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Post by maya55555 on Jan 16, 2019 20:05:28 GMT
Opinions on Queen Elizabeth's Alchemist?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 16, 2019 20:09:03 GMT
I'm always trying to find out more about him. He played a part in the rise of what later became the British Empire. Maybe his intentions were good, and maybe not.
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Post by general313 on Jan 16, 2019 20:11:22 GMT
Was he anything like Nancy Reagan's astrologer?
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 16, 2019 20:34:03 GMT
cham313
I am not familiar with Regan's astrologer. Interesting.
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 16, 2019 21:15:16 GMT
Opinions on Queen Elizabeth's Alchemist? Of course, he was a complete fake and a charlatan, but the Kabbalistic magical systems folks like him used which evolved into the stuff practiced by the Golden Dawn and later Crowley’s Order of the Silver Stars is pretty deep and fascinating on some levels. Of course, it isn’t “real” magic in the Harry Potter sense; the foreword to the Golden Dawn handbook actually strongly implies all the rituals are just metaphors. As in, the ritual for “Invisibility” doesn’t make it impossible for others to see you, nor should you expect it to. Rather, it is designed to create a spiritual or psychological state. Much more interesting than Dee’s stupid parlor tricks.
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Post by goz on Jan 16, 2019 21:36:22 GMT
Opinions on Queen Elizabeth's Alchemist? Of course, he was a complete fake and a charlatan, but the Kabbalistic magical systems folks like him used which evolved into the stuff practiced by the Golden Dawn and later Crowley’s Order of the Silver Stars is pretty deep and fascinating on some levels. Of course, it isn’t “real” magic in the Harry Potter sense; the foreword to the Golden Dawn handbook actually strongly implies all the rituals are just metaphors. As in, the ritual for “Invisibility” doesn’t make it impossible for others to see you, nor should you expect it to. Rather, it is designed to create a spiritual or psychological state. Much more interesting than Dee’s stupid parlor tricks. I love ' pretty deep and fascinating on some levels ' smoke and mirrors in the morning!
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 16, 2019 21:42:17 GMT
I love ' pretty deep and fascinating on some levels ' smoke and mirrors in the morning! I actually wasn't kidding. The stuff is pretty brilliant, I just don't think it amounts to an effective spiritual or philosophical system. Too obtuse.
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Post by goz on Jan 16, 2019 22:14:33 GMT
I love ' pretty deep and fascinating on some levels ' smoke and mirrors in the morning! I actually wasn't kidding. The stuff is pretty brilliant, I just don't think it amounts to an effective spiritual or philosophical system. Too obtuse. Then, I wasn't kidding. Will have to look into it when I feel 'deeply spiritual'!
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 17, 2019 10:54:55 GMT
I actually wasn't kidding. The stuff is pretty brilliant, I just don't think it amounts to an effective spiritual or philosophical system. Too obtuse. Then, I wasn't kidding. Will have to look into it when I feel 'deeply spiritual'! Just for the record, I'm hardly a "spiritual" person, whatever that is supposed to mean. I just geek out over this kind of stuff. My fascination for this system of interlocked, networked web of metaphors which somehow simultaneously model the functions of the universe while connecting them with the workings of the mind has more in common with my obsession with complicated board games than any religious impulse. If that makes any kind of sense.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 17, 2019 12:43:33 GMT
JOHN DEE felt that he was in contact with Angels, like the prophets of the Old Testament. He tried to glean information from them, to influence the future "British Empire".
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jan 17, 2019 13:07:03 GMT
In canis copore transmuto
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Post by progressiveelement on Jan 17, 2019 13:23:48 GMT
Being English automatically makes him great.
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Post by Catman on Jan 17, 2019 14:09:40 GMT
Catman's favorite alchemist is Edward Elric (though Al is a close second, and Roy Mustang certainly deserves honorable mention).
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 18, 2019 20:59:18 GMT
猫の男
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