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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 9:20:52 GMT
Earlier in Arrow season 7, the series surprised fans by ditching the flashbacks. Instead, Arrow began a new flash-forward storyline that explored the future of Star City. William Clayton, the son of Oliver Queen, reunited with Roy Harper, Dinah Lance, and Zoe Ramirez after the apparent demise of Felicity Smoak. While the mystery of Felicity’s death has been slow to play out, an upcoming episode of Arrow will be devoted exclusively to the future.
Via Comic Book Resources, Arrow showrunner Beth Schwartz confirmed the sixteenth episode will be all flash-forward. She also teased the introduction of another character to the future timeline.
“We’re still going to meet a character in the future,” noted Schwartz. “That’s going to happen at the end of [episode] 12, which will be hopefully very exciting for a lot of people, and then we’re going to have an all-future episode — episode 16 — where we’re going to answer a lot of the questions that we’ve posed in the first half of the season.”
Additionally, Schwartz touched upon the first flash-forward appearance of Rene Ramirez, a.k.a. Wild Dog. Rene made his return in tonight’s episode, “My Name is Emiko Queen,” and he’s not the same man he used to be.
“He’s living the good life in the Glades,” said Schwartz. “We’ll get to see how the Glades are completely different from Star City. It’s full of wealth. It’s clean. There’s no crime. And Rene has a big part of why the Glades is like that, so we’ll get to that as well as his dynamic with his daughter Zoe, who has been helping Dinah fight crime in Star City secretly.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 12:46:58 GMT
Wow. That is interesting. I wonder if these rumours about Oliver being killed off in the next big crossover event turn out to be true they will move the show over to the flash forward storyline full time and they are setting that up by introducing all the new characters this season. I don't think anything has ever been done like that in a show before so it will be interesting if they were to do it and they could make William the Green Arrow and Katherine McNamara a Season Regular. What are your thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 14:06:17 GMT
Im all for it, I dig the flash-forwards. Hopefully Felicity stays dead in them. Ding dong the witch is dead! Perhaps theyll have Dstroke's son in the flash-forwards? Although I need to catch up on Arrow, last one I watched was the crossover episode
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jan 22, 2019 20:17:26 GMT
Wow. That is interesting. I wonder if these rumours about Oliver being killed off in the next big crossover event turn out to be true they will move the show over to the flash forward storyline full time and they are setting that up by introducing all the new characters this season. I don't think anything has ever been done like that in a show before so it will be interesting if they were to do it and they could make William the Green Arrow and Katherine McNamara a Season Regular. What are your thoughts? I wouldn't care for that. I'm having a hard time liking the flash forwards as it is, because it's hard to know where it's going; I mean, what's the point? Not just what the story in the future is leading to, but what's the point of anything happening during the present day if this is where it leads? It's so fucking bleak and depressing, it pretty much says that everything going on in the present day will be a colossal failure and little to no good will come of it. The only saving grace would be for something in the present day to change and completely erase the future storyline; which depending on how they did it, could make the flash forwards even more pointless. And I kind of fee like other shows have tried killing off the main character then doing a soft reboot where the show carries on without them and it not working well; I just can't think of specific examples. I mean, if you want to be technical, it's worked well enough killing off Rosanne and spinning-off The Conners. They sort of did that with Earth Final Conflict, for who knows what reason the main protagonist for any length of time would seem to get killed off and someone else who had been a central adjacent character would become the main focus for a time, but I can't really say that worked well at all; and it just got weird and nonsensical after a while. It would also make it harder for them to do crossovers if Arrow were always set years ahead of everything.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 22, 2019 23:13:31 GMT
So far I have mostly hated the flash forward segments. Now I completely tune out whenever they come on.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jan 23, 2019 20:06:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 23:50:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 12:35:07 GMT
Im all for it, I dig the flash-forwards. Hopefully Felicity stays dead in them. Ding dong the witch is dead! Perhaps theyll have Dstroke's son in the flash-forwards? Although I need to catch up on Arrow, last one I watched was the crossover episode You must have seen the latest news 'cause it was recently confirmed Deathstroke's son is coming back this season in the future flashes but one strange thing I heard about today is Deathstroke's son is also going to be in the second season of 'Titans' so we are going to have two different versions of the character at the same time but sadly neither show can use the original Deathstroke 'cause Warner Bros 'might' have plans for him and he is not confirmed to be appearing in any movie. 'Titans' Season 2 Casting Call Teases Deathstroke's Soncomicbook.com/dc/2019/01/24/titans-dc-universe-characters-season-2-jericho-deathstroke-son/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 12:41:07 GMT
