sequences, great villain and all. Ballbusters (which is 2016's film as i'm not gonna call it Ghostbusters as it doesn't deserve that name as it's a name Ocpcommunications who is an excellent youtube film critic calls it because it shoots the logo in the dick) was not enjoyable to me and my pick for worst film of 2016 as me and one of my youtube friend whom we both have high standards i mentioned didn't pay a dime to see the movie in theaters but used free tickets and we suffered through it and we both gave it zero stars.
I am done with this franchise. Its time to give up the ghost on live-action film. Unless you are willing to do an animated film or something like that with the original voice cast of the original films. At least the ones still alive anyway. Or a new animated series for Netflix like Extreme Ghostbusters.
Until then, I really am not interested in seeing anymore GB movies. That being said if this happens I will eventually watch it when it comes to rent and hope against all hope that it will be good as I always do.
As i said it before and i'll say it again, I have come to the sobering reality that in essence the audiences going to movies today are to blame for the chain of unoriginality being unbroken. For the countless streams of sequels, reboots, and remakes.
We have only ourselves to blame for Hollywood studios greenlighting one sequel, reboot, prequel and remake after another. We made Michael Bay's 4th Transformer film a hit at the box office while the 5th film was a flop, goodness for that. We made Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle aka Welcome to the bunghole (in my view) so huge that now studios are trying to recapture that success with reboots/sequels, same for the Creed films and the new Halloween film which i disliked.
No. They are rolling in your cash. They have no reason to stop rehashing the same plotlines and using the same formula over and over again. And is that really what you want? You can't keep doing the same thing again, and again, and again, and keep expecting the same result. Eventually the returns are going to diminish and when they do? We have no one to blame but ourselves.
I see so many people talking about how hollywood is so unoriginal now, how it isn't what it used to be. "Why can't films be as good as they were in the 80's and 90's" and I say the same things trust me. But a lot of these people still pay to see the next focus group created blockbuster and stuff Disney's pockets with the next Star Wars film. If it has Star Wars on it? A good amount of people will compulsively buy a ticket like it's smack on a street corner. Luckily Solo bombed and i disliked that movie.
All this does is lead to Hollywood thinking you want more blockbusters not less. That you want more sequels, and reboots or remakes. Not less. That you want spin offs like a young han solo movie which i thought was mediocre and not as horrible as Last Jedi, yet luckily Solo bombed as i'm glad i didn't pay a ticket to see but wait until it comes to rent. And this ultimately leads to the franchises you love getting ridden into the fucking ground. And then tossed in the garbage heap until 10 or twenty years roll by and they take it out of the trash and give it a new coat of paint.
All we are doing by making these reboots, sequels, remakes, prequels and based on movies hits? Is sending a message to the studios that this is what we want. And is it really? Do we really want a Top Gun way 2 many years 2 late sequel? Do we really want a remake of Flatliners? Do we really want to see another Saw movie? Does anyone really want to see that Baywatch movie came out that just bombed? Or another Friday The 13th reboot? I know I don't.
Or more importantly, do you? And if you don't want to see this? Then don't pay for it. Speak with your wallet. Wait to rent those films on blu ray or dvd. Don't just pay for a ticket just because of name recognition. That is exactly what leads to more reboots, remakes, prequels and sequels and the death of originality in mainstream cinema. Although Blade Runner 2045 was an excellent sequel done with care and passion and Mission Impossible is right on track with the new movie and i love it as MI Fallout is one of my faves of 2018. And A Quiet Place is the start of a fresh new horror franchise.
If you want to support a franchise or a sequel? Support a new one. Like John Wick for example being a fresh new action franchise. To show the studios that you want new franchises, with new characters, new universes and new worlds. Instead of the same ones, refurbished and sold back to you as brand new. Otherwise this nostalgia train isn't going to stop until it rides your memories into the ground.
The franchise is dead already on film! Just let the franchise go already from film Ackroyd, the last film was a complete failure in my view. Time to retire this franchise on film as it's a dead horse on film.
Ghostbusters never needed to be continued in film. They couldn't get a cast reunion together outside the video game and after Harold Ramis died any idea about a third film should have been put to rest. They had plenty of material to work with the franchise in other mediums. It didn't need saving as a film franchise. It left enough of a legacy as a pop culture icon of the 80s to stay as a two film series. The problem is film studios are too greedy for their own good and think that established franchise films coming back hold some kind of guaranteed profit margins based on brand name alone. Nobody is smart enough to look at a brand like Ghostbusters and properly and efficiently determine the best ways to utilize it based on the fanbase and the legacy it holds.