Wow. That is interesting. I wonder if these rumours about Oliver being killed off in the next big crossover event turn out to be true they will move the show over to the flash forward storyline full time and they are setting that up by introducing all the new characters this season. I don't think anything has ever been done like that in a show before so it will be interesting if they were to do it and they could make William the Green Arrow and Katherine McNamara a Season Regular. What are your thoughts? I wouldn't care for that. I'm having a hard time liking the flash forwards as it is, because it's hard to know where it's going; I mean, what's the point? Not just what the story in the future is leading to, but what's the point of anything happening during the present day if this is where it leads? It's so fucking bleak and depressing, it pretty much says that everything going on in the present day will be a colossal failure and little to no good will come of it. The only saving grace would be for something in the present day to change and completely erase the future storyline; which depending on how they did it, could make the flash forwards even more pointless. And I kind of fee like other shows have tried killing off the main character then doing a soft reboot where the show carries on without them and it not working well; I just can't think of specific examples. I mean, if you want to be technical, it's worked well enough killing off Rosanne and spinning-off The Conners. They sort of did that with Earth Final Conflict, for who knows what reason the main protagonist for any length of time would seem to get killed off and someone else who had been a central adjacent character would become the main focus for a time, but I can't really say that worked well at all; and it just got weird and nonsensical after a while. It would also make it harder for them to do crossovers if Arrow were always set years ahead of everything. I will watch it if Katherine McNamara is upgraded to being one of the main stars. She is very nice looking and I would watch almost anything she appeared in unless it was really bad but if they go through with killing off Oliver it is possible they might have the grown up version of William and Katherine's character go back to the present and they will have the younger version of Roy return to the show as a Season Regular too. I think if Oliver gets killed off they will most likely get rid of Felicity too which could be a win for all of us. showing how bleak Star City is in the future kinda does take away from all the things they are doing now but you have to really wonder what happened to make things that bad and that is probably the big question we are going to get answers to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 12:49:52 GMT
Im all for it, I dig the flash-forwards. Hopefully Felicity stays dead in them. Ding dong the witch is dead! Perhaps theyll have Dstroke's son in the flash-forwards? Although I need to catch up on Arrow, last one I watched was the crossover episode You must have seen the latest news 'cause it was recently confirmed Deathstroke's son is coming back this season in the future flashes but one strange thing I heard about today is Deathstroke's son is also going to be in the second season of 'Titans' so we are going to have two different versions of the character at the same time but sadly neither show can use the original Deathstroke 'cause Warner Bros 'might' have plans for him and he is not confirmed to be appearing in any movie. 'Titans' Season 2 Casting Call Teases Deathstroke's Soncomicbook.com/dc/2019/01/24/titans-dc-universe-characters-season-2-jericho-deathstroke-son/Nah it was just a guess, considering Wild Dog's daughter is in them, similarly with Ollie's son. Although I wonder if the Legends future Arrow ep is connected to this at all? There was another son of Deathstroke and he ruled the city and Diggle's son was the Green Arrow. Probably just an alternate timeline or just a different point in time in the future?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jan 24, 2019 13:47:01 GMT
I'm not overly thrilled with adult William. He seemed okay at first, but as the season has gone on, I don't care for him; and he really doesn't strike me as what you'd expect a son of Oliver Queen to be. I don't think he looks enough like him; and he seems kind of wimpy, especially in contrast to the heroism the younger version showed rather effectively last year when he helped evacuate the busy with his classmates. I think in the grander scheme of things too is the fact that Oliver's son is the pasty white boy "William" in the first place; and not Conner Hawke; especially if they're going to make him Oliver's successor. I get it, it's too late at this point; and they've already screwed the pooch by having Diggle's son inexplicably use that name in an alternate timeline, but it still annoys me.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 24, 2019 15:08:32 GMT
Does anyone think they may be trying to do a spin off series set in the future featuring the grown up kids we have seen in the flash forward segments?
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Post by dazz on Jan 26, 2019 8:29:36 GMT
Possibly just too bad none of the actors minus Katherine McNamera have close to what I think could count to be a lead even in a CW show, and the chemistry/dynamic of the flash forwards cast or setting is all that enticing to overlook a lack of lead potential, if it did or they did Arrow would be killing it in the ratings as they would have double the star power but they aren't because they don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 9:36:46 GMT
Well we all know the CW doesnt need as much ratings as other networks, so if they do decide to move forward with a future Arrow show then it could be successful in their terms. It's funny really, look at Supergirl, it was canceled over at CBS but seems to be doing fine on the CW.
Btw I dont watch Supergirl, although I have sampled a few select episodes here and there, but has anyone noticed a difference in quality between the two networks?