Look at Back to the future as an example of utilizing the brand in ways that don't mess with the legacy it left. They show enormous respect to their fanbase coming out with different merchandise and apparel and media over the years. They know you can't recreate the magic they had so they let the franchise live on through the fans love of the trilogy. Ghostbusters did so well with the video game. They gave their fans something so authentic and respectful to the films that it's such a shame they had to go the route they did for GB2016 in order to bank off its name. I am very thankful the new film flopped at the box-office and how it killed the franchise and sometimes it's better to kill something then let it suffer. This franchise is now like a wounded half-dead animal since the Real GBs ended and nothing else good has came out in the last 25 years with the exception of the 2009 video game and the merchandise and comics by IDW, no movies since then and other games during the years have sucked and Extreme GBs was ok show and this remake flopped at the box-office.
You just can't recapture the same lightning in a bottle like the original as the original focused on a brilliant mature intelligent script and reminded how well crafted it is a supernatural fantasy comedy adventure with horror trimmings, a solid cast of talented comedy actors who are given just enough space to subtly give wit around without undermining the world of the story. Has an edge to it in the original as the original is what i call great filmmaking.
The new version hits some viewers in the face with painfully forced juvenile Sandler (modern Sandler mind you)-esque humor, a poorly written unfunny script, poor pacing and plus no passion but money grab is. Plus none of the edge of the original movie, unlikable characters with no charisma, no personality, all men are assholes in the film, cringe inducing cameos and a lame villain who lacks the menace of Gozer and Viggo. This shows what 80's and 90's comedy did right, and what some modern comedy is doing wrong. Not to mention shooting the logo in the dick as a bad guy which is an insult to the franchise and there is no passion in this remake and just a cash-grab made by Sony. I have a few female friends who thought that 2016 reboot was poorly written, sexist towards men as one of my lady friends said it's an unfunny insult to women with such man hating agenda and well i enjoyed a few of Feig's movies, i felt he was the wrong guy for that project and even he didn't want to do it at first but he had to for the paycheck and he felt out of his comfort zone as R-rated films is what he is good at and not big budget PG-13 films as after this flopped, he should go back to original stuff.
Hollywood needs to focus on making good films and focus on the new franchises like i mentioned. not digging up some old favorite franchises and desperately sucking the dried up blood of the corpses into some focus-group approved poorly written piece of junk. Ghostbusters is best left alone. They should had made Ghostbusters 3 like years ago like in the 90's, and now that Harold Ramis is dead so has Ghostbusters. Studios need to rediscover the spirit that made great series/movies, not keep recyling past glories.
I hope some people here will understand what i am saying as the world has moved on and some franchises need to be dead and left alone only for the memory of the original to be seen/loved/watched by everyone for years to come on what quality filmmaking is all about and that i am right with my truth about why some series should be left alone as some would and not to recycle some past glories as we moved on and need some fresh new things for current film.
This franchise died with Ramis and any other attempt at a live-action film without Ramis's writing is a shitty moneygrab.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 19:29:25 GMT
It is a travesty. Sony are bonkers.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 17, 2019 19:31:34 GMT
I will only watch if the original cast is in it. Just have Egon's child or Oscar join the group or Cgi in Ramis. no,no, no,no.....
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Post by Nora on Jan 17, 2019 21:31:57 GMT
It is a travesty. Sony are bonkers. why? i cant imagine the orignal cast wouldn be included. why wouldnt they. and if they are in a reitman sr is prosucing and reitman jr directing - am in. i really hope they bring Dana back too, though...
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Post by Nora on Jan 17, 2019 21:33:36 GMT
well and here we go so i am offiicialy Super Excited!
Ernie Hudson, who played Winston Zeddemore in the original 1984 movie, confirmed he and co-stars Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray will return for third film Speaking to DailyMailTV NAACP Image Awards Screening, Hudson, 73, said: 'Ivan Reitman is there and everybody is in'
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jan 17, 2019 23:30:24 GMT
As a fan of both the original and the much derided second film, I'm approaching this one with an open mind. With a good script, director and most of the original cast, this could turn out to be good. Here's hoping anyway. I await further details with bated breath.
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Post by egon1982 on Jan 18, 2019 1:26:02 GMT
As a fan of both the original and the much derided second film, I'm approaching this one with an open mind. With a good script, director and most of the original cast, this could turn out to be good. Here's hoping anyway. I await further details with bated breath. What if it becomes a half-assed film then do you think the franchise on film should just die with Ramis?
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jan 18, 2019 2:15:50 GMT
As a fan of both the original and the much derided second film, I'm approaching this one with an open mind. With a good script, director and most of the original cast, this could turn out to be good. Here's hoping anyway. I await further details with bated breath. What if it becomes a half-assed film then do you think the franchise on film should just die with Ramis? Oh, naturally. I'd far rather no further sequels than a bad - or even average - third movie. The only Ghostbusters III I'd ever accept would be one that served as an effective companion piece to the 80s movies. At this stage, I'm going to reserve judgement. As more details come out, I'll adjust my expectations and opinions accordingly. This could be a great thing. It could also be a disaster. But since it looks like this project is really going forward now, I'm going to try to remain tentatively hopeful for now. Only time will tell whether that hopefulness is justified or not.
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Post by egon1982 on Jan 22, 2019 3:39:36 GMT
I'm burnt out on Ghostbusters now on attempts to make new movies after the last film was a slap in the face to me and the franchise.
Deep down inside me, i want there to be another good Ghostbusters film and i don't want this to suck ass or be bad like the last attempt, deep down i want it to be good. But i've been burned, i've been burnt so badly by the 2016 movie and my trust with Sony with this franchise is at an all time low, is there is a reason why i should trust them? well Ivan is producing and his son is directing and the original cast is coming back, yeh! so! tell me again as myself is a die hard fan of the franchise i should be trustworthy, why i should trust and have faith in Sony for Ghostbusters after Stinkbusters (i'm not gonna call 2016's film as Ghostbusters as it doesn't deserve to be called Ghostbusters and what one of my youtube friends called it "Ballbusters"), i don't have any faith in it.
Sure the teaser was a better teaser than Stinkbusters's teaser, but that's not saying much, that's like saying a piece of roadkill is better than a piece of shit that's on the side of the road, both are pretty bad and both suck, maybe a piece of roadkill is better in respects at least you can look at that roadkill and bury it, unlike a piece of shit. At least Roadkill was alive at one point, it had a story and a piece of shit is just a piece of shit! and the purpose it serve of that it's long gone, all that's left is this putrid long time decaying body that never had a soul and never had any life. When you compare one teaser trailer like 2016's film which is just a soulless corporate cash-grab with bad jokes that looks like a trainwreck to another teaser trailer that looks old school teaser style with a little bit of life but it's been ran over already because of the previous film, so technically i still feel it's a dead franchise at this point, Harold Ramis is dead, he's gone and he was the big part of why Ghostbusters was successful as he help wrote the first and second films as he was a big part of the creative process as sure Ackroyd was the brain but Ramis was the soul and heart of the film franchise. as he was even one of the founding members of the team plus he did co-wrote the game.
And if you don't have Egon, it just isn't the same and i feel that out of respect to Harold Ramis whom i admired over the years as a film lover of high standards, you just let it die! let it die with him, what made those two movies special was the creativity and chemistry of Ramis, Dan Aykroyd, Bill Murray and director Ivan Reitman. You CANNOT recreate that same magic without that team, and even more especially without a strong script.. Why do we have to keep doing this? especially soo soon? Stinkbusters came out in 2016 and this is coming in 2020 so almost 40 years later we are getting another film? but in the teaser they had the ecto-one, the original music by Elmer Bernstein, sure it's a nice touch but it screams to me that it's trying to tug into your nostalgic heartstrings that's what it's doing and trying to be manipulative. It's like "oh look, there's the Ecto-1, oh look hey ghostbusters fans, there's the ecto-1 aren't you excited? here's the original music aren't you excited? ooh look we have the proton packs before the coming 2020 logo of the ghostbusters, aren't you excited?". NO i am not! i'm not falling for this shit Sony! OK, i'm not, you busting my balls here, enough i'm not gonna fall for your bullshit. This does in theory sound more promising than the reboot does as it's a sequel to the first 2 but having kids as main heroes in it with the old GBs as mentors? oh god, this is why i'm not looking forward to the new movie. It's a cashgrab to prey on nostalgia. It should rest in peace as a beloved classics and the true GB 3 is the video game.