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Post by General Kenobi on Jan 26, 2019 14:23:10 GMT
I didn't notice any difference in Supergirl when she switched networks. But then I am sometimes not as aware as other people, so what do I know?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:42:46 GMT
You must have seen the latest news 'cause it was recently confirmed Deathstroke's son is coming back this season in the future flashes but one strange thing I heard about today is Deathstroke's son is also going to be in the second season of 'Titans' so we are going to have two different versions of the character at the same time but sadly neither show can use the original Deathstroke 'cause Warner Bros 'might' have plans for him and he is not confirmed to be appearing in any movie. 'Titans' Season 2 Casting Call Teases Deathstroke's Soncomicbook.com/dc/2019/01/24/titans-dc-universe-characters-season-2-jericho-deathstroke-son/ Nah it was just a guess, considering Wild Dog's daughter is in them, similarly with Ollie's son. Although I wonder if the Legends future Arrow ep is connected to this at all? There was another son of Deathstroke and he ruled the city and Diggle's son was the Green Arrow. Probably just an alternate timeline or just a different point in time in the future? I can't say but I am pretty sure the 'Legends of Tomorrow' episode will remain an alternate timeline but they are just bringing some characters back from that and it will be similar in some ways but different in others. I mean judging what we have seen in the future flashes the future is definitely different than the future we saw in the 'Legends' episode but that doesn't mean some things can't be the same like Diggle's son becoming Conner Hawke and Slade's son becoming the next Deathstroke. I would love to see them bring in Cissie King-Jones as Arrowette 'cause she should exist in the future and maybe I missed it but has the whereabouts of Team Flash been talked about by any of the characters in the future 'cause I find it weird if they haven't been.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:52:35 GMT
I'm not overly thrilled with adult William. He seemed okay at first, but as the season has gone on, I don't care for him; and he really doesn't strike me as what you'd expect a son of Oliver Queen to be. I don't think he looks enough like him; and he seems kind of wimpy, especially in contrast to the heroism the younger version showed rather effectively last year when he helped evacuate the busy with his classmates. I think in the grander scheme of things too is the fact that Oliver's son is the pasty white boy "William" in the first place; and not Conner Hawke; especially if they're going to make him Oliver's successor. I get it, it's too late at this point; and they've already screwed the pooch by having Diggle's son inexplicably use that name in an alternate timeline, but it still annoys me. It seems you aren't alone stargazer and I have seen a lot of people say on comment sections of articles they don't like William and I don't think the character is popular enough to kill Oliver off and start a spinoff show about him unless they plan on bringing in some other characters as the focus. taylorfirst1 has brought up how many fans feel about the future flashes on a few threads on here and I think they would have better chances with a Arsenal solo spinoff show if they killed off William but if Stephen Amell is really leaving I believe the best thing they can do is end the show and replace it with a new DC show like Martian Manhunter but I am really starting to think Oliver isn't going to be killed off and it will be another superhero - most likely one of the Legends who gets killed off in the next crossover episode instead 'cause him being killed off is too obvious at the moment this far off the crossover and I can't see the writers going ahead without Stephen Amell. Like you and Dazz I think the future we are seeing won't come true. The Renee becoming a villain part makes me doubt it too 'cause that makes no sense at all with him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:56:43 GMT
I didn't notice any difference in Supergirl when she switched networks. But then I am sometimes not as aware as other people, so what do I know? The only differences were Cat Grant, Lucy Lane and Maxwell Lord left and Lena Luthor joined the show.
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Post by General Kenobi on Feb 17, 2019 13:56:14 GMT
Oh. I was thinking tone of the show and not cast. But yeah. The cast did change when networks were changed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 9:56:56 GMT
Nah it was just a guess, considering Wild Dog's daughter is in them, similarly with Ollie's son. Although I wonder if the Legends future Arrow ep is connected to this at all? There was another son of Deathstroke and he ruled the city and Diggle's son was the Green Arrow. Probably just an alternate timeline or just a different point in time in the future? I can't say but I am pretty sure the 'Legends of Tomorrow' episode will remain an alternate timeline but they are just bringing some characters back from that and it will be similar in some ways but different in others. I mean judging what we have seen in the future flashes the future is definitely different than the future we saw in the 'Legends' episode but that doesn't mean some things can't be the same like Diggle's son becoming Conner Hawke and Slade's son becoming the next Deathstroke. I would love to see them bring in Cissie King-Jones as Arrowette 'cause she should exist in the future and maybe I missed it but has the whereabouts of Team Flash been talked about by any of the characters in the future 'cause I find it weird if they haven't been. No the flash team hasnt been mentioned but Im a little behind with Arrow
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