I mean Ghostbusters was a once in a lifetime thing! you had all these amazing minds, and all these hilarious individual and made something special and unique in a situation and your not trying to capture lightning in a bottle again. I love Ghostbusters 2 as a fun sequel, when you compare it to the first movie it's not the same and doesn't have the same energy as the first one was a risk in production when it came out in pre-production, the studios thought he was crazy when they were doing this movie and thought it would be a failure as the risk paid off on the original as the risks took off and made the studio silenced. For this new movie, it looks like there is no passion behind the camera but a moneygrab to get Stranger Thing's money cashgrab, i didn't even want a Ghosbusters 3 to began with because it's too late, Harold Ramis has passed away, the energy is not gonna be there, the original guys are old and the new characters are not gonna be good in chemistry, humor or getting along like the original cast. I don't think it's a risk worth taking and they should had done the animated movie they were thinking and all. I mean Ghostbusters the game is GB 3 already, we don't need a third film that has kids or teens as main stars as it smells money grab.
The franchise should be left alone on film unless you can do another game or an animated film or animated show for Netflix/Hulu/Amazon but it's passed the time to do a third film, they should had made it 28 years ago while the GBs were still young and would had been worthwhile. The time passed and it's too late, it's too late to do it now, i'm sorry and this is coming from someone who is a fan of the series and a fan of the characters, they were a part of my childhood as i recalled seeing the first one in theaters in it's 85 re-issue when i was 4 years old and watched/taped every episode of the animated series every afternoon as a kid, had toys even the firehouse for christmas when i was 6 and saw part 2 in theaters on my 8th birthday on opening day as i had a GB cake and some toys as well. I also remembered playing the arcade game and the Sega game plus i enjoyed some of the comics and played the video game in 2009 as it was awesome. But i just don't want to see anymore GB films just like i'm a fan of Robocop (both the original and second films) and i don't want to see anymore! ok? let Alex Murphy rest in peace and let him rest in peace already.
Let's move on and try new franchises as i support new franchises like John Wick as it's something different.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 22, 2019 4:13:06 GMT
This new film will be "The Force Awakens" for Ghostbusters in that will be very safe and familiar even though it will be fun and entertaining and Jason Reitman will be the "J.J. Abrams" for Ghostbusters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 5:47:00 GMT
This new film will be "The Force Awakens" for Ghostbusters in that will be very safe and familiar even though it will be fun and entertaining and Jason Reitman will be the "J.J. Abrams" for Ghostbusters. Probably. We will see. It sounds like Sony is putting some money into it, and if they can get Sigourney Weaver, Annie Potts, and Rick Moranis on board, they might able to pull it off despite Harold Ramis not being in it. If it's just Akroyd, Hudson, and Murray, I have a feeling it's going to suck. But you're right, it will be safe with a recycled story line.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 22, 2019 6:27:31 GMT
This new film will be "The Force Awakens" for Ghostbusters in that will be very safe and familiar even though it will be fun and entertaining and Jason Reitman will be the "J.J. Abrams" for Ghostbusters. Probably. We will see. It sounds like Sony is putting some money into it, and if they can get Sigourney Weaver, Annie Potts, and Rick Moranis on board, they might able to pull it off despite Harold Ramis not being in it. If it's just Akroyd, Hudson, and Murray, I have a feeling it's going to suck. But you're right, it will be safe with a recycled story line. Putting money into a film doesn't necessarily mean anything. Ghostbusters II and the 2016 film had money put into it. I don't understand why so many people feel that if you get as many of the original cast members back that the new movie will automatically be great. How is it that their presence alone makes a film great?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 6:34:54 GMT
Probably. We will see. It sounds like Sony is putting some money into it, and if they can get Sigourney Weaver, Annie Potts, and Rick Moranis on board, they might able to pull it off despite Harold Ramis not being in it. If it's just Akroyd, Hudson, and Murray, I have a feeling it's going to suck. But you're right, it will be safe with a recycled story line. I don't understand why so many people feel that if you get as many of the original cast members back that the new movie will automatically be great. How is it that their presence alone makes a film great? The writing would have to be AMAZING for this to be good, but getting the original cast together would make get it nostalgia viewers. I would probably see it for that reason. I saw the original with my mom and brother in the theater.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 22, 2019 6:39:26 GMT
A problem with a franchise like Ghostbusters is you can only go so far with the initial premise before it repeats and recycles itself. It's the same thing for something like Jurassic Park. How many times can you have a group of scientists form a team and fight ghosts and/or some spirit trying to destroy the city before it gets repetitive and tiresome? This is not a franchise that I can see lasting for 5 or 6 sequels before it becomes more of the same.
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